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Koznick over Mancuso in Olympic Slalom? Idiotic!

post #1 of 19
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How could the US Team choose Koznick over Julia for the SL- knowing that Koz has a blown ACL and can barely ski- her run was a joke and a waste. Yes I feel bad for her and she deserved a chance but be serious! What was the point?

Again a poor US performance- Tiger ears more important than skiing fast....

Sad
post #2 of 19
Kristina Koznick is not a member of the US Ski Team.

It's unclear whether the team had the ability to pull Kristina from the race. Even if they did have the power, it was the last race of her career..she is retired - perhaps the 2nd best (Tamara McKinney) American woman gate skier of the modern era. Mancuso is 21, had already skied in 3 events with mediocre results, is not a medal threat in SL, and has at least 2 more Olympiads left in her career.

If the team was involved in the decision, they did the right thing, IMO.

Agreed that Resi Steigler's tiger ears, like Julia' silly tiara, need to go.
post #3 of 19
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Originally Posted by troutman
Agreed that Resi Steigler's tiger ears, like Julia' silly tiara, need to go.
What is wrong with the tiger ears? I thought they were cute. I'll guess that you'd find a lot of world-class athletes with pre-race rituals and / or mementos that anybody else would find bizarre.
post #4 of 19
Please tell me that those ridiculous tiger ears are not allowed in Olympic competition. Or that stupid tiara, or any other tool of self-promotion.

These things are nothing like other athletes' mementos or pre-event rituals. They are clearly meant to draw attention and are a marketing product - other athletes' rituals and memebtos are not paraded around, begging for attention.

The ears and tiara, etc. reflect very badly on the teams.
post #5 of 19

apples and oranges? maybe.

I used to think Glen Plake's mohawk was plain old stupid.

Now I see the brilliance of it.
post #6 of 19
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Originally Posted by jamesk
How could the US Team choose Koznick over Julia for the SL- knowing that Koz has a blown ACL and can barely ski- her run was a joke and a waste.
I'm not sure you quite have the full background on this.

Mancuso automatically qualified for the slalom, based on objective criteria, but she chose not to race. Partly to prepare for the GS (the stated reason), and (I think) partly to open a spot for Sarah Schleper.

Koznick also qualified automatically on the objective criteria. I don't think the team could pull her from the race. Possibly, they might have cited her injury and taken her out. However, Koznick has had a very long career, and has been the US's top slalom racer during most of it. This was very likely the last race of her career. Given the history of the relationship between her and the USST, letting her decide whether to race or not was clearly the right thing and the classy thing to do.

And: I think Resi's ears are cool. The tiara is a little more out there, but it's okay too.

Resi has been wearing the ears for over a year, so they shouldn't exactly be news.
post #7 of 19
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Originally Posted by sjjohnston
Koznick has had a very long career, and has been the US's top slalom racer during most of it.
Self-correction: I was too hesitant.

Koznick has been the US's top slalom racer during all of her career. She has been the top US skier in the WC slalom standings every year from 1994-95 to this year.
post #8 of 19
I have no problem with Koznick, she earned the slot and had to know that she wouldn't be competitive. As for Mancuso's tiara, I thought it was all in fun but it would have looked better on a helmet.
post #9 of 19
Career WC podiums in SL, for the women technical skiers on the Olympic team:

20 Koznick
3 Schleper
0 Stiegler
0 Kildow
0 Mancuso
0 Richardson
post #10 of 19
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Originally Posted by OldSchool
Please tell me that those ridiculous tiger ears are not allowed in Olympic competition. Or that stupid tiara, or any other tool of self-promotion.

These things are nothing like other athletes' mementos or pre-event rituals. They are clearly meant to draw attention and are a marketing product - other athletes' rituals and memebtos are not paraded around, begging for attention.

The ears and tiara, etc. reflect very badly on the teams.
I'm not familair with the tiara issue that somebody apparently wears, but one racer definitely had tiger ears on her helmet in the slalom last night. I will admit that I don't really follow ski racing, although I have heard of some of the bigger names (Rahlves, Bode, Kostelic, Pearson, Maier, and Raich), which I'm guessing is five more names then most people could name, and up until the infamous 60 minutes interview, six more.

