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Hunter Mtn MidWeek 06-07 Season Pass $199

post #1 of 23
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The Hunter Mountain Value Pass is probably the best deal in the Catskills for MidWeek skiing. Next year's 2006-2007 Value Pass may only be purchased this year but it may also be used this year starting March 1 as well as next year.
post #2 of 23
Trying to decide between Hunter and Belleayre next year. Belleayre has more moguls, some glades, and soon a high speed quad. Hunter has challenging terrain, longer runs, and more racing opportunities (including midweek Nastar). Tough call.
post #3 of 23
I've never thought of Belleayre as having more moguls than Hunter - is that accurate? I guess Hunter has been grooming more and Belleayre less over the past few years?

For an advanced skier, midweek at Hunter is pretty good given its location. Only if I'm bringing along beginners/intermediates and/or its the weekend do I consider Belleayre.
post #4 of 23
According to Belleayre's site, they currently have moguls on 3 double diamond trails, 5 diamond trails, and 3 intermediate trails.

Hunter has Upper Crossover (with the worst spacing of bumps I've ever seen), often some small bumps on The Cliff. And K27 and Clair's Way are only fun when the conditions are good. Anything else currently?
post #5 of 23
You're probably right...I know Hunter often keeps half of Eisenhower bumped (not sure how it is currently) and I'm probably remembering back to the days when they let Racers bump up more than it seems they currently do. They also used to let Upper 42nd St. bump up, but that looks closed currently.
post #6 of 23
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Originally Posted by moguljunkie
Trying to decide between Hunter and Belleayre next year. Belleayre has more moguls, some glades, and soon a high speed quad. Hunter has challenging terrain, longer runs, and more racing opportunities (including midweek Nastar). Tough call.
Have to agree with you on that one. If you exclude Hunter's Clares and K27, Belleayre wins the most mogul competition. There are days at Hunter I search all day for moguls and you might find a few on The Cliff. Belleayre always has moguls.

With Belleayre's new high speed lift next year you will be able to access moguls on Winisook, Tongora, West side of Belleayre Run, lower Onteora and the very last headwall of Wantauska. You can do this all while skiing with your intermediate friends that can ski adjoining trails and meet you at the bottom for the high speed ride up.

From the other Belleayre lifts there is also Upper Onteora, Upper Yahoo, Upper Seneca, and at the bottom of Seneca (Tuscora). With a little hike you can get to Cathedral Brook.

When you look at it from the Mogul view point Hunter versus Belleayre it is a close call. Probably best to ski both Hunter and Belleayre . On a powder day head for Plattekill.
post #7 of 23
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Originally Posted by moguljunkie
According to Belleayre's site, they currently have moguls on 3 double diamond trails, 5 diamond trails, and 3 intermediate trails.

Hunter has Upper Crossover (with the worst spacing of bumps I've ever seen), often some small bumps on The Cliff. And K27 and Clair's Way are only fun when the conditions are good. Anything else currently?
Don't know about currently, but IMO, when Annapurna is bumped up it rivals anything that southern Vt. has to offer.
post #8 of 23
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Originally Posted by carvemeister
Don't know about currently, but IMO, when Annapurna is bumped up it rivals anything that southern Vt. has to offer.
Didn't include that since its been closed all season, as far as I can tell.
post #9 of 23
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Originally Posted by catskills

When you look at it from the Mogul view point Hunter versus Belleayre it is a close call. Probably best to ski both Hunter and Belleayre . On a powder day head for Plattekill.

OK yer killin me.
It used to be a no brainer to go get your value pass and ski Hunter .
Now Bellearye is putting in a Highspeed Quad and I hear there cutting in a new trail next to Dot. They blow as much snow as Hunter. So now I've got to make a choice.
Or like you say spend $400 and ski both.
Still the bumps that are at Hunter are way more challenging. And thats still the bottom line for me. If you can ski the chopped up tight bumps on crossover or try annapurna non stop,you can ski bumps anywhere.
Thats just not the case at Belleayre. Don't get me wrong I still love skiing there. We go there weekends early and get tons of skiing in before the crowds.
post #10 of 23
If you go to Hunter for 7-8 midweek days (or less), then the big lift (discount) card is probably the way to go.

$29 for big lift (early in season) includes 1 lift ticket.

$32 mid week ($23 tuesday).
post #11 of 23
[quote=loboskis]Still the bumps that are at Hunter are way more challenging. And thats still the bottom line for me. If you can ski the chopped up tight bumps on crossover or try annapurna non stop,you can ski bumps anywhere.
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True, but as another poster stated, Annapurna never seems to be open anymore - at least this year. When bumped, the trail is one of the best in the East outside of Northern VT IMO. Claire's can be good but it's often hardly what I'd consider bump skiing. Usually more like widely seperated large mounds of snow with ice in between. Crossover isn't exactly long. Is it the crappy year or is Hunter taking the grooming too far?

Still, I'd probably choose Hunter as the trails are challenging, you're not dealing with the crowds midweek and Belleayre can be a little short/boring. Now, if you like to roll the dice, Plattekill....
post #12 of 23
It's a crappy year, I think. I cry when I see moguls get knocked down by groomers. Given the lack of snow and the rain in the NE, every place seems to groom generally bumped runs.

