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Need help purchasing first set of Skis...

post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 
I'm new to this forum, but not skiing.

I mostly do intermediate skiing on the slopes near my area such as Mountain High, Snow Summit, Bear Mountain...

I'm absolutely fed up with those crappy rental skis and the rental boots that never fit right, and am looking to buy my own set.

I have my eye on the Atomic Carv 7.18 or 8.18's from last season since I see them on ebay or other places on clearance at about $200.

My question is, what other skis are good? I only know of Atomic. Also, what's a good economical boot?

post #2 of 11
Forget about the skiis!!Go for boots. I have people comeing in all the time who want to spend around $500 for boots-skiis and bindings. I can put them into a new set for less than $300 and it will be better than any rental they have used , but I tell them to forget that and put thier $$ into the best boot that they can afford and that is appropriate for them. Your boot is the link to your ski , if it can not transmit your intentions to your ski , then the ski is a waste and a good boot will out last a ski. Last year was not the best ski year so there are a lot of last years boots on sale , get into a actual ski shop with a boot fitter and he should be able to find an appropiate boot for you. Inthe " frustrated itermediate" range of boots ( that is an intermediate who wants to become advanced)There are a lot of excellant boots for $300 (last years model).I never advise a boot unless I have seen the foot and know allabout the skier, so the boot fitter you go to should ask a lot of questions and you should have them on for at least 20 minutes and try on at least 3 recomends.And if you are over 25 years old or real serious I would recomend a foot bed , the older you are i recomend a custom bed other wise a generic one is better than what comes with the boot, try the generic off/ the shelf and feel if there is a difference.As far as skiis rent and you will find even the lowest rental ski will perform much better with a real boot, then rent performance skiis (usaly last years demos ) then rent demos and decide what to but next year, you will have 6 month to decide.One suggestion for where you ski , one of thoes ski areas is just one big snow board park , consider renting some twin tips so you can go in the park and get 5 to 10 more feet of air than the snowboarders.Most of our shop is snowboarders , and a couple drive to snow summit for one day trips , that is 12 hours on the road for 7 hours of rideing.GO FOR BOOTS FIRST ! sorry , I am very verbose
post #3 of 11
Atomic would be a good place to start. They have a reputation for making high quality middle of the road skies that perform better than you would expect for the catorgory that they were intended for. You might want to see if you can find a leftover pair of 9.18's. They have proven to be a very versatile ski with a broad performance range. Another ski that I have heard good things about in that group is the K2 Escape 5500, as well as the Dynastar Speed SX.
As far as boots go, almost all the boot companies make a good variety of intermediate level boots at a good price. I think it's more a question of finding a brand that matches your foot.
All in all, I think some of the best values in both boots and skies fall in that mid range catagory. I know that many skiers, including myself, have fallen into the trap of paying top dollar for high end equipment that is more than they need or can handle, when they would have been better served by being more realistic about their performance needs.
Good luck.
post #4 of 11
Thread Starter 
wow, fast responses.

Anyways, Thanks, I'll look for some decent boots. ANYTHING has got to be better than rental boots.

The thing is, boots are so darn expensive. I can't spend more than $500 on a decent set of everything... boots, bindings, skis, poles... maybe a little bit more.

I found a new set of last season 9.18 with Atomic Device 412 bindings for about $300. How does that sound? is trying to find a $150 boot that's decent going to be a problem?
post #5 of 11
Thread Starter 
Also, I'm 5'10" and 150lbs, would I be able to use a 9.18L ski?

it's about $70 cheaper than the 9.18, and 170 length. (the 9.18 is 190)

I usually use a 170 or 180 ski.
post #6 of 11
Hi Az,
Welcome on board!
Let me reiterate what has been said above. Get boots. If your budget doesn't stretch far enough then rent skis this year, and buy next. You will benefit more as a skier from good, well-fitted boots than you would from good skis.
If you insist on buying skis, given your height, weight and ability, the maximum length I would consider would be a 170. One of the reasons the shop has 190s in stock is because they are just too much for most people (OK, if you're 6'6", 300lb, and an expert, maybe they're not too long).
Go short, my friend, but invest in boots first off.

post #7 of 11
Another vote for the boots. The absolute most important thing then about the boots is to get the right size and a good fitting done by someone who knows what they are doing (stay away from the big chain stores for this). The most common mistake is to buy boots the same size as your shoes - when they pack out after a few days of skiing, they become too loose and are worthless. Think about 1 size smaller than your shoe size for starters - and remember that the boots will loosen up some after a few days skiing -THIS IS ESPECIALLY TRUE FOR BEGINNER AND INTERMEDIATE LEVEL BOOTS. Stay away from Dalbello. Spend something more than $150 (and extra on top of that for a fitting session and footbed, about $100). You can get excellent skis cheap either on Ebay (we've all bought a pair or two there) or at Cupolo Sports (csports@sprint.ca) where we all have also bought a pair or two of skis.
post #8 of 11
Thread Starter 
What's wrong with Dalbello boots? I tried a few on at the store and they feel fine to me.

I actually went out to the sale today and bought some equipment. I can always return it though. =)

here's what I got:

-Dalbello crx 8 extreme (the red ones)
-Tyrolia TD 8 TS Bindings
-Atomic 8.18L 170cm Skis
-Scott Series 3 aluminum poles

I tried on several boots on the table, and these were the only ones that fit me snug all around. some were too tight here and there, etc. And these have the ski/walk/carve flex settings which when I tried it on, had a somewhat noticeable flex differrence. retail is $300, but I got them for $50. They're probably a year or more old, but they're new, and hey, they were CHEAP.

QUESTION about the bindings... These are a step above the LD 100 Carve ABS bindings, but they're in 2 pieces. Do I need to get a plate for them?? I forgot to ask the guy at the store. If so, which one should I get? or should I return them and just get the marker bindings? The Marker bindings are the ones that retailed for $180 I believe... forgot model, but they've got that plate. Both are $99, the Tyrolis LD 100 Carve ABS were $69.

I know they're women's model, but they're the only ones that were unmounted and in my size. So I can mount the bindings in the regular mens spot. The Atomic 9.18 were 180 and 190 only, but included the device 418 bindings. The 9.18 w/ device 418 were $399, and the 8.18 were $199.

Poles cost me $25, retail $65
Total, I paid just a tad over $400, which I liked. The only thing I'm worried about is mounting the bindings and if I need a plate or not as stated above.

Thanks for all your input!
post #9 of 11
You shouldn't need any riser plates for the bindings, just make sure you get a good shop to fit them. (when you go to get the bindings fitted, you'll need to take a boot with you as well)
Now, after that, go out and have fun!

post #10 of 11
I second what everyone else has been saying. It seems to me that you might need the advice of a good bootfitter, if you have one in your area. I routinely see good, high quality left over from last season boots at amazing prices when I'm in and out of the shops. If you don't have a good shop near you, you might be better off to wait till your first trip of the season and plan on spending some time shopping around at the resort. There is usually a good selection of stores near the mountain, and the guys that work there are usually more savy than your local chain stores. And for gosh sakes, stay away from those 190's!
post #11 of 11
Listen to DONDA and Fox Hat! Boots! boots! boots! You do not want to be in pain. Things to remember- regardless of how good they feel in the shop, they need to pack out. 3 full days of good, hard skiing will do it. Wear them around the house as well. This helps to break them in. After the 3 days there still might be fitting issues. You might have to modify them.

Only 10% of people in the USA can get into and ski a boot right out of the box without modification. These are hard cold stats. after the break in period, then get some SuperFeet inserts. It will be like breaing in the boot all over again, but it's worth it.
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