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Bellayre, NY conditions this Friday?

post #1 of 18
Thread Starter 
Any first hand reports of conditions in Bellayre? Just got an unexpected day off this Friday (3/24) and I'm tempted to make the 3 hr drive.

The website still shows that it still appears to have excellent conditions!

I've already cleaned the boots and put away the skis, but the cold weather this week has me itching for one last run for the season...

Thanks,
-Pete
post #2 of 18
I skied there on Sunday. It felt like spring the entire drive up from NYC until you got within five miles of Belleayre, then it was like mid-winter... never got above 20 degrees at the ski area.

They'd received a few inches overnight and it snowed off and on all day. It was loose powder over rock-hard crust on the upper steep section, and carvable PP on the lower sections.

Not optimal (Stowe/Sugarbush/Jay seem to be the call), but full coverage and certainly better than staying home.
post #3 of 18
I'm hitting Hunter tomorrow (Wed) since I got stood up on Monday by my date. No more screwing around, I'm driving myself.

Is Hunter similar or should we hit B'lyre?
post #4 of 18
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Originally Posted by NYCHawkeye74
I'm hitting Hunter tomorrow (Wed) since I got stood up on Monday by my date. No more screwing around, I'm driving myself.

Is Hunter similar or should we hit B'lyre?
I would ahve gladly gone as my wife was sick and I didn't feel like taking the drive alone. Hunter is in much worse shape though. I talk to a guy who lives next to it. ICE and lots of it. I will prolly be hitting it the first 2 weeks in April as long as they are open. I go up either Sunday or Monday or both. It will get better when temps warm up.
post #5 of 18
I was also there on Sunday and agree with Jamesdeluxe. I still had fun but overall I was very very disappointed with Belleayre and the conditions. I had a much better time skiing at Sugarbush the previous weekend in the rain.

KC
post #6 of 18
Keep an eye on the temps for Friday and whether the sun is out or not. Today's ice could be tomorrow's sweet corn!
post #7 of 18
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Originally Posted by moguljunkie
Keep an eye on the temps for Friday and whether the sun is out or not. Today's ice could be tomorrow's sweet corn!
I'm heading west Saterday. I'll be expecting corn when I return.
post #8 of 18
My wife and son were at Belleayre last Friday and they were still blowing snow.
I was at Hunter on Saturday and stopped skiing by 1:30 to much ice and to many people. We got off the lift ,stopped to adjust my boots and was about to go but it was like 3 bus loads of skiers all went at once
My wife went down Belt Pkwy ,when I saw her at the bottom she said she saw ski patrol standing over a guy, and it looked like they were giving him CPR. I went down Cliff to Racers ,the extreme edges were OK ,but venture 2 feet towards the middle and it turns race coarse solid.
Hunter hasn't blown snow since pres.week.
post #9 of 18
Thread Starter 

Just got back!

Just got back from Belleayre and the conditions were very good. Some of the side trails had spotty coverage, but the main runs were well covered and had no ice!

I got there at 9:15AM and skied until 3:30PM. There were frequent snow showers during the day and it made for very good conditions.

Lift #7 had mechanical problems and I understand it'll be closed for the rest of the season. This made for some creative hiking/walking to reach some of the trails in the center.

On a side note, I finally got my own equipment this year after renting stuff forever. One lesson this year at Stratton and I've managed to ski the groomed black runs at Hunter, Windham and the Poconos (probably badly, but I'm in control and rarely fall on the "steeps"). I even managed a few of the smaller moguls at Hunter.

So thinking I was hot stuff, I looked for some double-black runs today (my 8th day this season, only 5 or so days in total for the last 7 years before this year).

I managed to find the trail name "Onteora" early in the morning and ignored the warning sign. Little did I know this was a MASSIVE (to me) mogul trail. By the time I saw them, it was too late to hike back up, but I'm an expert now, right?

I somehow managed to fall all the way down the trail, release from my bindings four times (lost count honestly), and make it back to the lift soaked in sweat and snow. I was so lucky that there was no lift nearby or another soul on the trail to witness my pathetic attempts to stay on top of the bumps.

Humm, I guess I still have a LOT more to learn...

