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Why Criticize Bode

post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 
He's ranked 3rd in the world right now in the FIS standings. He must be doing something right.

If anyone criticizes his results, remember he's still 3rd in the world and that's pretty darn good.

All that matters is if Bode's happy with his life, all the other criticism from people who will never be at his level means nothing so why even say something when you types will never reach his level?
post #2 of 21
Right, well, let's criticise that ranking then.
post #3 of 21
I think a lot of the criticism is because last year people were saying "is he the new Maier, or the next JC Killy", and he's not lived up to it this year.
post #4 of 21
Talk is cheap, but Bode has repeatedly delivered. I never heard him saying he was going to kick everybody's butt and win a lot of medals, that hype came from the media. He might not have lived up to all of our expectations, but that was never his goal. He is what he is (a damn good racer a lot of the time), isn't that enough?
post #5 of 21
this is not meant to be all-encompassing regarding the "bode stuff," most of which is, as far as i'm concerned, non-story material; but a lot of this fallout is because he comes from a country where skiing gets looked at every four years. people from the united states generally are ski racing-stupid. just true, not necessarily negative. we suffer from superbowl mentality. we don't get that to finish even in the top ten, forget the podium, is a remarkable feat. we seem to not understand, either, that there are other great skiers, who've been winning on the world cup.

in short, much of the collective opinion on bode miller is borne of ignorance, in the literal, rather than pejorative, sense.

and even with the podium, we tend to approach anything less than gold as a disappointment, or even failure. in short, we don't get it.

i don't know how many times non-skiing "sports fans" have asked me about my take on "the guy who skis drunk."

bode is big in austria (and europe, generally), where the fans know a thing or two about alpine racing, because they know what's up: the man can ski with the best of the world cup and, from time to time, win impressively.

they seem to get there, too, maybe more than here, that he's a human being, not a machine.
post #6 of 21
Let's see (and the details may be wrong or imagined): he makes millions from sponsorship deals and TV commercials, has a house in Park City, travels through Europe in a custom motor home, and gets to bang blondes who look like Pam Anderson.

If that's failure, sign me up.
post #7 of 21
Why not? After all its just an easy way to fill news slots. You actually expect the reporters to go out and find the real news? I mean you expect a reporter to interview other people rather than just pump up some other reporter's report? WHY, THAT COULD BE CONSTRUED AS WORK. It might even lead to a story that you would have to be sure of the facts about.
post #8 of 21
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Originally Posted by ryan
i don't know how many times non-skiing "sports fans" have asked me about my take on "the guy who skis drunk."

I thought I was the only one with that problem..

The Bode bashing is simple I think.. Too many expectations coupled with media hype and lack of information..

On a side note, People..

-Have a tough time accepting nonconfirmists.. Its been the way in history, its that way now..
-Cant seem to objectively reason or debate a point without bringing thier values and expectations in..
-Cant concede a point and realize that they can continue to debate..
-Cant change their opinions based on what they learnt..
-Find it very easy to loudmouth an opinion on a internet forum.. knowing it offers a decent, albeit not bulletproof, level of isolation to the next guy..


[Sorry for the rant]
post #9 of 21
Has anyone here on Epic actually criticized Bode for not winning a medal?
post #10 of 21
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Originally Posted by coug
I thought I was the only one with that problem..

The Bode bashing is simple I think.. Too many expectations coupled with media hype and lack of information..

On a side note, People..

-Have a tough time accepting nonconfirmists.. Its been the way in history, its that way now..
-Cant seem to objectively reason or debate a point without bringing thier values and expectations in..
-Cant concede a point and realize that they can continue to debate..
-Cant change their opinions based on what they learnt..
-Find it very easy to loudmouth an opinion on a internet forum.. knowing it offers a decent, albeit not bulletproof, level of isolation to the next guy..
[Sorry for the rant]
Right on coug!

As for the original question- my take on it is:

It's easy! Bode is not here to confront those who have a problem with him, besides, he doesn't care what anyone (myself included) think. In the end, he is right, he is living his life his way, not the way some people expect him to. As long as he can look himself in the mirror at the end of the day, that's all that really matters.
post #11 of 21
Oh My god!!
look another
bash bode thread.
let it go peps
let it go!
post #12 of 21
nice font work.

- one pep
post #13 of 21
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Originally Posted by segbrown
Has anyone here on Epic actually criticized Bode for not winning a medal?
OMG, I just spit seltzer all over my keyboard. Too funny!
post #14 of 21
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Originally Posted by mollmeister
OMG, I just spit seltzer all over my keyboard. Too funny!
Seltzer?
post #15 of 21
And, while everybody is jumping on the bash Bode bandwagon, how about a bit of general U. S. Ski team bashing for all except Ted Ligety and, unfortunately, the real trooper Lindsey Kildow. For example, where are Daron Rahlves results?
post #16 of 21
post #17 of 21
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Originally Posted by rmmaster
And, while everybody is jumping on the bash Bode bandwagon, how about a bit of general U. S. Ski team bashing for all except Ted Ligety and, unfortunately, the real trooper Lindsey Kildow. For example, where are Daron Rahlves results?
THAT IS NOT THE POINT -- which I tried to point out a few posts ago, but was misunderstood once again.

No one (here, anyway; I don't pay much attention to national media) is bashing Bode's results. They are bashing his 'tude.

He is acting like a teenager. He thinks he's being original and nonconformist and idealistic and visionary, and he's not. Everything "profound" he has said is realized by most people sometime during adolescence.

Holden Caulfield comes to mind. Hell, John Madden had the motorhome way before Bode did!

To me, it's all the "oh, he's so original and brave and YOU'RE just threatened by nonconformists" crap that is irritating. What I see is someone who is SCARED (not brave) to put it on the line and admit he wants to win.
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post #19 of 21
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Originally Posted by kcmcleary
talk to the hand!!!
Un, no one's forcing you to read this thread -- if you don't like it, click on by.
post #20 of 21
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Originally Posted by segbrown
Holden Caulfield comes to mind. Hell, John Madden had the motorhome way before Bode did!
Uh that's not the point. Rahlves even has a motor home. It just makes good sense. You spend most of your time in expensive mountain towns where accomidations can either be first class or no class, not a lot in the middle, it's a good idea to just bring your own home. I bet it's much more comfortable as well when traveling to and from all the venues. Nascar does it, and no one comments on it so I really don't want to hear the big deal about the motor home.
Also John Madden does the bus thing because he is deathly afraid of flying. He had a flight about 30 years ago that he was on, and he seriously thought he was going to die. He 'made a deal with god' that if he got him 'off that airplane in one piece he would never fly again.' He has made good on that promise. It's a little different though when comparing a one day a week broadcaster to a competitive skiier.
post #21 of 21
On a completely different note.. Do you like em all,KennyGs work that is.. Love the office space reference ..
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