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post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 
Oh poor me; have to go to SLC on business the second week in March
Have only skied snowbird before. But didn't really count because we went with intermediate skier family and didn't really see much of the mountain.

want to choose one place to ski for the 3 1/2 days. Like steeps, trees, crud, bumps yadda yadda. I don't relish spending a whole lot of time figuring out where to ski, although adventure is good. Mostly, I just want to SKI! Snow and terrain are priorities over amenities or night life.

Was thinking about Alta, but heard from someone that they spent all their time traversing to get from here to there. Still intrigued, as it has all this mystique. If Alta, where to stay? Is it worth it to stay on slope rather than keep my business hotel room in town? am thinking probably so.

Don't think I want the Park City resorts as i'm not into groomers (it's all we have open here in NM and i've done all the drills i can stomach) and opportunities for fresh snow trump.

should I wait and see? Alta? Snowbird? which will it be???:
post #2 of 21
Since the resorts in SLC are all within an hours drive of each other...why not ski three different areas? Just follow the snow.......
post #3 of 21
Ding, ding, ding!!! Someone finally gets it. There is absolutely no reason to fret this kind of stuff now. No commitments are necessary. You stay in SLC & pick the best place that morning. Canyon closures, local events & the type of storm (or lack thereof) all factor into the decision in real time. Why even worry about this so long before you even arrive?

Powdr
post #4 of 21
Thanks Powdr...what's my prize??? How about an SUV rental in SLC for under $300 for four days????:
post #5 of 21
You WANT to stay up in the LC canyon, it'll cost you a few extra $$'s though and I don't know how it'll jive with your business trip. I assume you are skiing on the front or backside of a trip. The acreage lists 2500a at Snowbird and 2200 at Alta and that is an outright lie. Snowbird skis twice as big as Alta. No you don't have to traverse all day at Alta, but if you don't do some traversing you will find youself being funneled into the same intermediate groomers and bottlenecks. Their are 3 main areas at Alta, the Wildcat side, which is real nice on a powder day, but otherwise gets bumped up with big, gnarly endless bumps. Then there is the Collins lift and the Supreme lift areas. Supreme has a nice pitch but has run out of the bottom that is tiring. The bowls at Alta are teacups and don't compare whatsoever to Little Cloud and The Cirque. There is no mystique at Alta, except in the history books, the buildings are worn. If you look hard, you just might notice an Altoid in a 30 year old snowflake sweater. Traversing - you don't really HAVE to traverse, but you will find, after you ski all the tried and true, that you have to traverse to find new stuff. I am extremely fit and ready for anything, but I find no reason to climb up Catherine's hill to ski down an area that I can access anywhere at the bird. why bother? Snowbird - nooks and crannies abound, everywhere, if you are an expert and and ready, ski off into the unknown and follow the tracks off the main slopes. Ski the !Caution! gates, spend time flying down the 1,000ft of innumerable permutations of Little Cloud Bowl. Mineral Basin, with some new snow, it is just too good. Oh you like crud, try it in the morning after a sunny afternoon!! Check out the woods in Gad II.

Snowbird is huge with the greatest snow on Earth(along with Alta) and if you are advanced, then you know good ski conditions is vital, your chips are placed on the highest odds. I have never stayed at Alta, have stayed at the Cliff bird, probably about 8 times, but now we save a few bucks and stay at the bottom of the canyon in Sandy/Midvale. But there is no reason to ski at either one all 3.5 days, mix it up and take the shuttle.

And yes you are right about the PCMR's, although the tops of PC(Jupiter) and Canyons are as good as anywhere, the lower half of the mtns leave much to be desired for the expert skier wishing to stay off groomers. Follow the snow? It's always better in the LCC!, esp in March.

If you really want to know about the true mysique of Alta(long gone), spend $10 on Amazon.com and get yourself the little book, Deep Powder Snow by Dolores LaChapelle. Awesome book about the old days at Alta.

Yes, I am a Snowbird Devotee!
post #6 of 21

personally

if not staying in salt lake wouldn't make my business in SLC unwieldy, i'd go to ogden and ski snowbasin. satisfies your terrain/snow requirements, it's big enough, and definitely enough adventure for three days. i was truly impressed by the place.

just a thought.

post #7 of 21
Thread Starter 
Thanks everyone. I really don't want to spend my time driving around each day and would prefer to get to know one place a little. So it looks like Snowbird is it. Been there in the summer and the one time in winter was really frustrating since we could only look longingly at the expert terrain due to obligations to ski with friends.

