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Bizarre feature request

post #1 of 29
Thread Starter 
Here's a weird one.....

You can put folks on an ignore list......but....... can you tell who has you on their ignore list? How about in your profile, a button that shows you all users that are ignoring you?

So what do people think, good, bad, irrelevant?
post #2 of 29
What makes you think they'd want you to know? I don't think it's a good idea. It could lead to escalation as a result.
post #3 of 29
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post #4 of 29
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Originally Posted by vlad
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About what are you asking?

Or just padding your post count?
post #5 of 29
Thread Starter 
You think folks would ramp up the attacks?

I think it would have the opposite effect. Imagine someone in the school yard, with fingers in your ears saying to you "I'm not listening... Hum hum". You would'nt escalate, you'd just give up trying.
post #6 of 29
BigE, you went to a different school than I did! I think it more likely that one person would circle around behind, pull the hands away, and another would yell in their ears!

But, I don't think it's possible with vBulletin, anyway. Let me see, though.
post #7 of 29

nice play Big E!!!

BigE

Nice signature to fabulous ski instruction/demo videos!!!! A personal sticky! I like it!!! I stopped posting www.amsao.it - why it was controversial I don't know....I tried to get some MA when the skiing got criticized...SSH was pretty much the only one who bit....whatever - works for me. Best visuals I have seen on the internet...the Canadien stuff is good too....

I got lotsa folks on my ignore list....could care less if they know it or not....I sure I'm on a few ignore lists as well...again could care less knock yourself out...

If not for the ignore list....I would be gone...took me a while to figure that out. Life on epic is good now. Make ignore list public....I think you propose a good idea...maybe if someone know they were on 177 ignore lists they'd think about modifying their tone and content.

Then again, maybe they'd get off on it...the true troll probably would. We got a few of those....
post #8 of 29
I can't find a way to view users' ignore lists even from the administrator panel, so I don't think that there's a way to do make it visible for users. I'll look over on the vBulletin forums when I get a chance, tho...
post #9 of 29
hrs: maybe a "number of people ignoring you" pop-up when folks come to the site?
post #10 of 29
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Originally Posted by ssh
hrs: maybe a "number of people ignoring you" pop-up when folks come to the site?
Bring it on Steve! Like it...:

Also appreciate the job you are doing....with all due respect you can keep the moderator job

Thanks SSH!
post #11 of 29
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Originally Posted by ssh
hrs: maybe a "number of people ignoring you" pop-up when folks come to the site?
Oh, I like that. Wait a minute, that would mean I'd find out how many people were ignoring me. Hummmm, would that or would that not make me cry. Hummmmm, I gotta think about this one for awhile.

Mommy, Mommy, those people out there are being nasty to me.

What are they doing, honey.

They, sniff, they, sniff, sniif, ... they're ignoring me. BAWAHHHHHHHH!!!
post #12 of 29
I've been thinking about activating user reputations, too, to help with the overwhelming number of contributions we're getting. But that'll take some time, too.

Thanks for the vote of confidence... It means a lot!
post #13 of 29
User reputations??? What's that?? (ssh this isn't my normal wiseass remark. I'm actually asking the question about how the software works.)

By the way, I second the notion that you are doing a good job.
post #14 of 29
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Originally Posted by T-Square
They, sniff, they, sniff, sniif, ... they're ignoring me. BAWAHHHHHHHH!!!
The way things have been going here over the last year or so, your response isn't too far off from what I'd expect from some of our posters.
post #15 of 29
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Originally Posted by Coach13
The way things have been going here over the last year or so, your response isn't too far off from what I'd expect from some of our posters.
Man, I just do crap like that for the humor in it. I'm amazed how some of the people that post here actually take themselves so seriously. I come here for the info on skiing and to expand my knowledge base. There are some really smart people that post here.

My biggest fear is that the idiots that yell and scream have and will drive off the smart people.
post #16 of 29
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Originally Posted by T-Square

They, sniff, they, sniff, sniif, ... they're ignoring me. BAWAHHHHHHHH!!!
I've often wondered why they don't offer a "cry baby" smiley
post #17 of 29
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Originally Posted by T-Square
Man, I just do crap like that for the humor in it.
I understood your statement was made in jest.
post #18 of 29
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Originally Posted by T-Square
Man, I just do crap like that for the humor in it. I'm amazed how some of the people that post here actually take themselves so seriously. I come here for the info on skiing and to expand my knowledge base. There are some really smart people that post here.

