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K2 Flexon a Reality

post #1 of 23
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Just fondled the new K2 Flexon at my local shop (Swiss Sports Haus). It's not really new, just the same Flexon everyone has come to know and love. The shell and buckles are identical to Flexons of old. The liners will be Intuitions and Rolf (the owner) told me that there will be numerous tounge variations including a camo option for all you steezy kids out there. The liner can be baked, but doesn't need to be (it will conform to your foot by skiing it a few days). The liner is also slightly different than current Intuitions in that the tounge (or wrap area where a tounge should be) is stiffer. The result is a stiffer boot than the last Flexon Pro. The pair he had there were black with orange accents and were called "Full Tilt". The K2 name is not on the boot yet and he's not sure when it will be. Apperantly, these boots were available in Japan this year already and will be available in Canada next season. He said they may be a mid season or 2008 offering in the US. Price is expected to be over $100 cheaper than the Dalbello Krypton. So there's the scoop. The Flexon lives and will be out in Canada by mid to late Sept.....
post #2 of 23
Sicter.

Race tounges? Parts - bails? Is K2 going to support these pretty well? I worry about parts supply. I want some of those new liners. Also while we're at it, they could stand to make a beefed plug version - I would by it.

Man, they were in the olypmics.
post #3 of 23
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Originally Posted by Highway Star
Sicter.

Race tounges? Parts - bails? Is K2 going to support these pretty well? I worry about parts supply. I want some of those new liners. Also while we're at it, they could stand to make a beefed plug version - I would by it.

Man, they were in the olypmics.
The race tounge will be available. Sounds like K2 is behind these for a while. Parts will be readily available.
post #4 of 23
This is the best news I've heard in quite some time and really put a nice end to a crappy day. Can't wait to see them available here.
post #5 of 23
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Originally Posted by Highway Star
Man, they were in the olypmics.
No kidding, I kept pointing them out to my wife (we both ski in Flexons) and she kept asking me why such a great boot wasn't being manufactured any longer. That's a tough one to explain.
post #6 of 23
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Originally Posted by milkman
The race tounge will be available. Sounds like K2 is behind these for a while. Parts will be readily available.
There have been many race tounges in the past, of various stiffnesses. I have two pair. One is about 5 years old and probably gives a flex index of 90 to 100. They are worn and semi retired. The are a solid color and use the same mold as modern flexons. I'm on pair of much older race tounges currently, and they are massively stiffer than the other race tougues - when you flex them by hand and on the boot. Stiffer plastic, and a rounded shape to the flexon ribs. I almost get shin bang with them (tough in flexon since the flex is so deep), and can drive any ski with them. The flex index is around 120 or 130, so pretty stiff actually. They are a little low at the cuff, so I had to T-nut a plastic shank to them at the top. The stock "dual density" or "racing flex" toungues are probably around a 70 flex - complete noodles, IMHO.

I would like to see a plug shell with slightly thicker walls on the inside, with a beefed up rear/upper shell, and race toungues up to a 150 flex index (yes, I'm dead serious). I think that the boots beeing too soft in flex to drive a big ski is what killed them a few years back, I could never ski them in stock form, and the softer race tounges I have were always somewhat limiting. They are awesome with the very stiff race toungue I use now. Something even stiffer and beefier would be money, but the design and feel of the flex keeps it forgiving for freeskiing. Making the plastic a little thicker would only slightly add to the weight, but give you more to grind on the inside. It would with be quite low volume, but hey, it's a plug boot.

The flexon is very easy to take apart and customise, having a variety of shell parts and misc parts to choose from would be go a long way in bringing back the success of the boot.
post #7 of 23
Doesn't really surprise me to hear this, K2 has been rumored for a couple years to have been working with the Flexon molds to try to release a Morrison Pro model boot. I hadn't heard much in the past 1-1.5 years about it though, I just thought that it might have gone by the way side, but I guess not.
post #8 of 23
Interesting. A while back it was pointed out here how much they got right with the Flexon when it first came out. It will be interesting to see how the latest version stacks up and whether there is room for both the Dalbello and K2 boot in the market place.
post #9 of 23

K2 Flexons !?