All in all, a good way to end a very busy season for me. Hopefully this addiction will hold for next year.

Any suggestions from the NY area folks which resorts nearby that will offer less intimidating moguls runs for practice?

-Pete
post #10 of 18
Congrats. You managed to find the steepest trail they have. I wait until spring to hit it for just the reason you found out. It's usualy very icy. I skied it in 3 feet of powder many moons ago, it was like a freefall into dust. You are lucky it wasn't a sheet. At least i know that when I get back I'll have something to ski in April.
post #11 of 18
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Some links to photos today:

http://www.pbase.com/pistolpete13/image/57693488
http://www.pbase.com/pistolpete13/image/57693495
http://www.pbase.com/pistolpete13/image/57693496
http://www.pbase.com/pistolpete13/image/57693497

These were taken around the base. I have an older digital that I don't trust having on the slope with me. If I fall with it, it's not the camera damage I'm worried about, it's a cracked or brusied rib I fear more from this old brick.
post #12 of 18
Thread Starter 
Hey eyeski,

Is that trial always moguls or is it smooth at some point earlier in the year?

The upper part of Algonquin was the steepest trail I could fine today. The steep portion was way too short...

-Pete
post #13 of 18
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Originally Posted by PistolPete13
Hey eyeski,

Is that trial always moguls or is it smooth at some point earlier in the year?

The upper part of Algonquin was the steepest trail I could fine today. The steep portion was way too short...

-Pete
In the 8 years I've been skiing there I have rarely seen it groomed. I don't hit the place as much as I used to as the top is way too short and is usualy very icey. Once you're off the top the middle is too shallow, except the bump runs which are good practice. Algonquin is about as steep as Ont. Belleayre is best after a dump, Cathedral is a nice backcountry run away from everything, but only good when it snows a lot. Check out Plattekill next year when conditions are good. They have 3 runs that are top to bottom 1000 vert steep. Good tree skiing too.
post #14 of 18
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Originally Posted by PistolPete13
The steep portion was way too short...

-Pete
Belleayre, in a nutshell.

Still like it a lot though, usually good conditions, not too crowded, good atmosphere.

If you like the short steep bits at Belleayre though drive the extra 25 minutes to Plattekill when the snow gets good -- they've got runs that continue top to bottom at that pitch!
post #15 of 18
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Originally Posted by PistolPete13

Any suggestions from the NY area folks which resorts nearby that will offer less intimidating moguls runs for practice?

-Pete
You should have done Onteora from midstation down, they're good learning bumps. Also, the Canyon is nice, leading down to the Superchief.

Speaking of steep - top of Onteora is pretty steep but not as steep as Utsayantha or the left side of Seneca.......
post #16 of 18
Belleayre is really starting to grow on me. I'll take Plattekill any day when the natural snow is sufficient but that was very rare this year and it never coincided with my schedule.

Belleayre's commitment to leaving some runs bumped up combined with light crowds and a family atmosphere (Hunter, though improving, is the opposite...) really makes it a decent place to ski.

The biggest downside is that you're realistically skiing about 800 feet of vert if you want to avoid the super slow quad lift with about half of that being decent steepness. Elk Mountain in PA is similar but you get 1000 feet - sort of steep for half, shallow for the last half. A good headwind makes the last half of either of these mountains useless.

Plattekill is 1000 feet all real. The bottom is mellower than the top but still steep enough. Also has classic old school VT style narrow beginner and intermediate trails as a bonus.
post #17 of 18
Check out these pics of Belleayre today from AlpineZone: http://forums.alpinezone.com/8055-be...owder-day.html.
Damn, that looks good! Looking forward to making it my home mountain next year.

Better hurry up there this year, though; after 4/2, they'll only have the Tomahawk lift serving the entire upper mountain.
post #18 of 18
Hunter was also good on Saturday. Not as much new snow as seen in those Belleayre pictures, but still good, especially in the morning. The snow got a bit thick in the afternoon. Nice bumps on Clairs and Crossover (even though I'm still a terrible bumps skier ) and absolutely no crowds. Most of the open trails have a lot of snow, but its still way less than they've had in previous years at this time.
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