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Soft boots + stiff board ok?

post #1 of 8
Thread Starter 
I'm contemplating getting a snowboard setup. I'm fairly early on the learning curve, but I've taken to it reasonably well in lessons. I hope to get a board that will work for me now but that I can also grow into quite a bit (I don't want to have to buy a new one in 2 years). (This was my strategy in buying skis two years ago, and it's worked pretty well so far.) There are lots of board choices out there, but my question for now is about boots:

If I have a reasonably stiff (freeride) board (perhaps something akin to a Burton Custom, perhaps?), is it ok to have softish boots? I have a possible lead on a good deal on boots, but they are relatively low end Burtons (I can't remember the name; they look kind of like the Moto, but for some reason that name doesn't sound right) and are on the soft side. The sales guy said that soft boots are ok in snowboarding, since the binding area is what you really use to flex the board (as opposed to skiing). In other words, as long as your binding/boot interface is ok, you shouldn't have trouble driving a relatively stiff board with boots that are on the soft side.

Does this ring true?
post #2 of 8
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Originally Posted by skidiver
I'm contemplating getting a snowboard setup. I'm fairly early on the learning curve, but I've taken to it reasonably well in lessons. I hope to get a board that will work for me now but that I can also grow into quite a bit (I don't want to have to buy a new one in 2 years). (This was my strategy in buying skis two years ago, and it's worked pretty well so far.) There are lots of board choices out there, but my question for now is about boots:

If I have a reasonably stiff (freeride) board (perhaps something akin to a Burton Custom, perhaps?), is it ok to have softish boots? I have a possible lead on a good deal on boots, but they are relatively low end Burtons (I can't remember the name; they look kind of like the Moto, but for some reason that name doesn't sound right) and are on the soft side. The sales guy said that soft boots are ok in snowboarding, since the binding area is what you really use to flex the board (as opposed to skiing). In other words, as long as your binding/boot interface is ok, you shouldn't have trouble driving a relatively stiff board with boots that are on the soft side.

Does this ring true?
ah, no. or maybe i just didnt understand what youre trying to say. but soft boots are fine.
post #3 of 8
Thread Starter 
thanks, onstar! let me make sure I understand you, though: soft boots are ok with a stiff board, is that correct?
post #4 of 8
yub
post #5 of 8
skidiver,
What kind of riding do you do (or have aspirations of doing)? That has a lot to do with how stiff you want your boots.

It is a good idea to factor in how many days you want to get out of your boots as well. Low end stuff just doesn't last as long. The last time I allowed myself to get lower end boots, they did not last more than fifty days on the hill without severely packing out. You would actually save money getting better boots in this case.
post #6 of 8
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand, in two days it'll be march, which spells out huge savings on '06 leftover equipment.
also, check out sierratradingpost.com.
they have killer deals on boots.
by and large, if you're a beginner/novice, softer boots will help you to utilize exagerrated movements in your slower riding.
don't start sweating the details....yet
post #7 of 8

What's another name for pirate treaure....Well I think it's bootie...bootie

skidiver,

Phil's question is important. The style and type of riding you intend to experience will help point you in the right boot direction. Here's some general guidelines (and as always there are pro's or great riders who ride something completely different and make it work or like it better, so that's why they're called guidelines):

- hard carving, big mountain - stiffest boot in range
- medium carving, all mountain experience (trees, bumps, etc.) - stiffer boot in range
- all mountain, freestyle (pipe) - moderate to stiffer boot in range
- all mountain, freestyle (jib, jump) - moderate stiffness in range
- freestyle (jib, jump) only - soft to moderate stiffness in range

This should help with some initial direction. I personally like stiff boots for everything I ride. I use Burton Ions and they are not the stiffest in the line, but close to the top. They tend to only soften up slightly after use. I like the stiffer style because precision and power are important to me, forgiveness is not. The boots are still very comfortable.

As far as the sales guy saying bindings do all the work, this isn't always the case. The boot does have an impact on board performance. Board performance is decreased quite a bit when wearing a soft, or mushy boot, no matter how much you "crank down" the bindings.
post #8 of 8
Thread Starter 
thanks, guys. phil and jibster, in response to your questions I've done a lot of research and looked at some gear and tried on some boots and bindings. it's opened up a whole new world of questions for me, so I started a new thread:

http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=38557
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