Oh god please let this be true! If K2 puts out a new Flexon comp with stiff tounge options, I'll be first in line to buy a pair!
post #10 of 23
ah the old flexon....great boot 4 speed events(GS/SG/DH) and the bumps!
4 sl eh....
i still have a pair with the race toungs.(hats off to scott russo RMUSA).
I did have to do a lit of grinding on them to make them fit my feet, ut they did not hurt as much as my new atomic plug boot....
post #11 of 23
As much as I loved my Flexons...and I DID, I had 20 +/- years in them. The Krypton is a better boot in every aspect.
post #12 of 23
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Originally Posted by Phil Pugliese
As much as I loved my Flexons...and I DID, I had 20 +/- years in them. The Krypton is a better boot in every aspect.
So would you try to buy a cheap pair of good used Flexons for under $100 or spend the $4-500 on the Kryptons and use the difference to buy a new pair of skis off of eBay?

This is my current dilema...
post #13 of 23
goriders - you should be able to find Kryptons for less (especially at this time of year). I think Phil and I have both picked up pairs off eBay for significantly less (he trumped me in a bid for a pair once).

Just make sure you know what you're getting in to with these boots. They certainly have a certain foot type that they get along well with.
post #14 of 23
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Originally Posted by Noodler
goriders - you should be able to find Kryptons for less (especially at this time of year). I think Phil and I have both picked up pairs off eBay for significantly less (he trumped me in a bid for a pair once).

Just make sure you know what you're getting in to with these boots. They certainly have a certain foot type that they get along well with.
You can get Kryptons NEW on Ebay for upper 200's. You might be able to find some used ones for under 200 too.
post #15 of 23
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Originally Posted by Phil Pugliese
You can get Kryptons NEW on Ebay for upper 200's. You might be able to find some used ones for under 200 too.
You bought some on ebay?
post #16 of 23
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Originally Posted by vlad
You bought some on ebay?
yes.
post #17 of 23
tell the factory to flow more swag your way. factory testers shouldn't ever have to pay.
post #18 of 23
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Originally Posted by Phil Pugliese
As much as I loved my Flexons...and I DID, I had 20 +/- years in them. The Krypton is a better boot in every aspect.
One of the things I love about Flexons is how light they are. It may seem trivial but it is a noticable difference and no other boot even comes close - including the Krypton.
post #19 of 23
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Originally Posted by vlad
tell the factory to flow more swag your way. factory testers shouldn't ever have to pay.
They weren't for me, but for my son. I can only get so much swag and quite frankly, I paid less for the pair on Ebay than I paid for an extra pair had "formed" earlier in the year.
post #20 of 23
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Originally Posted by Phil Pugliese
They weren't for me, but for my son. I can only get so much swag and quite frankly, I paid less for the pair on Ebay than I paid for an extra pair had "formed" earlier in the year.
you should really point out to them that testers typically get several pairs of boots at no charge, each season.
Raichle (both Molitor and CH gmb) and Alpina used to flow me many pairs, each season, of various prototypical iteration.
They requested season-end returns on many pairs, to examine the durability of many features, post-comp. season;
we all still retained many pairs of boots.
it sounds like they're giving you a standard 'mountain ambassadorship' and calling it product testing.
Do they demand return only of of prototype product?
request more product, phil- they have the $$$ ...
(or give K2 a call)
post #21 of 23
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Originally Posted by vlad
you should really point out to them that testers typically get several pairs of boots at no charge, each season.
Raichle (both Molitor and CH gmb) and Alpina used to flow me many pairs, each season, of various prototypical iteration.
They requested season-end returns on many pairs, to examine the durability of many features, post-comp. season;
we all still retained many pairs of boots.
it sounds like they're giving you a standard 'mountain ambassadorship' and calling it product testing.
Do they demand return only of of prototype product?
request more product, phil- they have the $$$ ...
(or give K2 a call)
Free gear doesn't flow like it used to. I will take what they give me and smile nicely and say "Thank you, is there anything in particular you want me to look for".
post #22 of 23
but does the krypton have the same upright feel like the flexon? that's my biggest beef w/ even the most 'freeride' oriented 4 buckle boots.
post #23 of 23
IMO - no, but there's more to it than my simple answer. I cannot achieve as upright of a stance in the Krypton, but you might as well be comparing apples to oranges. After finally getting in some solid full days on my Kryptons at the end of this season (due to finally finding a liner that works for me - the ZipFit) I would say that the Krypton is really a different boot. Although both boots employ a 3-piece design, they don't feel the same to me at all. Not only do the boots "feel" different on my feet, but they ski very different. The Krypton is a much more solid feeling "substantial" (as Phil says) boot.
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