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What's a good tree ski

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Thread Starter 
I am always suprised that no one discusses this topic? As a New England skier, am more interested in responses about tight new england trees with challenging snow then wide open glades in knee deep, but it would be great to hear what western skiers like as well.

I have been choosing all mountain mid-fats, but think they are too stiff and not wide enough.

what are your thoughts???
post #2 of 16
Here in Vermont, the Poplar ia highly regarded as a tree ski. Be sure to remove all the leaves, though, or it won't hold the wax.

Don't even think about white birch - waaayyy too brittle.
post #3 of 16
these are 100% tree: http://www.lightningboards.com/
post #4 of 16
On a more serious note, here is your ski: http://www.skiphantom.com/main.html
post #5 of 16
My B5s are actually surprising good in the tighest of lines at MRG, but I think the M11 would be even better, in tight, bump, powdery(sometime icey remember it is east coast) trees. In fact there is video in the instruction section with me tree skiing.
post #6 of 16
ggreenma,

I am not sure about the east,but I love my 1080's in the west trees. I also had a pair of K2 4500 escapes that did well with the softer shovel. I ski them shorter (160's) so i can get the quickest response. I would stay away from anything too stiff or designed for carving. Find a good all mountain with a softer flex or a good pair of twin tips.
post #7 of 16
Ac4
post #8 of 16
Thread Starter 

howsa about a mantra or a AC3 or 4? or a RX8?

I am thinking something over 84mm at the waist and somewhat short like around 175. Something that is fat enough to float in chopped up pow or other crappy conditions as well as virgin pow. something short for good maneuverability. and something that isn't super stiff.

hmmmm......
post #9 of 16
whatever a good tree skier is riding on.
post #10 of 16
Pocket rockets, Little Big fats
post #11 of 16
Dynastar trouble makers - great all around twin tips that work very well in tight spaces and even provide a little float in powder when needed.
post #12 of 16
I was at Vermont ski North the other day and they had next years Big Troubles, OMG they are nice.
post #13 of 16
Quote:
Originally Posted by oboe
Here in Vermont, the Poplar ia highly regarded as a tree ski. Be sure to remove all the leaves, though, or it won't hold the wax.

Don't even think about white birch - waaayyy too brittle.
This response absolutely made my day - much much better to read than the Bode threads.
post #14 of 16
84 at the waist is the new almost-fat

Seriously (again), the ski that was designed to do exactly what you say is the Phantom Crystal Ship 160cm. Skip the 180s - see the discussion at TGR about them. In general they are a total riot in trees & tight spots. I like them for general messing around as well - they make it worth mining for even a few turns of soft snow. The circumstances I've found them challenging have been boilerplate, breakable crust, and mashed potatos. In the latter two, the challenge comes when the tip gets under the surface - it is so broad that it can be hard to bring to the surface if running at all flat. On boilerplate thay are hard to hook up - and when they do, they can be mighty snappy about it (this can make for comical moments). And forget about big arcs under most situations. On the other hand, they are soft & usually pretty smooth. Make anything soft 5-6 inches or deeper "bottomless". Float over cutup, etc. Turn on a dime. If the groomers are even moderately soft, they will slice total rails going to/from- just for fun.

They were expressly designed for New England dense/steep tree skiing (the website video is too generic - does not do them justice in their real element). Given your stated goals, what more could you want? Some of the other skis mentioned are very versatile, however the Crystal Ship is totally in its element doing what you are asking for - even out here in the PNW.
post #15 of 16
I ski many trees at Mary Jane on my Scott Aztec Pros. Quick turning and stable.
post #16 of 16
I like my Line Darksides at 165cm for trees and bumps, they flex easily and float well in the powder, plus they have been remarkably resilent to damage , especially at MRG
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