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Skiercross Skis

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Thread Starter 
Well, Ive been skiing and winning skiercross events for about 2 years now, and I've been doing it on K2 Axis X, which isnt a bad ski, and i enjoy the hold it has on hardpacked, but I want to focus in on Skiercross and start to race more events next year. Can anyone give me any advice on skiercross skis, or should I stay with the k2's.

Thanks,
VirginiaCliff
post #2 of 15
Atomic - 1. SX B5
2. SX 11

Volkl - 1. Supersport Superspeed

Fischer - 1. RX9
post #3 of 15
The above are all terrific skis and great choices but please note that they are radically different is character and stiffness than your K2's.
I'd advise a demo before you lay down your cash.
post #4 of 15
Thread Starter 
I've been really interested in the SX 11's, and i diffently need to demo a pair, but down in Virginia there aren't many demos, and the times when there are demos, they have intermediate and twin-tip skis..... any suggestions on where I can go to demo the SX 11's
post #5 of 15
Salomon Equipe GS LAB (stock). It is soft enough to handle the jumps and terrian in a ski cross and will be faster than any other ski out there...
Later
GREG
post #6 of 15
Thread Starter 
but will it be stiff enough to rail hard banked turns and keep speed? and what about the Salomon Crossmax V12, I know they dont sell them in America, but you could get them shipped?
post #7 of 15
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Originally Posted by VirginiaCliff
but will it be stiff enough to rail hard banked turns and keep speed? and what about the Salomon Crossmax V12, I know they dont sell them in America, but you could get them shipped?
The crossmax V12 is an Equipe GC with a different top sheet. (I don't think völkl make them though). ie, a 'consumer' GS ski. Not that radical, more a hi-perf carver. If you're into serious ski crossing, good suggestions had been made : A true GS ski (what actual X-racers use) or a real high end skier cross. I'll add to the demo list the Dynastar SC11 (a Course67 with a more bouncy plate, supposed to absorb shocks) or a SCPro (basicaly a course comp with the same special ARS plate). I've heard and read that the SCPro is actualy quite brutal ,but the real mac coy for ski crossing. (no first hand experience).
This thread may be of interest :
http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?p=443391
post #8 of 15
Any race stock GS ski is going to smoke a consumer GS or consumer cross ski. Of course it is stiff enough to rail turns... that is what they were built for. It is what they do. I suggested a softer model so that it wasn't too stiff to make the turns. Watch any real skier cross event. They all use race stock GS skis between 185 and 195. Most of them have just had their skis re-badged to look like the consumer skicross ski, but they are in reality nowhere close.
Later
GREG

BTW, I did a ski cross race a few years back and ended up getting third after winning all of the heats leading up to the final... all done on my Equipe GS.
post #9 of 15
Any race stock ski...
post #10 of 15
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Originally Posted by HeluvaSkier
Any race stock GS ski is going to smoke a consumer GS or consumer cross ski. Of course it is stiff enough to rail turns... that is what they were built for. It is what they do. I suggested a softer model so that it wasn't too stiff to make the turns. Watch any real skier cross event. They all use race stock GS skis between 185 and 195. Most of them have just had their skis re-badged to look like the consumer skicross ski, but they are in reality nowhere close.
Later
GREG

BTW, I did a ski cross race a few years back and ended up getting third after winning all of the heats leading up to the final... all done on my Equipe GS.
I've never race skier cross myself, so I'm just askin' : don't you need something more 'managable', user friendly, in such a race than a real race-stock FIS-legal GS ? Something that let you adjust your line more quickly if needed ? You're racing with other skiers here. In a GS, gates don't move unexpectedly...
Assuming we're talking of a 'recreational' racer of course. I'm quite confident Enak Cavaggio is happy with his GS-LAB, but he wouldn't ask what ski to choose either !
post #11 of 15
Thread Starter 
haha, im some what of a recreational racer, but i have been looking to start racing more in more next year, so I diffently want something that will be fast, quick, and rail turns. I have heard about the GS skis before, and I will demo a pair when I can. THanks for all the suggestions.

VirginiaCliff
post #12 of 15
philippeR, for the average skier doing ski cross races for fun, then yes something more managable is better, but just like in racing, if you want to be competitive you need the gear to do it. A race stock GS ski is faster and as equaly managable as a retail cross ski. Remember, a ski cross course is not a GS course. The gates are set as far apart as a super-G or downhill in some cases. Turning isn't the problem. Carrying speed and maneuvering traffic is the problem. The stock skis just allow you to do it much easier, especially when the courses get fast, and the jumps get big.
Later
GREG
post #13 of 15
Next season (2006-2007) , Dynastar is comming with a skicross 11 RACE. It will be a beafier version of the actuall skicross11 wich is already a great ski.....Trully a great ski. Check it out! Atomic sx-b5 also good choice...
post #14 of 15
Thread Starter 
Does anyone know the difference between the Skiercross Pro, and the 11
post #15 of 15
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Originally Posted by VirginiaCliff
Does anyone know the difference between the Skiercross Pro, and the 11
See post http://forums.epicski.com/showpost.p...79&postcount=7
The SC11 is a Course 67 ('cheater' GS) with an ARS plate instead of the regular race place. The ARS has build-in springs that are supposed to give absorbtion and more sensations when you're exiting the curve. It's also less precise than a stiff racing plate. Some say (see thread linked above about GS skis) that, on the SC 11, the ARS is too bouncy and actualy a bad idea.
The SC Pro is a Course Comp ('race stock' FIS-legal GS, full side walls etc) with an ARS plate. It supposed to be quite brutal.

If you read french, see this link
http://www.au-vieux-campeur.fr/gp/as...asp?codctg=664
Though it's a shop site, the notations and comments are usualy quite honest.

Thanks HeluvaSkier
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