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Stowe or Jay Peak?

post #1 of 22
Thread Starter 
Playing hooky tomorrow with a friend. Decided to go north to find better conditions and trying to decide between Jay and Stowe.

It'll be an 0-dark-30 start with a long drive either way. About 3 hours to Stowe & about 4 hours to Jay. Cheaper lift tickets at Jay, but I'll probably spend difference in extra gas.

If conditions are equal, I'll probably hit Stowe and sleep in an extra 1/2 hour. But if Jay's got the snow, it may be worth it
post #2 of 22
We both got fairly significant amounts of snow, both places are rocking right now. Do you want to ski Jay Vee (Jr Varsity) or Stowe (Varsity) the choice is yours.
post #3 of 22
Stowe over Jay any day!
post #4 of 22
All I can say is whiever way you go, you picked agood day to go. Stowe got a lot of snow last night, and was on windhold most of today. I'm going up for first chair tomorrow.
post #5 of 22
I'd hardly call Jay jv but I hope you suggest stowe to everyone. Less crowds at jay for me!
post #6 of 22
Jay!
Come on now JV, jay gets more snow than anybody and its terrain is just off the hook!
No blow to Stowe its great, but in my opinion, Jay rocks way more!
post #7 of 22
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Originally Posted by cjb
Stowe over Jay any day!
That's a joke right?
post #8 of 22
For those of you who went to either tell us how it was when you get home, I'm interested to hear what I'm missing out on.
post #9 of 22
Thread Starter 
Without getting into the Stowe vs. Jay debate, we decided to head up to Stowe yesterday for a full day of skiing. We found suprisingly good - but mixed - conditions for a great mid-week trip!

Started off with a couple of warm-up runs off Lord where we found packed powder on most of the cruisers with about 3" of fresh on the edges. The more exposed trails on the front side were somewhat windblown leaving firm, but manageable conditions. Many of the steeper trails were groomed (including National, lower Liftline, Hayride & Nosedive).

Around 11:00 we decided to ski over to the gondola for a few runs and found 3-4" of powder on Rimrock on the way over. The cruisers were groomed and fast. Gondolier was pretty icy up top, but firm and fast through the mid- and lower sections. The big surprise was Chin Clip ... the upper section was a sea of soft, powdery bumps (turn, turn, turn .. splat! .. Wheee!! ... I gotta get better at bumps )

Back over to the quad and took a trip through the Nosedive glades in 4-6" of powder ... lots of folks skiing in the trees ... plenty of snow for the most part in the upper sections. A few more runs off Nosedive & Liftline & finished off the day over on Hayride.

I'm not quite worthy of Goat or Starr, but saw some adventerous souls taking the plunge. Conditions looked icy in spots, but good snow was there to be found.

Overall, a great day ... conditions ran from thin cover & icy to soft & powdery. While there was ample evidence of what a lousy snow year we've been having, I also found some of the best conditions I've seen all season. Looks like a strong finish to an otherwise forgetable season.
post #10 of 22
Jay gets only a little more snow than Stowe.

Jay is best if you don't know your way around.

Stowe is better if you do or you're adventurous. The hike-to stuff on Mansfield is unparalleled (short of bc stuff in the Whites and Adk's).
post #11 of 22
Nice! Jealous I am OES! Gonna have to listen to you brag about Stowe tomorrow I guess
post #12 of 22
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Originally Posted by OldEasternSkier
Playing hooky tomorrow with a friend. Decided to go north to find better conditions and trying to decide between Jay and Stowe.

It'll be an 0-dark-30 start with a long drive either way. About 3 hours to Stowe & about 4 hours to Jay. Cheaper lift tickets at Jay, but I'll probably spend difference in extra gas.

If conditions are equal, I'll probably hit Stowe and sleep in an extra 1/2 hour. But if Jay's got the snow, it may be worth it
O.K., I understand the logic, but I'm confused. Jay is $58. Period. Stowe does not appear to offer a 1 day ticket unless you buy the "ultimate" 8 a.m. to 9 p.m. for $76. After reading their rate chart I am left feeling "F them."
post #13 of 22
For Vermonters Jay is even cheaper, like half the price of Stowe
post #14 of 22
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Originally Posted by jviss
O.K., I understand the logic, but I'm confused. Jay is $58. Period. Stowe does not appear to offer a 1 day ticket unless you buy the "ultimate" 8 a.m. to 9 p.m. for $76. After reading their rate chart I am left feeling "F them."
That's the most confusing thing ever. They do, obviously sell 1 day tickets, but apparently daytrippers are not their market so they don't put it on the webpage?

1 day tickets are $74.

Jay also does a lot of deals (usually midweek).
post #15 of 22
viss,

I ski for $25.00 at Jay with a Jiminy Peak season pass. Jay will usually give a good discount for other season passes. Call em.

If you go to Jay you should know that the good skiing is in the woods. That's where it's at. Not to say that there are no good steeps on trails, the woods are where you want to be, IMHO.
post #16 of 22
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Originally Posted by Paul Joness
viss,

I ski for $25.00 at Jay with a Jiminy Peak season pass. Jay will usually give a good discount for other season passes. Call em.

If you go to Jay you should know that the good skiing is in the woods. That's where it's at. Not to say that there are no good steeps on trails, the woods are where you want to be, IMHO.
Is this in the past two years? It used to be $25, but last year they increased it to $35 and this year to $38. Given this year's traffic, I'd expect another price increase.
post #17 of 22
i was there on the 23rd of Feb and paid $25. It was worth it - it was worth full price!
post #18 of 22
I was at Stowe on 3/25 & 26 and skied for $30 a day. Conditions were awesome spring corn. Visibility was tough on early on 3/25 because of the fog and snow, but the skiing was great. I like that Stowe spins a lift at 7:30 AM on weekends so the early birds can bag 14,000 feet of verticle before the crowds start showing up at 9:00.

Don't pay full price for lift tickets, get a Stowe card or a VSAA lift ticket discount coupons
post #19 of 22
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Originally Posted by Talisman
...bag 14,000 feet of verticle...
I don't understand this. Is this the cumulative verticle drop for the available trails?
post #20 of 22
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Originally Posted by jviss
I don't understand this. Is this the cumulative verticle drop for the available trails?
I actually considered it and its possible. With no lines and a 10 minute quad ride at 2300 vert per run. 7:30 to 9 is 90 minutes. 6 * 10 is 60 minutes. that leaves 30 minutes for 6 runs or 5 minutes a run. On impeccable groomers clocking about 30 throughout its definately doable. The key is the transitions, need to ski down and get right on the chair and get of the chair and go. No chit chat or small talk. At Okemo on a hard day we were able to chew up the whole vert in 5 minutes easily just bombing stuff. They also have around 2k.
post #21 of 22
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Originally Posted by Alfonse
I actually considered it and its possible. With no lines and a 10 minute quad ride at 2300 vert per run. 7:30 to 9 is 90 minutes. 6 * 10 is 60 minutes. that leaves 30 minutes for 6 runs or 5 minutes a run.
I agree with your calculation.

With light crowds doing a 'lap' off of the Four Runner quad takes about 15 minutes (ride up and the run down). No standing around, no waiting and skiing at a reasonable rate (not at Boston Bob speeds). Doing bumps takes a little longer for me. The crowds also don't show at exactly 9:00 AM.
post #22 of 22
That's why they discontinued the first hour for free deal. People would ski for an hour and then they'd just be done and go home.
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