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A couple SLC questions before upcoming visit

post #1 of 21
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The son (age 10) and I will be heading to SLC on 4/2 through 4/6 for a little skiing. As I've never been, there are a few logistical questions.

We are set to arrive at 10:30AM local, and the plan is to pick up the rental car, and head over to Deer Valley for the "ski free the day you arrive" deal. Is there a particular place that we should park, considering that we are going to have to "gear up" before hitting the slopes? Would could also do PC or the Canyons on the same deal, but DV sounded like it would be a good first day warmup.

After that, the general plan is to head back to Midvale, check into the La Quinta, grab some eats, and hit sack early for our first Alta invasion. Since we were going to try a lesson, or two, I figured on parking at the Albion base. It's no problem to arrive with most of the gear on, but should Highway 210 be closed to those without chains, and we take the bus up the canyon, is there a place to store a day bag? As high level intermediates, are there any specific chair/run suggestions? I'm hoping for some fresh, although it would be my first real powder experience; hence the thought of a powder lesson.

Might also consider a day a Solitude, if the weather continues to hold out. Although, if Alta is to our liking, that may not happen. From what I keep reading, the general vibe of skiing first, second and third matches our inclinations.

Any other Bears want to hook up for a couple of runs while we are out there? I don't have a cell, but I'm sure we could work something out.

Also, are there any spots near the hotel to pick up discounted tickets? Don't really need any pointers to night life, but a suggestion or two regarding decent pizza, or other kid friendly eats would be helpful.

BTW, what does it take to get on an airplane, from an ID paperwork standpoint, nowdays? Will I need anything special for the son?

Thanks.
post #2 of 21
>... head over to Deer Valley for the "ski free the day you arrive" deal. Is there a particular place that we should park, considering that we are going to have to "gear up" before hitting the slopes?
--there is a subway in park city you will see on your right, you could stop there for eats, probably change in DV parking lot, appropriate there.

>...to Midvale, check into the La Quinta,
-that's where i stay, nice place, with view of the cottonwoods

> I figured on parking at the Albion base. It's no problem to arrive with most of the gear on, but should Highway 210 be closed to those without chains, and we take the bus up the canyon, is there a place to store a day bag?
--just park wherever, no fret. can store bag at Atla base

>As high level intermediates, are there any specific chair/run suggestions?
-let gravity(and a map) be your guide!, ski the whole mtn

>Might also consider a day a Solitude,
snowbird

>BTW, what does it take to get on an airplane, from an ID paperwork standpoint, nowdays? Will I need anything special for the son?
--drivers license, son needs birth certificate with seal on it, issued by state office.
post #3 of 21
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>...to Midvale, check into the La Quinta,
-that's where i stay, nice place, with view of the cottonwoods
Good to hear. From the description, they indicate having an all-weather pool. A few gentle laps sound like a nice way to unwind with the kid.

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>Might also consider a day a Solitude,
snowbird
Kinda figured that would be your reply. Will have to see how the Alta thing works, but that is certainly a possibility. My son is fine with steep, even when the snow is pretty hard. However, if things get a bit sketchy, his survival mode is to straight line it out. I want him to get a couple more survival tactics in his toolkit.

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>BTW, what does it take to get on an airplane, from an ID paperwork standpoint, nowdays? Will I need anything special for the son?
--drivers license, son needs birth certificate with seal on it, issued by state office.
Glad I asked this one. I think I have one up in the file cabinet. If not, that may become an issue, although, there might be enough time to correct.

Thanks for the reply
post #4 of 21
There are large lockers behind the Albion ticket office.
Buy tokens when you get your lift tickets.
post #5 of 21
dave, did you register for the quick start pass?
post #6 of 21
Dave,

My son who is 13 flies frequently and has a school ID with his picture on it he uses for ID. He likes having an ID to show, but the law is a passenger is under the age of 18 the DOES NOT NEED identification.

