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Just wanted to send props to SSH for making the Jeff Bergeron boot advice thread a sticky in the Ski Gear Discussion forum. A few days ago, in a PM, I had criticized SSH for moving it from Ski Gear Review to ski gear discussion, a forum that moves fairly fast and would have resulted in the thread being difficult to find. Obviously a public service thread with over 33000 views and 558 posts deserves a place of prominance. Good move Steve!

Many thanks to Jeff as well for providing his time and expertise so freely.
post #2 of 9
Thanks for pointing out that it would quickly disappear in the forum where it really belongs...

Clearly, an excellent public service by Jeff for the members...
post #3 of 9
jeff is the $hit.
Great skier, very technical racer, brilliant coach/ski analyst, and i 'hear tell' he fits a mean boot.
He was my closest ski-brother back in the 80s, and he was a genius even then.
his dad is not, in fact, a bowler......
post #4 of 9
It doesn't take much to be a genious in the bootfitting industry, no offense to Jeff. All it takes is a knowledge of the anatomy of the foot, the many problems people have with their feet, and really caring enough to actually help instead of trying to make it a profitable job.

I worked for a bootfitter for a few years who was and still is one of the best. Passed along all his knowledge to the shop personal and had the reputation to back it up. If we sold you a pair of boots, they fit properly or they would when we were done with them.

Every shop has the potential for this success, most just don't care or can get the personell to care.
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I disagree.

[quote=Lars]It doesn't take much to be a genious in the bootfitting industry, no offense to Jeff. All it takes is a knowledge of the anatomy of the foot, the many problems people have with their feet, and really caring enough to actually help instead of trying to make it a profitable job.
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I disagree.
by 'genius', in my description, i meant it veritably. the guy's got a heavy stanford-benet i-quotient.
further, being a great bootfitter entails far more knowledge than merely that of podiatric anatomy.
A really great bootfitter takes into account overall skeletal alignment and the potential effects that bootfitting can have on that alignment in concert with flat-ski relaxation and edge-readiness. a truly great bootfitter knows when to use weighted footbed-forming or unweighted, and recognizes that there are combinant alignment pathologies such as 'knock-kneed' stance, 'bow-legged' stance, knock-ankled' stance, and bow-ankled' stance, and every permutation of those four issues, and a great bootfitter decides which combinant pathology to tackle through which medium, before tackling the next.
i've seen far too many knock-kneed skiers whom had bowed ankles (the likely corollary of skeletal compensation over the years) whose bootfitters approached one such problem, but not the other.
A truly excellent bootfitter is vigilant in watching for rotational pressures in the boot (in the relaxed state), as a result at-rest of hip-rotation, which is often a result of leg-length disparity, or more commonly, of hip-tilt. The cause and effect can be the reverse as well, and a really efficacious bootfitter can determine the flow of cause and effect and work from there.
Also, there’s a threshold decision which the great bootfitter must formulate with regard to each subject whom prevails upon the fitter for help- which boot for which subject, and, whether to suggest a boot determined by the subject’s morphology, and then customize the boot to fit their ski-style/ability, OR to suggest a boot which suits the subject’s ability/style, and then customize it based upon the subject’s unique morphology.
Without hijacking this entire thread into a treatise on the various hurdles faced by the bootfitter, in the race from mediocre to great, let me add one element which Jeff Bergeron brings to the table, which few others do:
Jeff has been, for around twenty years, a topnotch instructor (he worked with me his very first year of instructing, and we worked together at a few schools in the east, and he instructed at Crystal Mtn., Wa.), a topnotch race coach (he was the director of the A-Basin adult race program) and a winning competitor in the alpine disciplines. If memory serves correctly, he raced successful FIS events at St. Anton, Austria, prior to racing circuits around summit county, co.
The fact that this impeccably qualified and accomplished ski pro offers diagnostic ski runs with his subjects, in order to draw truly first hand analyses of the subect’s various pathologies and idiosyncrasies, and offers follow-up runs to help ‘tweak’ his work, and to offer instruction in overcoming many of the compensatory movements which the subject might have previously employed in order to overcome the original alignment issues, makes him, in fact, a “Bootfitting Genius” regardless of his inordinately high intellect.
The guy is an exceptionally well-rounded ski pro who deserves all such accolades.
Plus… his knowledge of Carpathian folklore and ritual is unparalleled

he is the sir james george frazier of the dark hills to the east
post #6 of 9
As Isaid, and as you described a friend, Les Johnson here in WNY, not a genious or Harvard professor but everything else you described, plus the fact that he cares and takes pride in what he does, and projects that attitude to his employees, who are equally adept in bootfitting as I once was.

Carpathian folklore huh? Transalvania. Where vampires and werewolves hang out and where you know who once reigned terror on his people.
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Originally Posted by Lars
As Isaid, and as you described a friend, Les Johnson here in WNY, not a genious or Harvard professor but everything else you described, plus the fact that he cares and takes pride in what he does, and projects that attitude to his employees, who are equally adept in bootfitting as I once was.

Carpathian folklore huh? Transalvania. Where vampires and werewolves hang out and where you know who once reigned terror on his people.
i don't doubt, for a moment, the genius and veracity of countless other bootfitters, such as les johnson. i just meant to point out that there was more to my descriptor than simple knowledge of podianatomy and integrity. i'm sure les others are down with all of these other qualities as well.
and of course, sometimes les is more....

I'd always used gunnar at granite in squaw. in europe, i stuck with some of the boys at strolz and some little czech cobbler-types.
post #8 of 9
I can attest to Jeff’s expertise…he worked virtual miracles with my boots, alignment and adjustments. He identified structural issues with my legs that orthopods missed. To make a long story short, thanks to his guidance and skill, today I skied terrain that even a month ago I’d never have attempted. And I skied it comfortably and with confidence. New boots, properly fitted and aligned made a world of difference. Jeff, you’re okay in my book! And Vlad, you’re the coolest dude I know!
post #9 of 9
Vlad, are you losing it again?
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