My biggest fear is that the idiots that yell and scream have and will drive off the smart people.
Thank you!
To those of you who are intelligent, humorous and sensible! There are so few idiots but they do seem to MAKE THE MOST NOISE, Don't they?
I'm just smart enough to know that I'm not that smart!
post #19 of 29
Mamm, you're welcome.
post #20 of 29
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Originally Posted by T-Square
My biggest fear is that the idiots that yell and scream have and will drive off the smart people.
To a non-trivial degree, they have. That's something that I would love to have ideas about how to remedy!
post #21 of 29
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Originally Posted by T-Square
User reputations??? What's that??
vBulletin (the software that runs EpicSki's forums) has an ability to maintain and show user reputations. So, for example, since I find Arcmeister, Rick, Bob Barnes, Nolo, and many others to be very reputable and useful contributors to EpicSki, I could increase their reputation by noting that fact. Then, when others see a post by one of them, they could look at their reputation and note that there is a community value placed on them. The opposite would also be true.

There are downsides, of course, including that those who would like to aggitate could do so by manipulating the reputations (admin can override reps, though! ). So, I'm thinking about it, but haven't discussed it with the rest of the EpicSki team. Your input is welcome.
post #22 of 29
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Originally Posted by ssh
To a non-trivial degree, they have. That's something that I would love to have ideas about how to remedy!
Tough question. Have you tried asking those that seem to have backed off why they did?

You could start the message, "You have been a significant contributor to the Barking Bear Forums. Now, we noticed that you no longer are participating at your previous level. Has there been a problem with the forum or the particpants on it? What can we do to make it place where you want to participate?" Or words similar. There have to be some Bears out there that are smarter than me in working out something like this.

Your recent bannings have been a step in the right direction. Also, the way the Lounge has been divided has helped for me. You might want to stress to the users that the IGNORE button is available and teach us how to use it. Maybe a sticky in this section of the site.

Also, some warnings about not feeding the trolls. Although they can offer some interesting diversions at times. However, the main thing is that the users have to do some self policing of the site. The shunning that occured last year did have some positive effects and slowed some of the idiocy down.

I like the reputation thingee. It should help a little. Also, (don't take this wrong), it will massage the psyches of those with the higher reps. It might make them stick around through some of the rough spots.
post #23 of 29
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Originally Posted by T-Square
Tough question. Have you tried asking those that seem to have backed off why they did?

You could start the message, "You have been a significant contributor to the Barking Bear Forums. Now, we noticed that you no longer are participating at your previous level. Has there been a problem with the forum or the particpants on it? What can we do to make it place where you want to participate?" Or words similar. There have to be some Bears out there that are smarter than me in working out something like this.

Your recent bannings have been a step in the right direction. Also, the way the Lounge has been divided has helped for me. You might want to stress to the users that the IGNORE button is available and teach us how to use it. Maybe a sticky in this section of the site.

Also, some warnings about not feeding the trolls. Although they can offer some interesting diversions at times. However, the main thing is that the users have to do some self policing of the site. The shunning that occured last year did have some positive effects and slowed some of the idiocy down.

I like the reputation thingee. It should help a little. Also, (don't take this wrong), it will massage the psyches of those with the higher reps. It might make them stick around through some of the rough spots.
This is really good stuff from t sq. I endorse nearly every word of it, I wish I could be so eloquent.....

I lurked about four years before joining and I nearly bailed a few times in the past year, but in retrospect I overreacted to trolls and hateful tone.....lurked extensively for a while after a bad bit with a troll and lurked again when a member who had been banned for spewing hateful comments was allowed back...I enjoy epic a lot and have made quite a few good friends here...As a 40+ yr ski vet and former ski pro I feel I bring a bit to the table too(don't we all tho?)

The good continues to outweigh the bad...but the bad is gaining......

I like t sq's ideas.....perhaps it is time to bring the hammer down......I'd like to see more diligence in preventing previously banned members from re appearing...both on the forum and of course in person.....

I do miss UC/ Gonz tho.....at times he actually was helpful in policing the site a bit IMO.....