Hunter would likely keep the runs the way people are used to them (or expect them to be) if they could.
post #13 of 23
letsee,
First of all, Bellaire can blow as much snow as Hunter? in what parallel universe? :
Second of all, Hunter made the decision to cover Westway first instead of Anapurna. Unfortunately weather didn't cooperate this year and they had to go back and recover the front side, so Anapurna got neglected and hasn't opened yet. Considering there was a record 45 day stretch of above average temps, the amount of base they do have is amazing.
Third of all, I believe Winter is finally arriving, and the best is yet to come. In addition to thier touch-up work on all the trails- Friday night they pounded East side drive with snowmaking, and the trail was top to bottom soft bumps from 11:00 am to closing on Saturday.
Saturday they were blowing snow top to bottom on Cliff.. Sunday was upper K27... Monday night they pounded Claires, and it was magnificent all day Tuesday...And when I left on Tuesday afternoon, They were blowing all day on lower K27. Bottom line-I was there the last 4 days, and every day had one or two trails with tons of soft snow (silk) in the morning, and soft bumps in the afternoon. and if I wanted to risk a divorce, I would've stayed and skied K27 tomorrow morning...
Fourth, I still have hope for Anapurna this season.....
post #14 of 23
You can't beat Hunter. No one blows more snow than them...period. The west side when it's fully open is as challenging as anything you will fine for 200 miles around. This is a bad year and he's still in the best shape out of any resort around. Consider what it costs to blow that much snow per day. Something like twenty grand I heard. Bellaeyre is run by the atate, they don't have the budget. They get good moguls but the top is so short it just doesn't do it for me. I have a house right up the mountain from Bellaeyre but I ski Hunter.
post #15 of 23
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Originally Posted by 2-turn
letsee,
First of all, Bellaire can blow as much snow as Hunter? in what parallel universe? :
Bottom line-I was there the last 4 days, and every day had one or two trails with tons of soft snow (silk) in the morning, and soft bumps in the afternoon.
Not in quanity but quality.Hunter is just a bigger hill.
You probably saw the last of there guns. If it's anything like the past few years this weekend is it for manmade snow.
At Bellearye ,like you said it's state run,they have a budget. So it's a use it or loose it kind of deal. So they blow snow until it's gone. In the past few years it's been weeks later then Hunter.
I'm at Hunter 3x's a week mid week & Belleayre when I can on the weekend. The snow for the past few years has been consistantly better at Belleayre.
But I'll still get my pass for Hunter ,for the challange,racing,etc.
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post #16 of 23
I'm going to e-mail Hunter about letting a few more runs bump up. Maybe if enough of us make some noise, they'll accommodate us. I'd say Eisenhower plus one intermediate bump run would be sufficient.
post #17 of 23
Yes, they really need an intermediate bump run.

Regarding cost, one of the ski patrollers told me it costs $25-$50k every time the fire up the guns. Not sure if he knows anything more than anyone else but that's the rumor. Hunter blows far more snow than Belleayre. Just look at the average base depth when you ski these areas (forget about what they report). Belleayre has better quality snow due to less skier traffic and less pitch. Plus, the Hunter guys really need some lessons on how to groom. They're generally decent, but multiple head size chunks are really not acceptable these days. Maybe in 1980.
post #18 of 23
The pass is a good deal.

The grooming sucks, it was better in the 1980's when 4 cats in a row would head up Belt Parkway at 3:30pm and they actually groomed.

They make a lot of snow, sometimes good snow, sometimes wet snow and ice. They don't move the guns around so sometimes there are huge mounds of snow to ski around/over.

Move the terrain park and half pipe to the other side of Chicken Ridge, next to that leave a bump run, blow in 42nd St. for bumps and right side of mid station, problem solved.
post #19 of 23
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Originally Posted by skier1
The pass is a good deal.

The grooming sucks, it was better in the 1980's
H'mm so if Hunter left more trails with bumps they would have less to groom and maybe that would mean better quality grooming. That's too easy. That will never work.
post #20 of 23
It does cost a fortune to blow snow. I'm an HVAC engineer and believe me the cost of electricity is huge. The water pumps and air pumps use a ton of it. Cosidering my electric bill has doubled this year I can imagine what Hunter's has. As I understand it Hunter is a piler not a spreader when it comes to making snow. They let those huge mounds build up to preserve it. Then when they need it they can spread it around. This wacky weather must be a real pain for them. Imagine spending all that money one week to see it all melt the next. They are doing a great job so far. Too bad the system on Racers Edge has broken. Damn computers failed.
post #21 of 23
Kudos to Hunter, but the ASC pass is still better, it gives you weekends with just 10 blackout days.
post #22 of 23
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Originally Posted by Phil Pugliese
Kudos to Hunter, but the ASC pass is still better, it gives you weekends with just 10 blackout days.
Yup, I have both... Just the time in the spring after Hunter closes, and the occasional day, here or there, pays for my K-mart bronze pass. I didn't pick up last years pass till the Mogul competition in April, and it still payed for itself...
post #23 of 23
I've made my decision. I'm going with Belleayre's midweek pass next year. The quality of the snow there has been good lately, love the old-school atmosphere, and just always have a fun day of skiing there. Plus, they have a 10-week (!) race series for locals. Hunter, even when it's empty, just doesn't do it for me anymore. Will still go there on a few of the local discount Tuesdays just to keep sharp on the challenging terrain.

Look forward to skiing with other Belleayre passholders next year.
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