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Reccomend me a good mogul/light powder/free ski

post #1 of 26
Thread Starter 
If one exists... I am looking for a ski to handle some medium-light powder, and also be good in the bums and crud. In advance- I don't want any atomics, salomons, or k2s.
post #2 of 26
nordica hot rods
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Legend 8000's
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Demo the Rossi Bandit B2. It is working for me in these conditions.
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Volkl Karma
post #6 of 26
Thread Starter 
Forgot to mention I want expert skis. Forget the pwder aspect so much, I know wide skis won't handle the moguls well. Maybe I should be looking for more of a mogul/tree ski.
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Solomon Equipe SC
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Elan RIPsticks
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Stockli Laser SC. Not nice in deep soft, ok in soft with a base, and brilliant everywhere else including bumps.
post #10 of 26
Rusty Guy,

Nordica Hot Rods? I wouldn't recomend the TF's. Although these are great front side ski's, and i love mine dearly for groomed and crud, i found them barely adequate for off-piste action in anything over 6-8" of powder. In bumps they were plain nasty - far too unwieldy and stiff IMO, but then again i'm not a good bump skier.

Regards,

redline
post #11 of 26
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Originally Posted by SkiStarr90
Elan RIPsticks
While I don't doubt they are a great ski, why, besides owning a pair, would you recomend them as a bump ski?
post #12 of 26
Head Monster 72.

Peter Keelty's ski of the year in the "all mountain cruiser category". Just got a pair and they are outstanding.
post #13 of 26
Volkl Karma, no question. Without a doubt, the single best ski I've ever been on, and that opinion is shared by several patrollers and pros I ski with. It can handle bumps, crud, trees, and anything else you want to play on. Deep powder is obviously not its specialty, as its only 87 underfoot, but it's not a powder ski. I live in Winter Park and it skies our bumps like a champ (we're not known for the best bumps in North America for nothing!)
post #14 of 26
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Originally Posted by sir jman View Post
also be good in the bums and crud.
never skied in bums before, do you need to shower afterwards?
post #15 of 26
Blizzard Titan 8
Nordie Supercharger Ignition
post #16 of 26
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Originally Posted by SkiMangoJazz View Post
never skied in bums before, do you need to shower afterwards?
Only if there was corn for dinner.
post #17 of 26
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Originally Posted by climbinjunkie View Post
Volkl Karma, no question. Without a doubt, the single best ski I've ever been on, and that opinion is shared by several patrollers and pros I ski with. It can handle bumps, crud, trees, and anything else you want to play on. Deep powder is obviously not its specialty, as its only 87 underfoot, but it's not a powder ski. I live in Winter Park and it skies our bumps like a champ (we're not known for the best bumps in North America for nothing!)
Where do most people mount the Karmas? I was thinking somewhere in the middle between FS and FR. I'd love to hear more about experience skiing them in the bumps.
post #18 of 26
^this came up in another thread.

i have the 05/05 "sandpaper" Karmas and i swear there was only one mark (an "I" on the sidewall) for center-of-boot placement. i've had other's tell me that their Karma's have multiple CoB marks, but mine didn't. this much i know, however, they are mounted for free riding (I would in no way consider the Karma a park ski...i can say i haven't seen anybody riding them as such or mounting them as such as of yet, either)
post #19 of 26
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Originally Posted by dookey67 View Post
^this came up in another thread.

i have the 05/05 "sandpaper" Karmas and i swear there was only one mark (an "I" on the sidewall) for center-of-boot placement. i've had other's tell me that their Karma's have multiple CoB marks, but mine didn't. this much i know, however, they are mounted for free riding (I would in no way consider the Karma a park ski...i can say i haven't seen anybody riding them as such or mounting them as such as of yet, either)
It was probably me who brought it up I tend to revisit issues until I'm satisified..this will probably bring about bad forum Karma..stupid pun intended. Anyway, I think one of the reasons you don't see that many Karmas in the park is because they are expensive and a bit stiff.
post #20 of 26
I'd second the iM72, or the 77, depending how much width you like and just how much powder constitutes "light." Both are very solid all-round skis.
post #21 of 26
I have skied the IM 77 enough to know that I'd personally prefer the Legend 8K or B2 or Fischer AMC 79 in bumps. The IM 77 while absolutely rock solid is not exactly easy going in lumpy conditions. I would rather not get drop kicked into next week if (when) I perform mogul malfeasence.

SJ
post #22 of 26
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Originally Posted by bszekely View Post
Where do most people mount the Karmas? I was thinking somewhere in the middle between FS and FR. I'd love to hear more about experience skiing them in the bumps.

I mounted mine +2cm, and that's perfect. As for moguls, I live in Winter Park so I ski bumps every day, and they're great for it. They're wider than what I would normally consider a bump ski, but because they're so stiff they're really quick edge to edge, so you don't realize that they're not skinny skis. One of my buddies out here skis for Volkl and competes in bumps and he skis the Karma most days too.
post #23 of 26
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Originally Posted by climbinjunkie View Post
I mounted mine +2cm, and that's perfect. As for moguls, I live in Winter Park so I ski bumps every day, and they're great for it. They're wider than what I would normally consider a bump ski, but because they're so stiff they're really quick edge to edge, so you don't realize that they're not skinny skis. One of my buddies out here skis for Volkl and competes in bumps and he skis the Karma most days too.
Is +2cm right in the middle of FS/FR ? I just ordered some 05-06 185's and they are going to mount them right in between. Thanks for the report on skiing Karma's in bumps. I can't wait to try them at killington this winter.
post #24 of 26
Yeah, there seems to be some redundancy creeping in here. So in the spirit, I'll just reiterate what I've said in several other posts on several other threads about nearly the same topic: Owned Karmas, loved their versatility, but not my pick for a bump ski. Too stiff in the front 1/3 of the ski, and frankly, 87mm is not precisely lightning quick edge to edge. Strongly agree instead with others who've recommended Legend 8000's (best do-everything on the planet if you can live with the old-school radius/feel) and I'd add for the east Fischer AMC 76's (carve amazingly well, are very quick edge to edge, and ride up nicely in moderate pow, if you can live with the shovel getting kicked around a bit in heavy chop.)
post #25 of 26
Actually, the Karma is pretty similar in stiffness in the tip as Volkl's bump specific skis, the Dragon Slayer from last year and the Rebellion this year (although the rebellion skis a little more like the Dynastar Twister - Bloom liked that one better). The point of this thread was that Jman was asking for a ski that could handle bumps and powder, and a Fischer that's only 76 underfoot isn't wide enough for powder, and Beyond just told us that it gets kicked around in the crud - the other condition Jman was looking for a good ski for. Obviously the Karma is not a bump specific ski, but it does work amazingly well in them - if you bring your A Game.
post #26 of 26
agreed with the above. Plus, the karmas are just a way more badass ski, and you can ski them switch.
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