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post #31 of 46
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Originally Posted by Manus
Something A$$holes Always Buy - I said this joke to my old boss, then remembered she drove a SAAB - oops
Funny, but not even close...

It's actually Swedish Aerospace...
Thier main buisness is building fighter planes. Right now they are trying to market the new models with the slogan "with jet-fighter in it's genes" here!
post #32 of 46
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Originally Posted by Tele-Swede
Funny, but not even close...

It's actually Swedish Aerospace...
Thier main buisness is building fighter planes. Right now they are trying to market the new models with the slogan "with jet-fighter in it's genes" here!
Over here it's "Born from jets"

Sorry for turning this into a Saab thread!
post #33 of 46
The Outback sport is a real decent little car, but the looks have never appealed to me. Probably because they took a regular Impreza wagon and butched it up (BTW, I used to own a WRX and have an Outback XT now). But otherwise it's a decent vehicle. Also look into the Forester. Despite being based on the same Impreza platform, it has a slightly bigger feel, cruises better on the highway, and offers more utility and a more comfortable driving position. My wife had an 03 Forester and it was a great car, and a lot of fun to drive. We once got 28mpg on a Christmas trip with three adults, luggage, and gifts. I thought that was pretty good. My Outback XT, on the other hand, has the turbo motor and I nenver break above 22-23mpg.

BTW, head gasket and clutch issues seem to have been licked as of the late 03 and early 04 model year. I don't know of any issues common in more recent Subarus. I have owned five Subarus and they have all been bulletproof.
post #34 of 46
Saab's are one of the the worst cars on the road. If you want unreliability buy a Saab.
post #35 of 46

bad maintain

both my buddies had subarus in the shop all the time. i drove a sweet audi a4 for 3 yrs. destroyed snow. sweet for mtn drives too. i heard they are always in the shop too though, apparently i was lucky with mine. i test drove a wrx and it felt cheap as hell on the inside. so did the nissans i drove, but i hear they are sweet trucks. xterra is suv of year again, i think. i drive 2005 truck o year, tacoma. sweet.

HOW ABOUT A MIATA?
sorry bro, but i still think that is funny
post #36 of 46
I've wondered about the Saabarus and Subasaabs, but that's an old, old GM habit. And you can argue the relative merits of different drive trains for the AWDs until you slide into the ditch, unless . . .

you are driving on good tires. Tires are, after all, where the rubber meets the road. The right tires make a huge difference when you are driving on anything other than dry pavement. I'll put money on FWD with good tires over 4WD and cheapos anyday (particularly when the 4WD is disengaged to save on gas).

So much for the sermon on tires. It also helps to know how to drive in the mountains.
post #37 of 46
Close to trading in my 2002 outback for wrx wagon 2005 leftover.....will I comprimise performance in deep snow???....I had never heard that until I read this thread.....test drives have been on dry pavement....wow!!!

I don't want to give up subaru capability in snow tho....

Atown313...I am on subaru #4....bought a 1990 legacy ls wagon as soon as they came out and had one ever since.

You want a subaru for skiing lifestyle. You can trust me on this.
post #38 of 46
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Originally Posted by hrstrat57
You want a subaru for skiing lifestyle. You can trust me on this.
That's what I told him.:
post #39 of 46
Oh, Phil,
you can climb the hill,
in an Audi.
Trust me.
post #40 of 46
we have a 99 subie outback wagon. reliability has been great. I like the legacy-based cars better than the impreza-based cars. We've had experience with both.

note - (legacy) outbacks are built in Indiana by US autoworkers. I know Subaru is a Japanese corporation. But as long as it's employing US workers, I don't feel so bad about "not buying american."

Note also: GM owns a stake of Fuji Heavy Industries - the parent company of both Subaru and Isuzu. Isuzu is kind of on the way out now, but they are generally sold and serviced by GM dealerships. GM also owns Saab. GM brokered the marriage between Saab and Subaru so that Saab could quickly have a smaller, less expensive model to sell in their dealerships (the 9-2 mentioned above).

The lines are quite blurry when you try to think about nationalism and consumer products.
post #41 of 46
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Originally Posted by sno'more
Oh, Phil,
you can climb the hill,
in an Audi.
Trust me.
We just got rid of a A4 Avant 2.8 5sp. that I ran with 4 Hokkalpittas, I swear it was part mountain goat. Wasn't any better than any Subie I had, other than being more expensive to maintain.
post #42 of 46
Okay, Phil, yes. Audi's are more expensive. You got me there, buddy.

But come on, admit it. I'm right about the tires. Really good tires--and the right drive train--put you on the hill, instead of in the ditch. I've been both places, and you want to be on the hill.

And subies are great cars. Not to, but well, they purr . . .
post #43 of 46
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Originally Posted by Wolfman
Note also: GM owns a stake of Fuji Heavy Industries - the parent company of both Subaru and Isuzu.

Isuzu was never a part of Fuji Heavu Ind. (FHI), although Isuzu has (and may still be) part owned by GM. The only auto company under FHI has been Subaru.

GM had a stake in FHI, but they sold it back a couple months ago. Toyota acquired part of this, and is now planning several joint projects with Subaru, including producing some Toyotas at Subaru-Indiana-Automotive (SIA).

Craig
post #44 of 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by skier219
Isuzu was never a part of Fuji Heavu Ind. (FHI), although Isuzu has (and may still be) part owned by GM. The only auto company under FHI has been Subaru.

GM had a stake in FHI, but they sold it back a couple months ago. Toyota acquired part of this, and is now planning several joint projects with Subaru, including producing some Toyotas at Subaru-Indiana-Automotive (SIA).

Craig
GM still owns Saab and is riding out the 9-2x contract for another year or so. After next year there will be no more 9-2x (Saabaru).
post #45 of 46
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Originally Posted by Tele-Swede
Yeah, Saab's are great...
BTW: Little trivia for you... Do you know what Saab is short for?


"Svenska Aeroplan Aktiebolaget", or

"Swedish Airplane Company" in English.

SAAB, originally an aircraft manufacturer, branched out into aluminum boats for a short while after WWII but then got into cars. The aircraft company is still Swedish owned and makes great jets. GM now owns the SAAB automobile operation. Last I heard the 9-3 and 9-5 are still being produced in Sweden and the 9-3 convertible, in Finland.

I'm something of a SAAB fan.

I hope this means that, if correct, that I win a skiing trip to Åre.
post #46 of 46
Next weekend, Loveland is saving the 100 parking places in the front row of their lot for Subarus only. So buy one quickly and you can get in on this awesome opportunity! (Of course, there will be 1000 Subarus vying for those spots each day. )

btw, Saab was running an ad on the Olympic broadcasts showing a car driving down a runway with a jet taking off, with the "born from jets" motto. In medium-sided print at the bottom it said something like "we no longer make the jets". Hilarious...
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