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Difference between Spyder Performance and World Cup GS suit?

post #1 of 25
Thread Starter 
I tried on a spyder performance gs suit in large today and it fit perfectly. Now I am trying to decide between getting the performance or the world cup. I have not seen the WC in person, but what are the improvements over the performance? I like the performance styling better, but was wondering what the WC added.
post #2 of 25
Different fabric, sectional knee padding, and country of origin. But really, the biggest difference is the graphics.

-T
post #3 of 25
Thread Starter 
Oh I see the WC has alot of lower leg padding which isn't on the performance. I'll go with the performance since I like the graphics better and don't need the extra stuff.
post #4 of 25
i would get neither, makes you look like a __________
post #5 of 25
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Originally Posted by onstar
i would get neither, makes you look like a __________
Ok, I guess I'll go to the GS championships in my baggy snowpants and jacket. That way no one will mistake me for a homosexual.
post #6 of 25
I'd look at Schneider suits before you make up your mind. I like the fit and finish better than Spyder and the price is not bad for what you get. Google Schneider Racing USA for their website. I have 3 of their suits (FIS GS, Non-FIS GS (Warmer), and a 2-piece FIS slalom (easier to get on and off).
post #7 of 25
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Alaska Mike
I'd look at Schneider suits before you make up your mind. I like the fit and finish better than Spyder and the price is not bad for what you get. Google Schneider Racing USA for their website. I have 3 of their suits (FIS GS, Non-FIS GS (Warmer), and a 2-piece FIS slalom (easier to get on and off).
I love the fit of the spyder too much as well as the asthetics. I've seen people in schneider suits and they aren't my thing.
post #8 of 25
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Originally Posted by onstar
i would get neither, makes you look like a __________
Like a what? :

The WC has x-static silver fabrics that supposedly conduct heat. The forearm padding is denser than the performance and is ribbed, for lack of a better description. There is shin padding, but I don't think it is needed, as no one is going to run slalom without shin guards in a 600 dollar gs suit. :

I have the performance, and it fits well, although I had to get a larger size than I would have wanted to otherwise to accomodate my height.
post #9 of 25
Thread Starter 
Yeah, besides the fabric I think the WC is un necessary for me. This will be my first GS suit and I am overdue to get one. What do you generally wear underneath them to keep warm? I tried it on with hot chillis long underwear and a thin hot chillis top. It didn't seem like there would be much room for anything else. How warm (or cold for that matter) are they usually?
post #10 of 25
Most of what has been said is true The Spyder WC suits are made by Wam's in Switzerland and the rest are made by BeyondX in Poland..Schneider is no longer in business.
post #11 of 25
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Originally Posted by sir jman
Yeah, besides the fabric I think the WC is un necessary for me. This will be my first GS suit and I am overdue to get one. What do you generally wear underneath them to keep warm? I tried it on with hot chillis long underwear and a thin hot chillis top. It didn't seem like there would be much room for anything else. How warm (or cold for that matter) are they usually?
They are cold. The insulation is minimal, and they don't block the wind. I usually wore an underarmour coldgear top with a polartec power stretch bottom. This was enough for the race run, but you need shorts and a jacket or hoodie to ski in it all day if it is below 30-35, IMO. If it is frigid, below 15 or so, I'd suggest a full zip training pant as a bottom. The hotchillys bottoms are not as warm as a stretch polartec, unless you get the La Montana one.

I'd advise you to get the comp, unless you have money to burn. The performance will not make you faster, it just looks better. I got the performance because it was a gift from my grandparents; I wouldn't have shelled out 300 on my own.

