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Lengthening Oakley Goggle Straps for Helmets

post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 
This question came up in my HI Yellow vs. HI Persimmon thread.

Sick of Oakley's stupid too-short, "pretzel" style strap configuration?

I bought their supposedly helmet-compatible Crowbars and couldn't get them wrapped around my XL Leedom Prophet. AFAIK, Oakley doesn't sell a longer strap nor a strap extension for this goggle.

So, using a $5 Smith Universal Helmet Helper (strap extension) and a small flat bladed screwdriver, I solved my problem.

(I took the opportunity to play around with Photoshop so if the pictures are unclear, well... maybe I'll spruce them up later.)



Use the screwdriver to release the strap anchor from the frame. Stick it between the goggle frame and small black tab. Lightly twist, so the small black tab is pressed towards the strap fabric.



While twisting from the above step, press forward. The strap anchor will release to the front of the frame.



Pull the anchor (still attached to the strap) back through the slot in the goggle. You'll notice the slot is a little wider towards the bottom, and the carrier will slide through easily if you tilt it forward 90°.



Now pull the anchor through the plastic strap "loops" to un-knot the pretzel. The goal here is to get the two straps separated.



Re-weave the strap as shown (again by leading with the strap anchor). Note how the strap wraps back to the outside. The sticky white underside is exposed.



Pull the strap anchor back through the slot in the goggle frame.



Connect the Smith strap extension to join the two halves.



Close-up of how the strap is looped back on itself, with the white sticky side exposed.



This gets enough length to comfortably fit a larger helmet.
post #2 of 20
Nice! Thanks for posting!
post #3 of 20
Um, the Oakley helmet strap I put on my A-Frames seemed to work just fine (without all the labor)...
post #4 of 20
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Originally Posted by typ993
Um, the Oakley helmet strap I put on my A-Frames seemed to work just fine (without all the labor)...
This is for Crowbar goggles. There is no alternate helmet strap available. Oakley, in their infinite wisdom, has given us a strap short enough to make your eyes bulge if you happen to have a normal size human head.

Did you find that the A frame strap was longer than the original? I had heard that it was not, that the only difference as the rubber backing and more helmet capatable attachment points.
post #5 of 20
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisInSeattle
This is for Crowbar goggles. There is no alternate helmet strap available. Oakley, in their infinite wisdom, has given us a strap short enough to make your eyes bulge if you happen to have a normal size human head.
Just to add that I had a similar experience with their O-Frame goggles. The way the O-Frame strap is anchored to the frame isn't the same as the Crowbar, but the "pretzel" is, and this method ought to be applicable if somebody wishes for a longer strap.
post #6 of 20
I've had the same problem with the A-frames and their insanely stupid helmet strap kit. The Oakley kit just seemed to move the mounting points for the strap farther away from your face to compensate for the added layer of a helmet, but didn't had much if any length. I bought the Smith helmet adapters also, I just haven't installed them...thanks for posting!
post #7 of 20
I also bought the A-Frames and Helmet addapter. Thought such a 'prestegious' company had to have one that got by inspection; they are way too much in facial presure . Sent 'um in with a note about measurement, to a nothing response.My waist of time and $$. THank you for sharing. Where is a good place to call for a smith adapter??
post #8 of 20
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Noah
Where is a good place to call for a smith adapter??
Hit or miss, but a handful of my local shops have a some in stock. Google "Smith Universal Helmet Helper" (or follow the link I included in the original post) and you'll come up with a few online results.
post #9 of 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by Noah
I also bought the A-Frames and Helmet addapter. Thought such a 'prestegious' company had to have one that got by inspection; they are way too much in facial presure . Sent 'um in with a note about measurement, to a nothing response.My waist of time and $$. THank you for sharing. Where is a good place to call for a smith adapter??
I bought one from backcountry.com, but I don't see them there anymore. End of season sell out, I guess. Darn, I should have ordered 2.
post #10 of 20
Had the same problem with the A-Frames. I removed the strap and pre-stretched it for a couple of weeks on my bench. Works OK now, but wish I had know about the "helper"! Thanks for posting!
post #11 of 20
using the helmet strap, I just cut the 2 plastic loops off the strap in the middle and cut the stitching away. Then just ran it through the sewing machine to put the 2 ends together. I don't need the adjustablilty and it got rid of some of the extra bulk of that strap..

DC
post #12 of 20
but then again how many guys know their way around a sewing machine. I might be strange in that area..
post #13 of 20
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Originally Posted by dchan
using the helmet strap, I just cut the 2 plastic loops off the strap in the middle and cut the stitching away. Then just ran it through the sewing machine to put the 2 ends together. I don't need the adjustablilty and it got rid of some of the extra bulk of that strap..

DC
Yeah, but then you don't have the big "SMITH" logo in the back to tell the world how brain dead the "Oakley Goggle Strap Design Team" is.
post #14 of 20
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Originally Posted by ChrisInSeattle
Yeah, but then you don't have the big "SMITH" logo in the back to tell the world how brain dead the "Oakley Goggle Strap Design Team" is.


If I had my preference, I would not have huge logo's on any my ski wear.

Small inconspicious logos would be so much more enjoyable to me..

But that's just me..
post #15 of 20
Yet another source of Oakley frustration. I ordered a helmet strap for my A frames (I'm giving up on the crowbars, and I'm going to decide between the A Frames and the Wisdoms I already have). Anyway, I got the strap, but I can't figure out how to get the old strap out. Well, I'm not sure if there's some trick besides applying large amounts of force. I thought I'd ask before I started yanking hard on things.
post #16 of 20
check your local motorcycle store for the helmet extenders. I saw lots at my dealer just yesterday.

Also don't forget to price shop for goggles at Motorcycle stores. They had Oakley at 25% off. As you may know that almost never happens with Oakley.
post #17 of 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisInSeattle
Yet another source of Oakley frustration. I ordered a helmet strap for my A frames (I'm giving up on the crowbars, and I'm going to decide between the A Frames and the Wisdoms I already have). Anyway, I got the strap, but I can't figure out how to get the old strap out. Well, I'm not sure if there's some trick besides applying large amounts of force. I thought I'd ask before I started yanking hard on things.
Hold the 'google' firmly with one hand, possibly against your thigh or atop a counter, grasp the plastic of the sprap to google attacher, push down with a touch of effort, then pry/pull the top out. It'll come. Then lift the remainder.
post #18 of 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisInSeattle
Yet another source of Oakley frustration. I ordered a helmet strap for my A frames (I'm giving up on the crowbars, and I'm going to decide between the A Frames and the Wisdoms I already have). Anyway, I got the strap, but I can't figure out how to get the old strap out. Well, I'm not sure if there's some trick besides applying large amounts of force. I thought I'd ask before I started yanking hard on things.
Yeah it takes a pretty good amount of force.
post #19 of 20
Heat the goggle with a blowdryer before removing the old strap. It will soften the plastic.
post #20 of 20
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Noah View Post
Where is a good place to call for a smith adapter??
Hey, just to revive an old thread...

The supply of these Smith helmet helpers dried up about the time I posted this last year, but I ordered & received a pair from REI online, and I see that Backcountry.com and Porters up in Tahoe (website) have 'em as well. So they're out there.

BTW, even the overpriced Oakley shop at Northstar was worthless : in helping me find a solution for lengthening this Crowbar strap.
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