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Rate this post feature?

post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 
Here's an interesting notion:

Rather than just rating a thread, how about providing the ability to rate a single post?

The system would show the rating as either " <n> bears" and " <n> bears>" Where <n> is the number of bears that have given the post a thumbs up or a thumbs down. Naturally, only one rating per bear per post. And, it would be anonymous.

Why? So that inexperienced folks could separate the wheat from the chaff. Since it appears that Epic ski coaches rarely post here anymore the rest of us need a way to identify what's considered actually correct vs. rubbish. It used to be easy: BB would give relevant feedback.

I don't know if the lack of posting by Epic coaches is because they don't care anymore, or because they are sick of correcting mistakes/justifying their positions and are instead choosing to ignore what they think is wrong.

In either case, if the inmates are running the asylum, as it appears to be, then the inmates need to have a way of identifying what is good "10 " ,bad "15 " or controversial "5 and 5 ".
post #2 of 16
I like the idea, don't know if it is possible, but I really like the idea. I'll pass it to dchan and company.
post #3 of 16
Sadly, I think any voting system for threads in the instructional forum area would rate the system the poster teaches rather than the content of the post. That is my uninformed opinion as a non-instructor and observer of that part of the forums. Given time and experience with the content posted here, participants will soon figure out for themselves what content is valuable.

So, my vote would be no.
post #4 of 16
We had it for a while and it got out of hand so it was removed.

We can revisit it but I don't think so.

Same with ratings of members.

DC
post #5 of 16
Thread Starter 
If I see 1000 I'd think that the content has something to do with it..... If I see 1000 I'd think the same thing......

It's risky to draw conclusions from small numbers, but when I see a combined 20 and ratings, I'll start to draw conclusions.

And, not every post is about party lines.
post #6 of 16
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dchan
We had it for a while and it got out of hand so it was removed.

We can revisit it but I don't think so.

Same with ratings of members.

DC
Was it rated as I'm suggesting or just with a star system? It makes a huge difference.

All I am suggesting is some way to provide some amount of guidance to "the goods", and to identify rubbish.

BTW: how could a rate this post feature "get out of hand"?
post #7 of 16
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigE
All I am suggesting is some way to provide some amount of guidance to "the goods", and to identify rubbish.
We have language. Tell me how or where I'm wrong, mistaken, muddleheaded, ignorant, obtuse.
The nice thing about writing specific responses is that specific correction is taken.


Quote:
BTW: how could a rate this post feature "get out of hand"?
- deliberate sabotage (e.g. someone goes out and gives to all one person's posts)
- no requirement to understand the post before rating so rating by the unqualified or lazy.
- pre-judgment (someone who might value the post gets turned off by ratings)
- all the responses rated 'bad': which would you choose?
- no requirements for standards (does omission rate as much of a as mis-speaking?)
- suppression of posts by the less-versed who might be shy of a negative response
- lack of participation so skewed sampling of readership


etc
etc.
post #8 of 16
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by comprex
We have language. Tell me how or where I'm wrong, mistaken, muddleheaded, ignorant, obtuse.
The nice thing about writing specific responses is that specific correction is taken.
IMO, this is in the realm of the epic ski coaches, who unfortunately no longer post here or post too rarely.

I am very hesitant to take the advice of many posters, and I am sure that many are very hesitant to take mine.

You are right about the abuse that can happen. But the same thing can happen in writing. It's even more compelling when the abuse is written down than it is to see a simple or .

In the worst case, the ratings can be ignored. In the best case, the max 's posts identify what epic is promoting.
post #9 of 16
another coach gone big E .... seems Rick checked out ....
post #10 of 16
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigE
You are right about the abuse that can happen. But the same thing can happen in writing. It's even more compelling when the abuse is written down than it is to see a simple or .
And then it is no longer anonymous and the poster's violation of the Terms and Conditions can be duly noted.

The ability to write a cogent directed response demonstrates that someone is qualified to rate a post. I would not like to lose that safeguard.
post #11 of 16
BigE,

Another great idea, rest assured you remain on my A list. You always bring quality stuff.

I fear tho, that vendettas would result in inaccuracies. I police the garbage myself thru liberal use of the ignore feature.

Your assumption regarding top level coaches departing has merit. I certainly am not a high level coach, been out of the teaching game too long and never achieved the upper level certs I wanted to reach. Just didn't have the time with a growing family to raise. Being a flatlander the time and expense would have been too great. Despite that, I hoped I had occasionally brought some useful stuff based on decades of skiing (and nearly 10 years of teaching) to the table re the few posts I made in the technique forum. I won't play in the technique forum anymore, in fact I rarely read anything there any more. The PMTS/ PSIA flame wars just flat out wore me down. I made a couple of feeble attempts to suggest options for peace....

I give up. It needs fixin' and I can't fix it. I love skiing, I don't get the animosity. Try it all, keep what works throw out what doesn't....I get my ski instruction now from the links in our signatures....and yep I spent a bit of time last month watching HH 1 and 2 dvd's. (got 1 cheap on ebay and borrowed 2) I admit I did turn the volume down after a while and I didn't drink any cool aid. Dude can ski tho...big time. I got a few bucks tucked away waiting for Weems video...looking forward to that one!

Wish I had something positive to say...guess this post gets a

Maybe the new batch of myriad moderators can tackle the animosity beast....I'm out on it...

Gonna sneak out instead for a quick 9 holes tomorrow morning....:
post #12 of 16
Quote:
Originally Posted by comprex

- deliberate sabotage (e.g. someone goes out and gives to all one person's posts)
- no requirement to understand the post before rating so rating by the unqualified or lazy.
- pre-judgment (someone who might value the post gets turned off by ratings)
- all the responses rated 'bad': which would you choose?
- no requirements for standards (does omission rate as much of a as mis-speaking?)
- suppression of posts by the less-versed who might be shy of a negative response
- lack of participation so skewed sampling of readership


etc
etc.
Exactly..
post #13 of 16
Thread Starter 
disski,

He was just posting a couple days ago! It is really sad that all these guys are leaving.

I guess they must be tired of their years of dedicated experience and expert knowledge falling on deaf ears, like pearls before swine.

I can't say I blame them.

hrstrat: thank you!
post #14 of 16
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigE
disski,

He was just posting a couple days ago! It is really sad that all these guys are leaving.

....

I can't say I blame them.
yeah - I was thinking about the old days... when we had the chat room and all the people here...

maybe we need to start a new place and get all the old folks back there?
post #15 of 16
Thread Starter 
Bob Barnes was a huge factor in keeping the interest alive. Everyone could learn something from his posts -- even the 'A' list folks payed attention and felt like contributing more.

But, you can never really go back can you?
post #16 of 16
yep - for years I stayed to read Bob's posts and to chat to snokarver and gonz and miles and VSP and bonni and skierj and ryan and a heap of others in the chat room....

then I stayed for Ricks posts...

now?

Go back - probably not....
Start over?
maybe?
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