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Mad Trix Mojo vs Volkl V-pro

post #1 of 26
Thread Starter 
My lovely wife is considering a new ski for next year.

She currently skis on the Volkl G4 (178). After trying out my Pocket Rockets she feels she needs a twin tip to keep up with me since I kick her ass when I'm on my PR's and she's on her G4's.

Here is what is on the table;
The Volkl Vpro's - 170(20.2m) 113-83-105
Mad Trix Mojo - 176(22.4m) 125-90-118

Finding either of these skis to demo is like finding a grain of salt in a snow storm.

I couldn't find any reviews on the Mojo. Are they that new? The guys at Snowcovers rave about them. Its a popular ski with the ski patrol as well.

Does anyone have an opinion on either of these skis?
post #2 of 26
Quote:
Originally posted by LeeL:

Mad Trix Mojo - 176(22.4m) 125-90-118
I saw a review of this ski in an English mag last December. I cn't find the mag at the moment. I think it came top overall and top in nearly all categories (100% park 100% Off piste) in it's class.
I seriously thought about buying it as my only ski but didn't buy any at all due to lack of skiing time.

If I find the reveiw I'll post it.
post #3 of 26
Another ski to think of for your wife might be the K2 Phat Luv. My girlfriend skied these for a few days this season and absolutely loved them as a powder/crud ski. She has also skied the Mad Trix Mojo but preferred the Phat Luv because she is light (105lb) and thought the ladies specific flex of the K2 suited her better. However if you're wife is skiing G4's in 178 I am sure she would not find the Heads too stiff.

My personal experience on the Head's are that they are aimed at almost exactly the same market, terrain and snow conditions as the PR's, but cater for those that prefer a stiffer, and in my opinion far more versatile powder ski. I found the Head's a lot more stable and powerful than the PR's. BTW i skied these in a 176 - 165lb 6". I think my g/f's were ~164

As for finding some to demo, I can't help you there, my g/f and I both skied on Mojo's owned by friends of ours. Although I heard that there is a shop at Squaw that demos them, I can't give you exact details.

Cheers
Julian
post #4 of 26
Why not just got her the PRs if she likes those?

Also, consider the V-Karma.
post #5 of 26
Thread Starter 
thanks for feedback all.

She tried the Heads in 186 and they're a lot of ski. Too much ski for her it turned out so i ended up on the skis most of the day in shin-deep; boot top deep powder and then also in cut up powder. I tried them on some groomers.

Most of these observations are relative to 185 Pocket Rockets mounted centre.

- DO NOT sit on the tails; they're a lot of ski and will punish you

- They like long, big fast turns. Little hippety hoppety powder 8 turns are fine but that's not where they shine; let these pigs run fast and they come alive.

- They're ok in medium turns but see above...

- They're fast skis;

- Hold on to your hat in groomers; did i mention they're fast?

- Not as quick turning as PR's in tight trees.
post #6 of 26
LeeL do you think the Mojos would be more versatile in the 166 and 176?

I am looking to get some powder skis for me and my wife.

We both like stiff skis so I am worried that we may thing the PRs are too soft and wobbly.

I would probably put my wife in 166s and me in 176s.
post #7 of 26
I own both the PRs and the V-Pros. The PR has better float and a livelier feel to them. The PR has a vastly softer tip which is enhanced by the reverse camber in the forward tip. The rest of the PRs feel about as stiff as the V-Pros.

The V-Pros have a more even flex through out. They are 83mm underfoot like the G4s but have a little straighter sidecut. Because they are softer than the G4s they end up being quicker and easier to turn. They are a very damp ski. They are also a very forgiving ski. They suck on ice (as does the PRs) but for most Western skiers they are a better choice I think than the G4s.

The V-Pro is not as good in deep powder as the PR. On the other hand, it is one of the best slush skis I've ever been on. It is also great in heavy crud. They will handle high speeds in powder, crud and slush but not mach speeds.

I love my V-Pros because they don't get me in trouble skiing off-piste. They don't punish you for getting your weight back or for plowing into a mogul. I hesitate to recommend them to anyone though unless that person likes a very damp ski.
post #8 of 26
Check also over at Powdermag Message Board, the Mojos, PRs and V-Pros have been revied and evaluated widely over there under 'Tech Talk' ( www.powdermag.com , click on Message Board and use search function) and try at TGR, too.
post #9 of 26
Thanks PowHog

I read a few threads and then slowly got disgusted by how they speak to each other there.

