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Atomic vs. Volkl

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Thread Starter 
I've been skiing Salomon's religiously for about the past 10 years. I currently have an older pair of XScreams (about 4 years old) that i can tear up but I had my Crossmax's stolen a couple months ago (bastards).

I am 5'11", about 185, 25 years old, very aggressive, strong skier, a confident "9", problem is that I often ski with different types of skiers (my girlfriend for example) and need something that I can count on everywhere.

I'm looking right now at the Atomic Metron B5's and the Volkl AC4 and Volkl Allstar. I worry about the weight of the Atomics in powder and bumps. Although i've skied the AX3's (two years ago i believe) and loved them. I ski very fast in an aggresive stance and need something that will stick to the snow, but that won't confine me to the little areas that resorts deem skiable by putting up ropes and grooming. There's just too much out there to be explored...

Please advise on the three named, or if any other suggestion may be out there i'd appreciate it.
post #2 of 15
fischer or elan
post #3 of 15
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Originally Posted by imataxman
I am 5'11", about 185, 25 years old, very aggressive, strong skier, a confident "9", problem is that I often ski with different types of skiers (my girlfriend for example) and need something that I can count on everywhere.
My vote goes for VOLKL AC4, length 177/184 - depence on where you ski.
post #4 of 15
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Now that i've started working a "real job" i only ski on vacation and mostly at breckenridge, with the occasional weekend in Utah. The problem is that when I'm with the guys i grew up skiing with we pretty much ski only expert terrain but we normally have other people with us (for some reason i keep finding girls that "love to ski" and "are ... um ... like ... totally good") that don't really want to ski there with us so we end up splitting days between bowls/bumps and cruising on blues

I'm looking for something that i can still have fun with on groomed but will do what i tell them to when i'm having fun ...
post #5 of 15
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For reference my last three skis were 193 Rossi Bandits, 179 XScreams, 179 ( i think) Crossmax ... thanks for the help everyone
post #6 of 15
I like my Allstars more than just about anything... but I will give the knod to the AC4 for your situation. Both are great but the AC4 does the all-around thing as good or better than any ski out there IMO. Haven't skied the B5 but I did ski the M11. I like the Volkl's better in every way except in pow. The M11 actually worked decent in knee deep fresh. I know the M11 isn't a B5 but it is an upper line Atomic with the same/simlar sidecut. I've heard the B5 is a better ski. Would love to ride one some day.

Good luck!

<M
post #7 of 15
If you have adjusted to modern technique, I find that the B5 is the most versatile and amazingly fun ski on the market today. If you tend towards a bit of the more traditional technique, you will likely find the Volkls more to your liking. Everything that I've heard about the Allstar puts it at the top of the class for an all-mountain ski. I did not really like the AC4 as I expected to, but, again, if your technique is more traditional, you may find it very well suited to your skiing.

You may also want to try a K2 Apache Recon or Outlaw, as well. And even a Nordica Hot Rod (any of them, depending on width and beef you prefer).
post #8 of 15
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by ssh
If you have adjusted to modern technique, I find that the B5 is the most versatile and amazingly fun ski on the market today. If you tend towards a bit of the more traditional technique, you will likely find the Volkls more to your liking. Everything that I've heard about the Allstar puts it at the top of the class for an all-mountain ski. I did not really like the AC4 as I expected to, but, again, if your technique is more traditional, you may find it very well suited to your skiing.

You may also want to try a K2 Apache Recon or Outlaw, as well. And even a Nordica Hot Rod (any of them, depending on width and beef you prefer).
Have you found that the extra width on the K2s make them difficult in bumps? As far as i remember they're pretty wide, 88 or 90 mm???
post #9 of 15
for out west, an all mountain seems to be in the 80-90mm range.
Ive got some mojo90s that rip everything on the mountain including bumps. For your size Id definitely say get the 186's. they wont let you down anywhere. If you cant find an mojo90, I hear tons of great things about IM77's and 88s. Dont be put off by the wider waist until you at least give it a shot. If you do get the mojos, mount them 2cm back for a bit more tip float and stability, or on the line for fantastic agility in the trees and bumps. Or split the diff at -1cm.

If you absolutely want volkl, maybe some matras or karmas.

cant say much about atomics cause ive never ridden them...maybe some sugar daddies?
post #10 of 15
Head IM88's in a 186, with a flat mounted binding. Or anything with a 80 to 95mm waist in a 180 to 188 cm.
post #11 of 15
Thread Starter 
Thanks, that's a good suggestion on mounting, i hadn't really though about that, i love suggestions and advice ...
post #12 of 15
Thread Starter 
Ok, so one more question if you guys don't mind ... I definately know i haven't skied anything with over a 75 mm waist, and am a little worried about edge to edge speed and manuverability at moderate speeds, in trees and bumps ... I know what i really need to do is just bring two skis with me to the mountain everyday, but that's not always possible.

If i go up to 90mm + will i have a problem turning them on groomers at moderate speeds, or if I were to go with say the mojo90s or maybe even the iM88s or the 94mm Volkl Mantra?

Also, any impressions on their relative weight?

Thanks so much for your comments, and any more would be appreciated.
post #13 of 15
I ski primarially trees\glades, backside, and bumps with those mojos.
Ive never been on a quicker ski...probably has a lot to do with its very forward mounting point however. I ski it 90% of the time and only break otu a slightly thinner ski for when it hasnt snowed in a week and its all hardpack\ice\scraped over. It should be said though, that these skis do perform great on groomers...the faster you go the better the perform not to say they cant casually make a run to let your quads chill out.

if youre going to do some BC or hike with your skis a lot, the mojos may not be the best choice. theyre burly. having also said that, I dont really notice that weight on my feet except when theyre hanging from a lift chair. that weight does help destroy whatever crud I can find though.
seriously a great ski. Its definitely all-mountain for out west.

of course .... we'll see how much I ski my mojos with my new addition of some 180 explosivs.
post #14 of 15
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If i go up to 90mm + will i have a problem turning them on groomers at moderate speeds, or if I were to go with say the mojo90s or maybe even the iM88s or the 94mm Volkl Mantra?
As long as it's not an ice where you really have to use the edges, you should be fine..
post #15 of 15
volkls are fine slash ******* great on groomers at moderate speeds. they feel like slalom skis for me.
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