I just returned from a trip to Alta with my son. It was our first time there We started off the first day with an early bird private lesson followed by three hours of private instuction. It wasn't cheap, but it was smart. It was snowing to beat the band. Visibility was poor and, frankly, we would have had a hard time finding our way around. The instructor was very helpfull showing us around the mountain and helping with our powder skiing. There is quite a bit of terrain for you to explore on the supreme and sugarloaf lifts at your level that is straight foeward and easy to access. By hooking up with an instructor for a few hours - he/she will give you some great input on less obvious areas for you to check out that will be more adventurous while not getting you in over your head.
post #7 of 21
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dave, did you register for the quick start pass?
Collective head scratch here...what is it?

Thanks for the locker note; just what I needed to know.

MisterK:

Thanks for the ID note. They don't have photo ID's at my son's school at this time. I still might be able to find some "official" documetation, although, without a recent photo, I don't see how it could be of any real value. However, he does have an annual photo ski pass to the local hill.

I'm already on the lesson thing, although, I'm not sure the dollars are there for a private. Was thinking a couple of the group lessons might be the way to go. Being late season, and on a Monday, I was hoping to luck into a very small group. If that goes well, might even try it again.

Absolutely agree a bit of local knowledge can make the first experience. He has been to Big Mountain, several years back, and knows what it is like to ski by feel. Not fun, if new to the terrain.
post #8 of 21
Have him bring the ski pass with the picture on it if he wants. Like I said, he doesn't need any ID at all if he is under 18.
post #9 of 21
Oh, as far as the lessons go - will they allow a 10 yo into an adult group lesson? If you haven't already, you should call the Alta ski school. Ask for Annette. She was very helpful making our arrangments. A private lesson for you and your son will set you back about $100 an hour... That's alot of pizza... On the other hand it really increased our level of enjoyment for the whole trip.

You are going to have a great time. We had so much fun we're going back April 9th - 13th for round two. My son doesn't know yet. When I pick him up at the airport in Abq. on the 9th I'm going to load his arse on another plane to Salt Lake right away. I don't think he's going to complain about it.
post #10 of 21
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Originally Posted by MisterK
Have him bring the ski pass with the picture on it if he wants. Like I said, he doesn't need any ID at all if he is under 18.
What law would that be (that says kids under 18 do not require ID)? Each airline has their own rules and requirements for ID's. The correct answer is to check with your airline. Even without any ID, they will accommodate you & your son, but you will both be subject to the dreaded "additional screening". A ski pass will certainly not suffice.
post #11 of 21
I know of no airline that requires ID for minor passengers, though the adult with them must have identification The law has to do with the TSA security checkpoints. Minors do NOT have to show ID. In the case of a ten year old it will not be a problem. If you are travelling with a seventeen yo then it is a good idea for them to have identification so they can prove they are under 18 and don't have to show ID...

I have never been subject to additional screening because my son didn't have a govt. issued ID, and he has never been subject to additional screening when he has forgotten his ID while flying by himself. Since 9-11 he has made over fifty flights.
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post #13 of 21
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Originally Posted by MisterK
I know of no airline that requires ID for minor passengers, though the adult with them must have identification
I can't (or wont)say for sure because I haven't polled all of the airlines.
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Originally Posted by MisterK
The law has to do with the TSA security checkpoints.
As somebody that works in airport/airline security, I ask again what is the law that states that minors do not have to show ID? The law states that each airline must verify the identity of its passengers. There are some other things that apply that are Sensitive Security Information that I cannot divulge that may impact what happens if a minor passenger does not have ID. Each airline goes through different protocols when a child does not have any government issued ID. By the way, a school ID with a picture is acceptable.
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Originally Posted by MisterK
Minors do NOT have to show ID. In the case of a ten year old it will not be a problem. If you are travelling with a seventeen yo then it is a good idea for them to have identification so they can prove they are under 18 and don't have to show ID....
You've got the ages wrong, but again, each airline has different protocols. You are correct, a 10 yo SHOULD NOT have any issues. Dave needs to check with the airline.