Saying that the PRs are Pussssssssssssssss skis doesn't help me make a decision.

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post #10 of 26
Thread Starter 
OK here's a thread on powdermag about the Mad trix mojo that's semi useful

http://forum.powdermag.com/cgi-bin/u...c;f=2;t=002763

Scalce i only tried the 186s. We're trying to get our hands on 176s so we can try them and I'll let you know what I think.

I personally like my big blue noodle but I like softer mellow skis. While my wife will be on Supersport 5stars, I'm on Supercross's for example. Even my tele skis are noodles. But then look at my home mountain.

I'll say this much; I can't stand her G4s and am amazed that she stuck out for one season using those as a powder ski; but she picked those skis; not I. I liked the Head's but I like my PR's better.

If you like stiff skis' you'll probably like the Heads. I made about 3 gs turns down some shin deep cut up pow at pretty good speed and they were pretty stable.
post #11 of 26
Coming off R11s and currently on Metron XI's I am kind of nervouse of getting PRs without skiing on them.

I skied on Salomon Hots in a 165 and thought those were soft as hell.

I am thinking maybe Xtra Hots in a 175 would be good for me since I weigh 180 and ski pretty hard.

Were the Mojos center mounted or slightly back?
post #12 of 26
Thread Starter 
The Mojos were center mounted. We'll get them mounted back as she won't be doing any park or big air. I've got my PR's center - mounted; didn't even think about it really but I get more air then she does. Will it help if I tell you that Im 170lbs, aggressive as all hell on skis to the point that i bend sx-11s and that I straightline stuff on the PRs all the time?


Quote:
Originally posted by Scalce:
Coming off R11s and currently on Metron XI's I am kind of nervouse of getting PRs without skiing on them.

I skied on Salomon Hots in a 165 and thought those were soft as hell.

I am thinking maybe Xtra Hots in a 175 would be good for me since I weigh 180 and ski pretty hard.

Were the Mojos center mounted or slightly back?
post #13 of 26
You also have 185s which I won't even touch.

I wonder how the 175s handle the weight.
post #14 of 26
Thread Starter 
scalce - how heavy are you? The 185s ski really short and I can really move them around in the air or in tight trees. They're pretty turny
post #15 of 26
I'm 5'7", 180#, and ski pretty hard but am used to short stiff skis.
post #16 of 26
they were mounted back.

I might have a chance to demo the new volkl Karma on Saturday!

I'm also trying to line up a 176 Mojo.
post #17 of 26
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Originally posted by Scalce:


I read a few threads and then slowly got disgusted by how they speak to each other there.


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Well, that's the 'Hard Core Rider's' talk over there.

But agreed, it takes some endurance to filter all that crap and save the raisins. Bu no matter what bottom line on all twin tips is mounting them 2-3 cm back from boot center - depending on ski length - especially for backcountry use. Did it on my own too and works well.
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post #18 of 26
I was looking at getting the Mojos in 176 for what powder I can find in the trees out here in the East, but this thread makes it seem that 175 PRs would be a better choice. Obviously the Mojos are stiffer (and seemingly more versatile), but the stiffenss preference aside, which would you recommend for the above scenario?

As an aside, the Mojos are flat, right? My new (maybe...) local ski shop told me that they had the MadTrix plate on them which I am pretty d*mn sure is wrong. I have a pair of Marker Free bindings waiting for a powder ski (most likely the Mojos) and the ski shop guys' comments confused me a little.
post #19 of 26
All the Mojos I have ever seen are flat.
post #20 of 26
Not sure for this years(2004) series, but for a year or two the madtrix was flat and the madtrix mojo had the plate to flip from center mount(park) to rear mount(big mtn) settings.
post #21 of 26
Sounds like the plate isn't a bad idea.

What binding was it predrilled for?
post #22 of 26
Integrated Tyrolia binding (I think), only checked one briefly in the store one day.
post #23 of 26
I haven't see one with the plate in a while. Skiershop has a zillin Mojos. I'll bet they'd give ya a deal.
post #24 of 26
They have them on the website for $579 without a binding.

I can get them for $499 at Ski Stop in Westwood, MA.

I guess I should call to see if they have deals.
post #25 of 26
All the pics I saw of Mojos were without a plate - I don't know about a ski shop that doesn't know the brands they sell - I guess I should probably find another shop that knows their gear...
post #26 of 26
stay away from that switchable plate, it weighs a ton and doesn't stand up to continued use.
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