The PSIA/PMTS flame wars this summer particularly troubled me....unfort tho I was mesmerized by it....should have ignored it instead...

BTW I have seen and studied in detail both of HH "expert skier" videos and have extensive thoughts on PMTS and what I have seen and applied on the slopes....

I am afraid to post for fear of starting another flame war......even though my comments would be positive and strictly observation....

I think that's a shame......
post #24 of 29
hrstrat57,

I understand your hesitancy in getting into the PSIA/PMTS flame wars. I wish we could get them back into the arena of spirited debates. There is a lot to be learned from many different styles of teaching and skiing. (Even Taichi; yeeech, I didn't say that did I? : Beat me with a wet noodle.) I'm a proponent of both, there are good things to be used in both systems that will help me be a better teacher.

Those flame wars bothered the hell out of me. There are grenade throwers on both sides of that one. I tried to calm some of those down to no effect.

Some people here need to step back, take a breath, and remember that ITS ONLY SKIING, IT AIN'T LIFE OR DEATH. : Then come back to the forums and be courteous to the other members. Discuss things, get passionate about them, but keep it professional. Above all, get your sense of humor plugged in, recharged, or whatever and use it.

Hey, if you can't do it for some reason, then go out and SKI, DAMN IT.: You might find the break refreshing and it might get you centered in your life again.

I love this sport. I commune with God and nature through it. Most of my closest friends are adaptive ski instructors like me. This forum has been a great resouce for me and has actually helped me though some difficult times. I hate to see this forum degraded by a bunch of senseless idiots.




Now that we have totally hijacked this thread, we return you to your previous program.
post #25 of 29
T-squared, thanks. Those are some great thoughts. I'll work on that as time allows (perhaps after the season ends at this rate!).

hrs, "policing" is a tone that I'd like to avoid. This is a community, and it's my personal desire to see us grow as a mutually-beneficial society. The challenge is how we work together so that the good grows and the bad is effectively discouraged without the too-typical Internet flame wars providing the tool.

Regarding some of the "discussions" that have degraded into less-than-helpful back-and-forth, I am not sure what to do about that. I have participated in some of those, and folks have read my posts that way when that was the furthest thing from my mind. It's been very interesting to see how emotional some threads get, and how the emotions of the reader(s) color the reading of others and place meaning where there wasn't any.

One of the many challenges of the medium. Let's go ski...
post #26 of 29
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Originally Posted by T-Square
I understand your hesitancy in getting into the PSIA/PMTS flame wars. I wish we could get them back into the arena of spirited debates.
I worked really hard to try to keep them spirited debates, but even then I felt some thought I was taking sides. That wasn't my intent. Any thoughts on how we might do that are also explicitly solicited.
post #27 of 29
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Originally Posted by T-Square
I understand your hesitancy in getting into the PSIA/PMTS flame wars. I wish we could get them back into the arena of spirited debates. There is a lot to be learned from many different styles of teaching and skiing. (Even Taichi; yeeech, I didn't say that did I? : Beat me with a wet noodle.) I'm a proponent of both, there are good things to be used in both systems that will help me be a better teacher.
Bottom line is this.....I don't subscribe to any dogma, if it works for me I use it. I did this as an instructor and I still do it as a skier. Unlike most of the dart throwers I have cut through the crap and actually watched the PMTS dvd's and studied them in detail recently. I could share my detailed comments and my experience. I could break it all down clearly.

But I won't....

BTW my 12 year old is watching HH 2 right now as we speak....why?

Cause focusing on the LTE works.

She watched the Italian demo team www.amsao.it too.

I will share with anyone anytime....but not if I am going to get a bloody nose for doing it. I continued to suggest the Italian demo team as a good free video for those jumping into new technology. I got told it was ok skiing....but no one could show me anything better(tho the Canadien demo team link is good too)

Epic should be about sharing. The gear and trip discussions are mostly civil(occasional flames about ski length but that entertains me) The technique forum is more about dogma and hidden agenda. Until it changes I'm not playing anymore.

Poach of thread over....out.

see signature below....
post #28 of 29

Bizarre feature request

"penalty box" - PM posting only
post #29 of 29
Thanks Steve for all your hard work! I l learn something good every time I visit! Time is a very special commodity we all wish we had more of.
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