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Originally Posted by MisterK
I have never been subject to additional screening because my son didn't have a govt. issued ID, and he has never been subject to additional screening when he has forgotten his ID while flying by himself. Since 9-11 he has made over fifty flights.
Does he look young for his age? Again, I can't say the exact parameters that would preclude the additional screening for you or your son.

Not trying to be too argumentative, just trying to set the record straight on something that most people don't understand. The industry and the Government haven't done that great of a job getting the word out, either, but we have to balance the sensitivity of our protocols against the desire to give everyone the info they want/need.
post #14 of 21
MrK,

Who did you end up skiing with?

L
post #15 of 21
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by carbonissimo
Sorry about the "head scratch" thing, I didn't remember that was what the program was called. Yes, I did the one page registration thing a couple of weeks back, and printed the vouchers. It was about the only way we were going to DV.

All others:

One hundred percent correct that I should call the airline, Delta in this case, and see what, if any restrictions, there are regarding bording for my son. Should have thought of that first, but there are many things going through my head at this point. The flight out is 8:30AM Sunday morning, to permit maximum turnage on the day of arrival. A later flight out would not be good.
post #16 of 21
I've been meaning to drop you a PM, Lonnie,and thank you for the tip on the early bird. Things worked out perfectly. It started snowing around 5:00 A.M and 17" piled up before the snow stopped around 2:00 in the afternoon.

We skied with Felix. He had to put up with a fair amount of Gaperish nonsense like when I dropped my glove off the lift while trying to fix a problem with my eyewear. :

Felix was patient and friendly. The knowledge he shared with us was invaluable and greatly enhanced the quality of our trip as first timers to Alta

The conditions were tough, driving snow, and we spent much of our time on Supreme where the trees provided more shelter from the wind and blowing snow both while on the lift and while skiing. That is a good example of how skiing with an instructor/guide was very helpfull. Without Felix showing the way, goodness knows where we would have ended up in those conditions? For example, he showed us how to access the trees skiers right off Spreme without having to negotiate the cliff bands in the area. The early bird lesson was a great thing! We made lots of first tracks in that first hour. It was well worth the money.
post #17 of 21
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Originally Posted by dave_in_cinci
Sorry about the "head scratch" thing, I didn't remember that was what the program was called. Yes, I did the one page registration thing a couple of weeks back, and printed the vouchers. It was about the only way we were going to DV.
Do you mean because of the cost? I thought the same thing, but I believe DV was $72 and PCMR and the Canyons were $74. If you are used to skiing in the NE, any of the places mentioned will be light years better.
post #18 of 21
Thread Starter 
Northeast...that's funny. Note the screen name. We typically ski the icy 400' hills of SE Indiana (www.perfectnorth.com). Really. We do make the occasional road trip to WV, but haven't made it up east. In real dollars, for us it is just as expensive to go NE versus West.

Yeah, I know real hills are expensive. Probably wouldn't have made it DV both on cost and vibe. The duck tape on clothing, sleep in the car crowd is more my style than the Bognar clad, million dollar condo set. That said, it sounds like you have have the hill to yourself after a big dump. I will reserve full judgement until after the trip.
post #19 of 21
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Originally Posted by MisterK
We skied with Felix. He had to put up with a fair amount of Gaperish nonsense like when I dropped my glove off the lift while trying to fix a problem with my eyewear. :

Felix was patient and friendly. The knowledge he shared with us was invaluable and greatly enhanced the quality of our trip as first timers to Alta.
Felix is a fun guy. He's always the life of ski school parties. I could tell you stories.....

Sorry, 'bout the Hijack.

L
post #20 of 21
Dave, There is an underground duct tape and gortex crowd at Deer Valley.
post #21 of 21
Thread Starter 
Ahh, that gives me a little hope for humanity.

We are very much looking forward to this adventure. Any additional days, at this point in the season, are all good.
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