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I think I may have stretch a knee ligament??

post #1 of 24
3/7/06 at 9:57am
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Hey all!

About a week and a half ago I was skiing in Stratton, VT. I came to a casual left ski hockey stop, but kind of leaned back (don't know why, I'm always pinned to the tongues of my boots) while pivoting around to a stop, I felt a pull through the center of my knee that I have never felt before. There was a moderate amount of pain for about 30 seconds, then it tapered off. As the pain disappeared, I continued skiing very easily. If I tried to make a turn my knee would feel a bit uncomfortable, but nothing alarming.

Over the past few days, my knee has felt a bit rubbery and slightly weak. No pain at all, but its just something that I've never felt before. Keep in mind I've never had a knee injury ever, and have been skiing regularly all of my life.

I have a ski trip planned to Utah and I depart two weeks from today. What can I do to ensure my knee recovers/stengthens between now and then (if indeed there is a "pull" of some description? I also lift weights, and have pretty strong legs. I've decided to not do legs between now and my trip.

I must emphasize there is very little pain (if any), but my leg feels a bit unstable, for lack of a better word. I ran last night and was fine. Maybe I'm being a bit paranoid, but I just want to make sure I do everything I can before my expensive (for me) trip to Utah.

Any thoughts?
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post #2 of 24
3/7/06 at 10:32am
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Originally Posted by Kevin M
Any thoughts?
See an ortho doctor.
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post #3 of 24
3/8/06 at 10:49am
What breckview said, and get a good brace even if you don't go to Utah: I like the one with the swiveling rods on either side of the knee ("Nuclear Knee") http://www.rei.com/product/47595378.htm
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post #4 of 24
3/17/06 at 6:25pm
Go visit a PT clinic.
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post #5 of 24
3/17/06 at 7:23pm
alex, do you wear a brace every time or just when you feel you need more support.? i wonder if i should but i hear you shouldn't get dependant on them but it seems preventive measures might be smarter sometimes
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post #6 of 24
3/18/06 at 10:20am
I wear it every time I go skiing - just in case - but I think by now it is psychological more than anything.
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post #7 of 24
3/18/06 at 1:18pm
The US Ski and Snowboard Team's Orthopede has an office at 1160 Park Ave., and he's a REALLY great guy.
Kevin Plancher- 212-876-5200.
plancherortho.com
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post #8 of 24
3/20/06 at 10:13am
Thread Starter 
Thanks for all of the help!

Iam pleased to report that my knee has been feeling great over the past week and half.

I'm out to Park City tommorow night, and plan on taking it easy to start.
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post #9 of 24
3/20/06 at 10:34am
what the heck are you doing trying to self-diagnose with the level of medical or anatomic knowledge you DO NOT possess?

go see a real orthopod who regularly treats athletic knee injuries.
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post #10 of 24
3/23/06 at 11:25am
instead of creating another thread, i'm gonna hijack this one with a similiar question

a couple of weeks ago (before reading the ACL links, and finding out how ACL damaged is caused ) i thought i'd try some jumps - something i haven't bothered with since i was 12-13 and invulnerable :. Anyway, the landings went well I thought, and there was no pain at all until that evening when my left knee started hurting - not badly, just twinges at the back of the knee (to let me know it had been abused?)
Two weeks later, I still get the twinges, particularly after keeping the knee entirely bent for a few minutes (ie crouching or folding my legs up underneath me on the couch).
Any ideas what I might have done to myself?

Don't tell me to go to the doctor, I figured that one out by myself and i'm trying to postpone it if possible. Kitchener, Ontario is not the best place for medical care (go to family doctor, spend 6 hours in the waiting room because she overbooks to the point where it's absolutely ridiculous just to get a referral to a sports doctor, wait a month or two etc..) - I just don't have time for that right now.

jinxie


ps since it's such a long post already: i tried a rail too.. slipped and ended up staddleing it and rinding it like that to the bottom . were i a guy i'd have needed some serious medical attention
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post #11 of 24
3/23/06 at 4:02pm
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Originally Posted by uncle crud
what the heck are you doing trying to self-diagnose with the level of medical or anatomic knowledge you DO NOT possess?

go see a real orthopod who regularly treats athletic knee injuries.
and, worse yet, why ask strangers on the 'net?
this is why i post the US Ski and Snowboard team's orthopede-ci surgeon on these knee posts.
everyone's acl-crazy, incidentally. the other two components of the 'terrible triad' can be injured without acl involvement, and the meniscus can be torn without any trauma to ligaments.
just see a real orthopede
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post #12 of 24
3/23/06 at 6:29pm
vlad: ask stragers because the only other hardcore skier i know is my dad, and he has perfect knees (considering his rugby days.. i'm very impressed)
i've had various knee problems since a weird twisty move while wrestling in highs chool . anyway, i'm sure i'm ok, but i thought if someone had similiar 'symptoms' they might offer some ideas that don't involve the going to the doctor (those who ever had liquid in their knees (not sure what the medical term is) know how bad it is to get them drained, and it can easily avoided with some old 'home remedies'. shot in the dark maybe, why not?)

jinxie
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post #13 of 24
3/23/06 at 7:12pm
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Originally Posted by jinx
vlad: , why not?)

