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Red River New Mexico next week?

post #1 of 25
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I have a buddy who has free passes and lodging to Red River and next weekend is the only time we can use them. I know the snow has been bad in the south, and Red River has been making snow. Has anybody been there recently? He is a beginner and I do not mind wasting a weekend away on the groomers. We can always go to stay here in Colorado and ski great snow, but free is free.

Also, it looks like there is a pattern of warm days and cold nights. Does this mountain hold the snow well, or does it turn to slush? Thanks for the help.
post #2 of 25
Factor in drive time and gas, it's not free. I haven't been to Red River this year, but it is in the mid 60s in Santa Fe this week. We are expected to get snow by the weekend in NM, but then they've promised us that before. Take your hiking shoes and a good book and if you think of it as not a ski weekend, you may have some fun. Otherwise, stay north.
post #3 of 25
Yup, what mom said. It is really really dry down here. I played golf yesterday and commented to my friend that I've seen more snow on the Sangres in July than there is up there now. I also haven't been to Red River - I avoid it even when there is snow - but it's the same story everywhere down here. There will be some greens and blues to cruise and the conditions will be hard and icy in the AM softening up mid-day.

Anyway, if you enjoy road tripping and getting away for a few days go for it. If you want quality skiing stay close to home.
post #4 of 25
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Originally Posted by MisterK
I also haven't been to Red River - I avoid it even when there is snow.

Anyway, if you enjoy road tripping and getting away for a few days go for it. If you want quality skiing stay close to home.

One of the reasons I am willing to put up with less than ideal conditions is tyhe chance to go somewhere new. I have never been to Red River and, as I underestand it, the tickets are good at Angel Fire as well, but the snow there will be just as bad.

Why do you avoid Red River? Is it because of the size? Or is there something else? Thanks.

ps I will be with two beginners and, even in Colorado, will spend most of my time on the groomers with them anyway.
post #5 of 25
Thread Starter 
I just checked the weather map and there is a chance of snow on Wed and Sat! I will keep my fingers crossed.
post #6 of 25
I avoid Red River because when there is snow here there is much better skiing to be had. That, and (at the risk of offending folks) Red has a bit too much of a "little Texas" atmosphere.

"Where y'all from!!?"
post #7 of 25
Thread Starter 
Now I’m intrigued! Call me naive, but I do not get the Texas reference?

I have been to almost every ski area in Colorado and really enjoy some of the smaller areas such as A-Basin, Monarch, and Sunlight. I like the atmosphere better at these places and was hoping to catch a bit of that in Red River. If I come away with a negative opinion, then it will be a cheap experience as the trip will only cost me meals.

I can always run up the road to Loveland or A-Basin for great snow, so it is not like I am wasting my only vacation. I can also put up with spring conditions. However, I very much prefer skiing on snow rather than rocks and gravel! I am taking my rock skis anyway.
post #8 of 25
The difference between A-Basin, Monarch and Sunlight and a place like Red River is that the small Colorado resorts you mentioned are populated largely by locals. Red River, on the other hand is populated mostly by second home owners and out of state tourists. The biggest percentage of the out-of-staters seem to be from Texas.

Not many locals ski at Red River. It's sort of a Texan enclave. Furthermore, it's not an enclave of urban Texans from Dallas, Houston, Austin etc. It's an enclave of West Texans. These folks represtent oil and cattle money. They are a more redneck breed. Don't get me wrong, they aren't firing guns in the air and fighting in the streets or anything. If anything they are TOO friendly in a down home West Texas sort of way. Where yall from!!???

I am a born and raised Northen New Mexican. We have always made fun of the Texan invaders. We aren't mean to them, but we do point and laugh.
post #9 of 25
As I'm going to be in NM the last week in March, I was thinking of going skiing in Taos. However, I'm aware New Mexico has had a poor season snow wise so far. I was wandering if any of the 'local' have an opinion on the wisdom of this idea? I will have my 6yr old daughter with me who will in Ski School (Taos seems to a good reputation) for teaching).