Side note: Don't shin GS gates with the suit, it really screws it up.
post #12 of 25
Thread Starter 
I see, so these are cold... I plan on buying the performance because it's a $50 difference and I like it alot better. I'm also picking up some shorts, and I have pants and a jacket I can put on top.
post #13 of 25
Make sure you size up- most racers can fit fleece jackets underneath their suits, and those who cant wish they could.
post #14 of 25
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Originally Posted by Takecontrol618
Make sure you size up- most racers can fit fleece jackets underneath their suits, and those who cant wish they could.
interesting. I fit perfectly inside a large. I don't really think I could fit more than a long sleeve shirt under there but I like the fit. Do I really want an XL just to fit stuff underneath? I am a skinny guy and was honestly surprised the large wasn't saggy, I don't want to push it with an XL.
post #15 of 25
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Originally Posted by Takecontrol618
Make sure you size up- most racers can fit fleece jackets underneath their suits, and those who cant wish they could.
I've never seen anyone do this, interesting.
post #16 of 25
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Originally Posted by doublediamond223
I've never seen anyone do this, interesting.
Yeah, I would think it would defeat the purpose. Unless it is below 0 out I think I could deal with wearing the suit and some thermals underneath for under a minute of racing. Then I could just put my jacket and pants/shorts back on.
post #17 of 25
How would that defeat the purpose? The purpose isn't to make you freeze and hence motivate you into skiing faster. A suit stretched to its limit lets more air through it and creates more drag.
post #18 of 25
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Yeah, I would think it would defeat the purpose. Unless it is below 0 out I think I could deal with wearing the suit and some thermals underneath for under a minute of racing. Then I could just put my jacket and pants/shorts back on.
Just wait until the doofus before you takes out 4 gates with him while falling and the course workers are all honest, good people, but they sure as hell don't know how to screw in a gate properly and they need to have the race's tech delegate show them how right there on the course and all of this time you are... in the start gate, basically in your underwear, while your coat is now at the finish line, waiting for you...

I usually wear two layers under the suit, a very thin, stretchy thermal top and pants followed by something more substantial, like a low-weight fleece, and I'm usually the one who is sweating like a pig in minus 10 slalom training while in shorts I know of some people who just rely on a cotton t-shirt and the bib to get their heat from, but these people are crazy.

PS: It isn't during, or after the race, that you are cold, it is before, while waiting for your turn at the start. Dress very warm and undress at the very last second if possible. Being cold and miserable wrecks havoc on race mindset.
post #19 of 25
Thread Starter 
I see. I'll see if I get a chance to try on an XL with some more under layers. But the L fits perfectly.
post #20 of 25
Quote:
I see. I'll see if I get a chance to try on an XL with some more under layers. But the L fits perfectly.
How tall are you? Because at 145, the XL will float on you (butt area and shoulderblades) unless you are pretty tall. A suit should not be so tight that you have to have someone help you out of it after it is well-worn (the first two or three times is the worst, especially in a DH suit), but it shouldn't be visibly loose anywhere either.

I'm not talking about sneeking in a hoody or something that big underneath, intelligent layering goes a long way in assuring that you are warm and have a suit that will not over stretch.
post #21 of 25
Thread Starter 
I'll get a large, i'm ordering it tomorrow
post #22 of 25
Why not have a look at Descente suits they make a rad looking one at the mo i found them to be very good when i used them. http://www.shopatron.com/product/pro...descDNAD7-7859
post #23 of 25
Descente makes really nice suits. I have a Spyder world cup.
This just a little different colors http://spyder.com/browse.asp?page=1&...6&garmenttype=
I like it a lot, and the extra pads on the shins/lower legs help a lot in Sl under the shinguards.
EDIT: GS suit is # 1154
-JMK
post #24 of 25
Under the suit I have two words, Under Armour. The members of the U.S. Team are issued the UA cold gear (tops and bottoms) with their suits. Stays warm and wicks away sweat. Not cheap, but well worth it. IMHO.
post #25 of 25
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Originally Posted by Alaska Mike
I'd look at Schneider suits before you make up your mind. I like the fit and finish better than Spyder and the price is not bad for what you get ...
You forgot to mention that you need the special decoder ring, password, and correct timing to even THINK about actually getting your hands on one.

I like their stuff, but they make it so damn hard to actually buy it.
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