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Gondola/Tram from Whistler peak to Blackcomb peak!?!?

post #1 of 16
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I heard there was a proposal to build one. iw would cost a ton of money and would be a record setting span. I was just thinking that this would be a good idea before I heard about it while at whistler. :
post #2 of 16

I wouldn't ride it

unless I wanted to take photos instead of ski. W/B doesn't need it. The tram they're discussing would further the "Disneyfication" of an already hugely commercial resort.

But hey, if people want to waste time taking a tram instead of skiing some of the sweet lines at W/B, then that's OK with me.
post #3 of 16
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Originally Posted by Dino
unless I wanted to take photos instead of ski. W/B doesn't need it. The tram they're discussing would further the "Disneyfication" of an already hugely commercial resort.

But hey, if people want to waste time taking a tram instead of skiing some of the sweet lines at W/B, then that's OK with me.
Wouldn't the idea be to ski P2C from start to finish, then tram back up?

Btw, how does adding a 35th or whatever lift lead to "Disneyfication"?
post #4 of 16

clarification and request for info

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Originally Posted by OldSchool
Wouldn't the idea be to ski P2C from start to finish, then tram back up?
That would be an idea, but that's not how I understood the project would work based on earlier discussions. I understood the tram would go from peak to peak only. If so, then how are people going to take it from the bottom? If I have that wrong, then you have a point, and I guess it will be more valuable. Do you have different info I should read? Thanks.

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Originally Posted by OldSchool
Btw, how does adding a 35th or whatever lift lead to "Disneyfication"?
"Further" the Disneyfication, not lead to it, i.e. the entire resort started as a planned development and they're going to pay millions to add another commercial attraction that does nothing to improve access to skiing. If it doesn't improve access to skiing, then it's like the Monorail or Aerial Tramway at Disneyland. That's not what I go to Whistler to do.

I would prefer not to pay extra money they will add to the cost of a lift ticket to pay for the tram (or, more importantly, waste valuable skiing time) to take a peak to peak tram.
post #5 of 16
Oops! Well, I do like my idea but it was born of misreading the original post. I read it as "Peak to Creek" rather than "peak to peak".

Well, peak to peak?!

That's crazy.

On the other hand it would mean a constant flow of people back and forth in the air, which is to say not on the slopes...
...but I really don't like the aesthetic angle.

I don't see the need, either, other than to satisfy more quickly tourists' curiosity.
post #6 of 16
wind!!!!!!
post #7 of 16
Why? There is no way you'll cover all the terrain in half a day and say well lets see all of the other mountain after lunch. A waste of money!!!
post #8 of 16
Thread Starter 
There were a few times when I was on Whistler and thought about how I would like to be skiing Blackcomb but the 40 minutes trip over wasn't worth it.
post #9 of 16
I hear ya. I kind of like it that way though. Find out where everyone is going and head to the other mountain. Whistler is the best! I miss it, 2 years since I went last. Only place I know you can ski on a saturday and feel alone. Increadible!!
post #10 of 16
The Peak to Peak tram is advertised as being a way to enjoy the best conditions on either mountain. Wouldn't be a bad idea for early or late season when conditions....
post #11 of 16
Would probably cost too much to be worth it, but I don't think it's a *totally* crazy idea.

Sometimes it would be nice to be able to go from Creekside to Blackcomb without having to backtrack to the base. And the mountains can change throughout the day (wind, sun/shadow, crowd).. I can think of a few times recently where I've been way up one side looking longingly over at the other.

Also, sometimes weather/avalanche blasting makes them shut down one peak and not the other... would be nice to quickly tram over to the other side without having to go all the way down (through the crowds) and gondola +chair back up.
post #12 of 16
I live in Whistler and I think the Peak to Peak Tram will be great. Imagine you're on Blackcomb and it doesn't look like Glacier Chair is going to open but Harmony is. Jump on the tram and get over to Whistler. It will change the way we ski here.
post #13 of 16
I think the peak to peak tram is a brilliant idea.

I can't count the number of times I've been at the peak of one the resorts in pea soup fog with 1" visiblity only to hear at the end of the day that the other resort was clear.

Also, as was mentioned before, there have been times where the peak of Whistler was closed, but Blackcomb was open top to bottom. The weather can be drastically different from mountain to mountain, and that alone would make the tram a great feature. Skiing down or downloading, then making your way back up can take over an hour of you day.

I really hope they do it.
post #14 of 16
Maybe W/B could loan Jackson the money so they can replace the tram where it is really needed?
post #15 of 16

I see potential benefits, but...

The locals (and others) have pointed out some benefits of a tram. Very cool. However, I wonder what the tram will cost skiers in the form of a ticket increase. The resort has to recoup the cost somehow.

For instance, would you pay $10 for every lift ticket to have the potential to take the tram (maybe) once a day? Would your answer change if you were skiing the resort 4-7 days in a row? What if the total trip time, i.e. waiting in line and taking the tram took 40 minutes or more?

When I go to W/B, I ski 4-5 days per stay & usually get my tix in Squamish. I'd rather save the $10 every day (if that's the increase to pay for the tram).

Here's a compromise; let the marketplace decide. They can add the "tram benefit" as an option to lift tickets, and let the skiers choose if they want to pay extra for it every day, or as part of a multi-day pass, or whether they want the regular lift ticket. That would be interesting.
post #16 of 16
It would be better to just pay with VISA in the tram line (or pre-buy tram option on ticket/season pass) but that could get messy admin wise and not generate the same cash flow for the resort as across the board increase in rates.

Not sure why a capital project like this is being contemplated if Intrawest is having profitability issues and thinking of selling? Marketing hype I guess.
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