Should I instead be heading North to Co or UT?
post #10 of 25
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by MisterK
The difference between A-Basin, Monarch and Sunlight and a place like Red River is that the small Colorado resorts you mentioned are populated largely by locals. Red River, on the other hand is populated mostly by second home owners and out of state tourists. The biggest percentage of the out-of-staters seem to be from Texas.

Not many locals ski at Red River. It's sort of a Texan enclave. Furthermore, it's not an enclave of urban Texans from Dallas, Houston, Austin etc. It's an enclave of West Texans. These folks represtent oil and cattle money. They are a more redneck breed. Don't get me wrong, they aren't firing guns in the air and fighting in the streets or anything. If anything they are TOO friendly in a down home West Texas sort of way. Where yall from!!???

I am a born and raised Northen New Mexican. We have always made fun of the Texan invaders. We aren't mean to them, but we do point and laugh.

I get it now. It is sort of like how we poke fun at the spring-breakers from texas in their Carhart jackets and blue jeans. Maybe I should trade in the helmet for a John Deere hat in order to fit in better?
post #11 of 25
Have you been in this part of the world before, Waveski? How skiing centered is your vacation? If you are a serious skier you may want to change your plans and go elsewhere. If you are just thinking of a day or two of skiing as a part of your vacation you should be fine at Taos. The mountains are beautiful and there will almost certainly be some incredible blue sky days. All of the intermediate and beginner runs are open at Taos and the coverage is generally good.

My 13 yo son loves to ski and he lives with his mother in California. I usually fly him out whenever he has a three day weekend from school to ski, plus at X-Mas vacation and Spring break. This year I haven't bothered to fly him out to ski for the long weekends because it doesn't seem worth it given the lack of snow. Instead we went to Crested Butte and Monarch over Christmas, I'm flying him into Salt Lake next week and meeting him at the airport to ski Alta for four days and we are going to Summit County and Vail in April for his spring break. We would get bored skiing whats available here in New Mexico very quickly.
post #12 of 25
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Originally Posted by matt7180
I get it now. It is sort of like how we poke fun at the spring-breakers from texas in their Carhart jackets and blue jeans. Maybe I should trade in the helmet for a John Deere hat in order to fit in better?
You sort of have it, but realise the density of Texans is much much higher at Red River than anywhere outside of Texas itself and Ruidoso. It's like a whole other counrty!
post #13 of 25
MisterK
This will be my first trip to New Mexico and the intention is to spend 6/7 days skiing. Although I am pretty serious skier I've had my 'grown up' holiday and the main purpose of this trip is to spend time skiing with my daughter. Ideally I'm looking for a resort which is reasonably ski in ski out, or at worst a short car/shuttle ride from the slopes.

Taos seems to fit the bill from what I can gather from the web-site. Spring snow conditions will be fine as long as the beginner pistes are not likely to have bare patches. I imagine it will be fine it's just that a couple of people have spooked me by suggesting there will virtually no snow!
post #14 of 25
Actually, Red River is a very sweet, very laid back kind of town and quite picturesque. think Country Western Bar scene. It's fun. We love to make fun of Texans, but they do know how to enjoy life.

Waveski, By the end of March I am hoping things will have changed at Taos. March is our best snow month. But this winter's drought has been truly historic. If you're coming all the way across the pond, you might want to consider further north.

On the other hand, a base without new snow is little better than man-made, so anywhere you plan ahead is a risk. You can always make your home base at Taos and drive to Wolf Creek or Monarch for some deeper snow if it's still bad here. And, if it's blue groomers you're looking for, it won't make any difference anyhow. The ski school is FABULOUS and it will be a low student-teacher ratio!
post #15 of 25
There will be snow and no bare patches on the beginner terrain. Like I said, the coverage is decent all the beginner and intermediate trails. The parts of the mountain that are closed are places that would scare the pants off a six year old beginer anyway.

