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Im designing a ski-school video just for fun... Help!

post #1 of 6
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I was thinking of the following consept:

1. Basic elements:
-Balance
-Weighting
-Rhythm
-Edging

2. Beginner and intermediate level:
-Wedge turn
-Stem turn
-Parallel turn
-Short turn

3. Advanced level:
-Carving
-Racing
-Moguls
-Off-Piste

What do you think a ski-demo video should deffinetly include? Feel free to edit my basic structure anyway you want. I have some stuff taped on film and would like to edit it according to 2006 epic standards. Even if my demos are crappy if the principles were right it could serve as an outline for better future demos.

Any input here greatly appreciated.

reg Tom
post #2 of 6
Tom,

What's the purpose of the video? Train rookies, reference for demos, teaching ideas for everyone, etc.?
post #3 of 6
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Originally Posted by therusty
Tom,

What's the purpose of the video? Train rookies, reference for demos, teaching ideas for everyone, etc.?
Ref. for demos. I would like to be able to demo the basic skills needed from wedge to powder.
post #4 of 6
Tom,

You still teaching STEM turns? We make a distinct difference between stem and christy turns. Could be just semantics to you though.

I'd include dmeo shots both approaching and going away so that viewers can see the difference.

I'd also make a point of highlighting the basic skill elements shown in each demo.

For extra credit, I'd show demonstrating poor form on purpose and over emphasis of corrective movements as opposed to not over emphasizing in order to show the value of over emphasis to students.

If your demos are that crappy, save them. Comparison to good demos could be the best part of the video.
post #5 of 6
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by therusty
Tom,

You still teaching STEM turns? We make a distinct difference between stem and christy turns. Could be just semantics to you though.

I'd include dmeo shots both approaching and going away so that viewers can see the difference.

I'd also make a point of highlighting the basic skill elements shown in each demo.

For extra credit, I'd show demonstrating poor form on purpose and over emphasis of corrective movements as opposed to not over emphasizing in order to show the value of over emphasis to students.

If your demos are that crappy, save them. Comparison to good demos could be the best part of the video.
Thanks for your input here. You are mentioning a lot of important stuff and some of it that I have planned myselfe. The biggest problem I have is making a good structure for the video. My latest plan is to give demos insted of trying to teach skiers how to ski. Sort of raise the issue and make people interested. Since Im not going to do any talking there is not much room for explanations as well since its tiring to watch text on tv. Anyway, big books have been written about skiing and Im not going to try and make a 2 hours long film with mostly small text on a screen. No, I need a plan....

How about this:

1. Basic elements of skiing:
- Balansing moovements
- Edging moovements
- Rotary moovements
- Pressure moovements

2. Beginner and intermediate level:
- Wedge turn
- Stem turn
- Parallel turn
- Short turn

3. Advanced level:
- Carving
- Racing
- Moguls
- Off-Piste

Lets discuss what kind of demos fit into the structure:

1. Basic elements of skiing (core consept):
Here in this chapter I would just mention the core consepts and then show a short 10 sec. demo.

- Balansing moovements
Dont really know how to demo this....

- Edging moovements
Demo of me making a turn with heavily applied edging.

- Rotary moovements
I dont like rotary moovements.... I turn by shifting weight or tip my skis. However, skidded turns can sometimes be put into motion by rotary moovements. I use something I call the pre turn but most of the problems I have encountered at all levels are comming from rotation. It makes skis skidd and prevents students from advancing.

- Pressure moovements
Demo could be me sinking down on the skis while making a turn. Showing applied pressure, like on a high speed carving demo.

2. Beginner and intermediate level:
Here I would give a short demo of how to perform a wedge-turn and then demo the stem and the parallel turn to show how they all originate at the wedge. You did not like the word "stem-turn". Should that be "stem-christie" or just christie? When I come into a turn with parallel skis I bring the uphill ski out to form a small wedge (we call that stem) and then bring the inside ski parallel shortly after we have progressed into the turn far enough to feel confident with parallel skis. You mentioned making demos of false technique and thats what I have taped as well so that could also be included here in this chapter.

- Wedge turn
Just a simple wedge turn.

- Stem turn
Open and closed position.

- Parallel turn
Open and closed position.

- Short turn
Demo of me making short turns.

I would round this chapter off with a demo of all 3 basic turns in a nice linked progression.

3. Advanced level:
Same consept as chapter 3.

- Carving
Carving demos. Maybe here should be explained the difference between carving and scarving and just basic turning.

- Racing
Racing demo of me in the gates. Just to show how to ski gates.

- Moguls
Here I have a lot of material of where to turn and how to turn. Only a short demo of me in the bumps though.

- Off-Piste
A demo of me skiing powder.

Anything else comes to mind I would much appreciate all the input I can get.

reg

Tom
post #6 of 6
Tom,

The PSIA "Visual Cues" provide a lot of the answers you are looking for. Unfortunately, the online info they have is for members only. You might try seeking if they will give you an international courtesy log in or you might want to order their "visual cues" laminated cards (aka the Movement Analysis pocket guide) for $5.50.

For demonstrating balancing movements, a couple of points to mention would include flexing of the ankles and movement of the center of mass into the new turn as a means to help maintain balance.

Your discussions on rotary could demonstrate the use of counter and femurs turning in the hip sockets vs the hips turning.
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