jinxie
because you might just follow bad advice.
it happens.
it's the 'net.
there's good and bad skiing advice here, I have no reason to believe that the medical advice will be any more consistent in it's veracity.
that being said,
staying off the knee for a few days can't hurt, nor can taking it easy on it when you get back on it.
or:
tie the comb of a slaughtered rooster to your knee with some nightshade vine.
on midnight of the second day, visit a cemetery and remove the rooster's head, taking care to throw it over your left shoulder.
sleep with a poultice of jimpson weed and swamp clay on it, and in the morning, call a qualified orthopede.
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post #14 of 24
3/23/06 at 7:18pm
lol

you ever visited a doctor in canada? for chronic insomnia (we're talking a few hours of sleep every 3 days or so) the cure was a glass of milk every night. a few weeks later, 3 more hours wasted at the doctor's, 'was it warm milk?' : ..finally asked a buddy, the liter of vodka woked

thanks for the rest, been taking it 'easy' (hated jogging anyway ).

jinx
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post #15 of 24
3/23/06 at 7:24pm
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Originally Posted by jinx
lol

you ever visited a doctor in canada? for chronic insomnia (we're talking a few hours of sleep every 3 days or so) the cure was a glass of milk every night. a few weeks later, 3 more hours wasted at the doctor's, 'was it warm milk?' : ..finally asked a buddy, the liter of vodka woked

thanks for the rest, been taking it 'easy' (hated jogging anyway ).

jinx
right on, jinx.
consider this:
I'm 43, I've had 9 knee surgeries,
and the condition of my knees
have made running/jogging absolutely impossible for the past 5 years.
cherish that jogging when your knee feels better.
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post #16 of 24
3/25/06 at 10:24am
Vlad is right. Have it checked. I am really paranoid about my knees. After playing 20 years of soccer and 15 years of basketball, my knees have taken a pretty good beating. After skiing, my knees really throb. I was convinced I needed my left knee drained and they said I have Jumpers knee .. an inflamed tendon. Now, the back of my knee is having a similar feeling. I was convinced it was time for the knife. Well, apparently you can get bursitis (sp?) in the back of your knee as well.

I said all of that to say: get it checked if you can! Good luck. Chrisfish
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post #17 of 24
3/25/06 at 11:54am
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Originally Posted by vlad
right on, jinx.
consider this:
I'm 43, I've had 9 knee surgeries,
and the condition of my knees
have made running/jogging absolutely impossible for the past 5 years.
cherish that jogging when your knee feels better.
vlad what do you do you keep yourself fit in offseason.biking?
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post #18 of 24
3/25/06 at 1:48pm
i ask because i have had too many surgerys to my lt knee and i won't let them touch my rt. i cannot jog but am doing biking to keep my legs in shape . i hate swimming but it is best for same problem so all i see so far is two options i am sure others have dealt with this also.weight trainiing would work but is not aerobic
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post #19 of 24
3/25/06 at 2:13pm
garry- I am ashamed to say that I rarely (like maybe once very 5 years) ride a bicycle.
I'm also honest (unfortunately) with myself, and I'm aware that, were I to ride a bicycle regularly, I'd likely have very few of these present knee issues.
My offhill time is spent on a motorcycle.
This past ski season I spent MUCH time at Mountain Creek ski resort, hiking uphill several times a day, to the summit, then downloading in the 'gondola' (I actually met BillA on the hill during one of my hikes).

this made an enormous difference. really big difference.
I'll be mountain hiking like crazy this season (they say that's why so few swiss and austrians ever have to stop skiing due to injuries), I hope that helps to keep me in shape.
For all the bellowing I do at people wiyth knee issues, such as my constant suggestions to procure , at least, a Wal-Mart cheap bicycle or a garage sale special, I am idiotically remiss in my own efforts in the velocipede theatre of operations.

Bottom line: Bicycle and hike, esp. hill work. up the steep side, down the easy side. steep downhill hiking can be the end of decent rehab, and make it time for new surgery.
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post #20 of 24
3/25/06 at 2:27pm
the hiking i seemed to overlook, i am near many good hills. idaho.duh. places to explore i haven't taken time to. only been here a year, almost .just gotta keep moving or turn to mush
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post #21 of 24
3/25/06 at 2:31pm
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Originally Posted by GarryZ
the hiking i seemed to overlook, i am near many good hills. idaho.duh. places to explore i haven't taken time to. only been here a year, almost .just gotta keep moving or turn to mush
yeah- or put the ole' side by side to your head a la papa....
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post #22 of 24
3/25/06 at 3:02pm
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Originally Posted by vlad
yeah- or put the ole' side by side to your head a la papa....
ha. stick to the 12oz or you'll get a crick in your neck if you don't adjust ballast
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post #23 of 24
3/25/06 at 3:24pm
idaho's one of the most beautiful places i've ever skied in my life. baldy is such a singular mountain.
always thought it would be like heaven to spend just one season working there....

you know a place called 'garden valley'?
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post #24 of 24
3/25/06 at 8:25pm
looked it up , near boise ,sort of, very nice area . sounds not far from sun valley. they have a web site /you have been there?i intend to explore idaho this summer and i would like to ski around there. higher elevations should mean great snow
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