Another benefit for your young one is it will almost certainly be bright, warm and sunny a good portion of the time you are there - so no cold wet miserable child.
post #16 of 25
Thread Starter 
Waveski,

I agree with Mom on the conditions up north. Summit county has had the est snow in years. I have been to Monarch twice and even in early December they had great snow. If you are going to be in the area for 7 days, if may be worth the drive up to Monarch, and Copper is not far north of that.
post #17 of 25
Matt

How far/long is the drive to Monarch or Copper from Taos?
post #18 of 25
Monarch about 3 hours. Copper about 5. You might also enjoy Crested Butte about 4 hours drive from Taos. If you are flying into Albuquerque and that is not changeable you could drive to CB in about 6.5 hours. It is a beautiful area and one of my favorite places to ski.
post #19 of 25
Matt, I am one of the Texans who returned from RR today. I skied 65 days last year over 30 of them at RR. If you are going to be be skiing with beginners and cruising the groomers there is still plenty of "decent conditions as of today". No powder stashes or anything that remotely resembles ideal conditions but it is definately not icy in the morning yet and there is slush in the afternoon. Terrain is limited but the copper chair still offers some high speed fun cruising. If the expected snow of this week offers 6 or more inches it would improve conditions but not open anymore terrain. Talk to John at Altitudes for some decent wine and food with nary a cowboy hat in sight but avoid Texas Reds. Bull of the woods is still a decent bar with lots of locals. It is small, mainly quiet at night, and very friendly. There are worse things in life than Texans.
post #20 of 25
There are worse things in life than Texans. That's for sure.
post #21 of 25
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Originally Posted by dady8tor
There are worse things in life than Texans.
Darn tootin'! Don't even get me started on Okies. Sounds like you had a nice time dady8tor. I hope Waveski reads your post. I think he'll have a fine time at Taos with his daughter.
post #22 of 25
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Originally Posted by dady8tor
Terrain is limited but the copper chair still offers some high speed fun cruising. If the expected snow of this week offers 6 or more inches it would improve conditions but not open anymore terrain.
Thanks for the update. The place we are staying at is right at the copper chair. It looks like we can walk out the back door to the chair. I was also checking the runs on that side out and thinking they looked like some good cruising runs. We will try Altitudes.
post #23 of 25
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Originally Posted by matt7180
I get it now. It is sort of like how we poke fun at the spring-breakers from texas in their Carhart jackets and blue jeans. Maybe I should trade in the helmet for a John Deere hat in order to fit in better?
You'll need much more than a John Deere hat. Get yourself a bottle of Wild Turkey, a couple of guns, a pickup, 3 of the finest gals on the planet, and an attitude that you'll whip senseless any silly New Mexican that dares to look at you. Don't worry, you won't really have to whip 'em because they're all cowards and will run from you if you properly convey the right attitude. Be sure to remind them that Texans own their very poor state. Rub it in good. Tell 'em God intended for Texans to ski, that's why he gave 'em New Mexico and Colorado. Do all of this and they'll make you mayor of Red River, maybe even president of the chamber of commerce.
post #24 of 25
LOL! You should have finished your post with the patooie paaching sound of chaw spit hitting the cuspidor.
post #25 of 25
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Originally Posted by MJB
You'll need much more than a John Deere hat. Get yourself a bottle of Wild Turkey, a couple of guns, a pickup, 3 of the finest gals on the planet, and an attitude that you'll whip senseless any silly New Mexican that dares to look at you. Don't worry, you won't really have to whip 'em because they're all cowards and will run from you if you properly convey the right attitude. Be sure to remind them that Texans own their very poor state. Rub it in good. Tell 'em God intended for Texans to ski, that's why he gave 'em New Mexico and Colorado. Do all of this and they'll make you mayor of Red River, maybe even president of the chamber of commerce.
Don't firget that carrying a concealed firearm is pirmitted under Texash law, and act accordingly pilgrim! Whatever you do, don't ask anyone "Is that a holster under your Helly Hansen's or are you just glad to see me?"
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