My point: if she's wearing tiger ears as a self-promotion tactic, it isn't working. If it wasn't for this thread, I wouldn't know the name of the racer who wears them (apparently that was Resi Steigler). I just figured that she had been wearing tiger ears since her junior racing days and has never given them up.
post #11 of 19
There is a time and a place to look silly and act goofy But IMHO its not the Olympics
post #12 of 19
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Originally Posted by KevinF
I wouldn't know the name of the racer who wears them (apparently that was Resi Steigler). I just figured that she had been wearing tiger ears since her junior racing days and has never given them up.
They are an endorsement. The company that makes them pays her to wear them. On those grounds, the IOC didn't let her wear them in the combined SL (she wore faux pearls instead,) but she appealed, won, and was rockin' the ears in the regular SL.
post #13 of 19
A certain decorum may be called for in the Oympics, concerning some stupid behaviors, such as wearing Halloween accesarries, and shaking their rearend at the end of their turn.

On the otherhand, maybe it all doesn't matter as long as you're cool: .
post #14 of 19
Picabo said it best this morning on the TODAY Show- "immature and unprofessional" Certainly embarrasing. If I was POC (Julia's Helmet supplier) I would go ballistic.
post #15 of 19
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Originally Posted by troutman
They are an endorsement. The company that makes them pays her to wear them. On those grounds, the IOC didn't let her wear them in the combined SL (she wore faux pearls instead,) but she appealed, won, and was rockin' the ears in the regular SL.
Just for the record:

Resi has worn the ears in slalom events for several years.

Her childhood nickname was "Tigger", after the Winnie the Pooh character, because she was always on the move and always active. "Tigger" got shortened to "Tiger" when her racing career started to take off and she put the ears on the helmet as part of that nickname.

The Kelloggs sponsorship came along very recently (last fall, I believe) when some extremely intelligent marketing person put tiger ears, Tony the Tiger, and a young, attractive, talented ski racer together and decided to build a marketing campaign around it.

Resi was the youngest woman racer in the top 15 of the Olympic women's slalom and she's been skiing partially injured most of this season. In my book, that's not too bad.
post #16 of 19

Oly SL girls

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Resi was the youngest woman racer in the top 15 of the Olympic women's slalom and she's been skiing partially injured most of this season. In my book, that's not too bad.
Resi was asleep at the wheel the first run like alot of the girls. This was the first time I had seen her ski and I was not impressed. The second run I saw what all the fuss is about as she really laid one down (8th fastest). Another story is Schleper who is visibly stiff after back surgery yet placed 10th.

- Fossil
post #17 of 19
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Originally Posted by Bob Peters
Just for the record:

Resi has worn the ears in slalom events for several years.

Her childhood nickname was "Tigger", after the Winnie the Pooh character, because she was always on the move and always active. "Tigger" got shortened to "Tiger" when her racing career started to take off and she put the ears on the helmet as part of that nickname.

The Kelloggs sponsorship came along very recently (last fall, I believe) when some extremely intelligent marketing person put tiger ears, Tony the Tiger, and a young, attractive, talented ski racer together and decided to build a marketing campaign around it.

Resi was the youngest woman racer in the top 15 of the Olympic women's slalom and she's been skiing partially injured most of this season. In my book, that's not too bad.
Yup, I knew most of that. What's the point? (For the record, of course.)

I only mentioned that the ears were an endorsement because nobody who had yet posted seemed to be aware of it. I really don't care either way.

It does bring up a question. Since they are an endorsement, why did she get to wear them (after some sort of 'appeal') and Bode can't have Barilla on his helmet?
post #18 of 19
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Originally Posted by troutman
Since they are an endorsement, why did she get to wear them (after some sort of 'appeal')?
Because they're not a trademark. Or, to put it differently, they're a Resi Stiegler trademark, not a Kellogg's trademark. The key, I think, is that she started wearing them without any connection to Kellogg's. She wore them all last year on helmets dramatically emblazoned with her old headgear sponsor's (Pepsi / Mountain Dew) colors and marks.
post #19 of 19
I have no problem with her tiger ears. Heck, Picabo raced with a tiger painted on her helmet, why exactly is this different? Because it's 3D????
Baseball players have rabbit's feet in their pockets or whatever. Maybe she feels she performs better with this get up. It's not like she was in a clown outfit!
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