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Atomic boots too tight?

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 
I bought new boots today, Atomic 10.50 Ti and went with fairly small size, not wanting to buy too big a boot. My foot messures 28.5, and I bought a 28. This is normal, but atomics seem to run small. Shell sizing left little more than 1 finger behind my heel- a maglite would not fit.

I also tried the size 29 - the small end of my maglite just fit in there (about .5 in), but I couldn't see buying a boot in a size bigger than what my foot measures.

After I brought the size 28 home (and it cooled down a lot in the car), I found the boot extreamly difficult to put on and take off. The toes, which are slightly bent, firmly touch the front, but the pressure is less when I lean forward. The bending of my toes is probably no more than normal. If you look, toes are always a little bent. It is when I try to flatten them that I am uncomfortable.

How much will these specific boots pack out in length? A close inspection of the liner looked like it had a fairly stiff toe box, one than would not stretch.

I know some of you out there ski this boot, what size is your foot, and what size did you buy? Can you explain your toe room and on/off difficulties?
post #2 of 13
i had a tight boot fit when i got mine.. but my feet are wide.. you can ask the guys at the shop to stretch it for you.. i'm sure if you talk to the shop they'd be happy to do something for you.

BTW i didnt have atomics

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ March 09, 2002 08:02 PM: Message edited 1 time, by smokey ]</font>
post #3 of 13
i got a pair of atomic beta lite 7's (not sure how they relate to your 10.50's) last year, and had the same concerns with the toes hitting the front. the first couple of times i skied i had some minor pain in my little toe on both feet, and i still need to make sure to keep my toenails trimmed short when skiing (prolly a good idea anyhow. ), but the liner's packed out considerably. they fit my feet perfectly now.
post #4 of 13
They will pack out a good deal. Don't sweat it. After a year I bought a conformable foam liner and I really like the boots.
post #5 of 13
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the replies. I am still curious about what size others are wearing compared to their measured foot size. What kind of space do you have when shell sizing?

One more thing, after sitting in the boots for about 20 min, I lose some feeling on the inside and bottom of my big toe ( the area next to the second toe). This only happens on my right foot, which is just lightly bigger than my left.

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ March 10, 2002 08:17 AM: Message edited 1 time, by biker ]</font>
post #6 of 13
Really, what are you asking? If you think you should have had a competent boot fitter size you properly? Are you blaming the boots since they don't fit your feet?

Mondo point is only an approximate sizing system, where the manufacturer will use the measured shell and label it to the closest mondo size. US or Euro size is then converted from the mondo. If you went to a boot fitter, they could have confirmed your size, and then determined if it was possible to alter the shell and liner so that your foot would fit comfortably.

My foot measures 28cm, but I use a 27 shell. My boot and liner is the team model. The liner is very thin to compensate for the thicker plastic of the shell. I still had to punch the heel pocket a bit wider so that my foot sits as far back as possible. I also had to punch for width at the forefoot area. No additional length was needed for toe room. I don't have room for more than 1 finger, but I was going for a performance fit, not comfort (though they are comfortable enough so that I can wear the boots from early morning until well into aprez time). The Atomic boots take and hold punches very well, and most competent fitters should be able to give you a good fit if you have the correct size to start with. Use an orthotic which holds you foot in a neutral possition. If your arch collapses, you forefoot will spread, causing preasure on the sides. I don't know of any fitters in Cheeseland, USA, but maybe someone else can give you that info. Maybe you need to take a trip to a major ski area and have the boots looked at there by a good fitter if there is nothing close to your home.

The other option you have is to alter your feet to fit the boots. A visit to your local cabinet maker can do wonders. Use the table saw for width, a miter saw for length and planer for height. Finish with a belt sander to smooth the sharp edges.
post #7 of 13

Hey! I used my circular saw and I cut my boots three times and they are still too short! :

On a more practical note .... if you can't return them have you tried a light weight sock or a silk liner?
post #8 of 13
Thread Starter 
I have been wearing them around a lot today and they are feeling much better. Toe room is still very small, but I can have the shell punched out after a week of skiing if I still have problems. I ski in a very very thin sock, and have been wearing them with that.

Thanks for the advice.
post #9 of 13
I think your problem is the way boots jump from one shell size to another (ie. manufacturers make a shell that covers more than one size). I bought the 10.50 this yr. in a 29.0 and they're HUGE on me (street shoe is 11.5) and I hate them. When I complained to the shop, the pulled the 28.5 off the shelf and my toes were curled back they were so tight - reason - I had gone to the high-end of the smaller shell and my larger boots were at the low-end of the next shell up. Boot manufacturers mostly use the lining to make up the difference.. that's why you have to try on many different boots from different manufacturers to fall into the right fit IMHO. Good luck.. hope you do better than I did. I'm going to Lange's next year as I seem to fall right into their fitment and shell strategy.

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ March 11, 2002 08:49 AM: Message edited 1 time, by Sudsysul ]</font>
post #10 of 13
Thread Starter 
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR> I bought the 10.50 this yr. in a 29.0 and they're HUGE on me (street shoe is 11.5) and I hate them<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Even though it is really irrelevant, I wear a size 12.5 street shoe, and bought the 28.

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ March 11, 2002 11:24 AM: Message edited 1 time, by biker ]</font>
post #11 of 13
For people like me that have feet like a duck, good fit seems to be rare or hard to find. My Atomics now fit me a lot better than another brand's near top of the line model. Hence, if paying for comfort, I would gladly rebuy the atomics for alot more than i first paid. Everyone seems to be built in a different shape or form.
post #12 of 13
Biker--not knowing you, and being a long way away, it sounds like you have having the perfectly natural second thoughts anybody has after a big purchase, so relax, you'll have a great season in the boots next year. My three thoughts (for what they're worth)--(1) with use the liners will pack out, so that will take care of itself (2) if you bought the boots at a decent bootshop,the staff will work with you to stretch the shell, etc. (if you're foots a tad wide, for instance) and (3) spend some more money and get yourself a set of custom footbeds.
post #13 of 13
This story sounds so familiar!
I had the same issue when I first bought my boots a month ago. (Salomon Axe, women's size 23ish). They were a couple milimeters smaller than my foot, but I had a centimeter or so of room in the shell when they took out the liner. They were the last pair of the former year model- so I was getting $450 boots for $150. Of course, with a deal like that, they ALWAYS tend to "feel better". [img]smile.gif[/img]
However, the next morning I tried them on in my ski house and they felt really uncomfortably small! I panicked and called the store I had purchased them from. (Aspen East in Killington, VT- they REALLY know their stuff!) The woman I spoke with reassured me that it is a good thing to buy them a bit tight to begin with because boots get a half-size bigger after your first few times of use. She said that most people make the mistake of going for perfect comfort in the store- which leads to owning a too-big boot down the line. Which, incidentally, was the main problem with my old boots.
She told me that if I could stick it out the first couple of times, I would be very happy in the end. She suggested that I start out with very thin socks on my first day on the mountain, then go back to regular thickness socks as they break in.
I will tell you, she was absolutely 100% correct! By the end of the first day, I felt a huge differnce. On my second day, I was even able to put toe warmers in (which would have been impossible when I first bought them). Now, they are absolutely perfect, and I dont' have the loose fit I have with my old ones (which made it hard to contrl the skis at times).
Sounds like you will be just fine!
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