If i recall correctly, the Cliff Lodge has lousy pillows, so we'll have to bring our own. Small price to pay for rolling out of bed onto the slope. Snowbasin looks tempting, but, again, rather not spend time in the car.

And, oh, yeah. Sometimes early bookings do make a difference in price, hence the "worrying about it now" thing.

Anyway. Thank you all. Decision Made.
post #8 of 21
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Originally Posted by SnowbirdDevotee
The acreage lists 2500a at Snowbird and 2200 at Alta and that is an outright lie.
Jeez....do we have to go over this over an over again. No, it is NOT incorrect:

Alta (2144 acres)


Snowbird (2529 Acres)


You loose so much credibility when you go off on this Alta vs. Snowbird rant. I personally like Snowbird quite a bit, but come on, I *live* in Utah and not as much a homer as you.

Powdr
post #9 of 21
map's not right, get a better one
post #10 of 21
Hmmm. So based on your *expertise*, I should disregard these GIS based maps, which have been validated by the USGS? I think I'll stick with these. But thanks anyways.

Powdr
post #11 of 21
Thread Starter 
Stop hitting each other, or I'm pulling the car over right now!

Mom.
post #12 of 21
He started it.
post #13 of 21
Mom, you're a Taos skier, right? I don't think you should skip Alta. I think you would enjoy it very much and appreciate its mystique to its fullest. Plus, you could stay at Alta's Rustler Lodge, which is so much more cozy than staying at the Cliff (which is just like staying in a HOTEL). If you stay at Rustler, you'll also have the opportunity to meet other people to ski with. Part of that Alta experience. And the beds and pillows are perfect at Rustler too! If you don't want to stay in such a "fancy" place (it is understated elegance in my opinion), the other lodges are great for a single skier too. If you really felt the need, you could buy a joint ticket and ski both Alta and Snowbird. But I'm sure you'll discover Alta is more than big enough to explore for three days. Alta's website lists all the lodges and their websites so you can check them out and compare.

Thatsagirl
post #14 of 21
I'm in agreement on thatsagirl. Staying at the Cliff is quite impersonal, you won't meet anyone. I've never stayed at Alta, but know it is a "skiing family" atmosphere, it would much more friendly there for the single traveler. Nice conversation at night, probably around a fire on cozy couches. And for sure you can easily ski Snowbird, it's only 10min.'s away. There is absolutely no reason not to ski both no matter where you stay. And really the differences btn the bird and alta are not so great that you might not even notice them unless you skied both of them 5 days each. Hopefully you'll hit the good conditions, but up there it snows on average 2 ft a week in season, and because of the northern exposure it stays nice and sweet(enough) for a week or two after a storm.

and how can I argue with a local who knows enough to post up those fancy maps, I can't! (but it's true the bird skiis much bigger) Get the book I mentioned above for the plane ride out and that should satisfy your Alta nostalgia.
post #15 of 21
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Originally Posted by SnowbirdDevotee
And for sure you can easily ski Snowbird, it's only 10min.'s away. There is absolutely no reason not to ski both no matter where you stay.
SnowbirdDevotee, thanks for agreeing on my assessment that it's more fun for a single skier to stay at Alta. I know many people who went that route, hooked up with others, and really had a great time.

Mom, if you buy the joint ticket, Snowbird's not even 10 minutes away. It's a lift ride up Alta and a ski down the back side of Snowbird and vice versa to return to Alta. Very convenient.

Thatsagirl
post #16 of 21
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Originally Posted by Thatsagirl
I know many people who went that route, hooked up with others, and really had a great time.
The skiing was good too.
post #17 of 21
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Originally Posted by drb
The skiing was good too.
Ha Ha! That's a given, right?

Thatsagirl
post #18 of 21
Haha, nobody likes Brighton with its incredible backcountry skiing. The awsome mountain with less crowds. But I wouldn't mind if some more people would go so they would actually build a hotel...
post #19 of 21
Welcome BobbyChicken
post #20 of 21
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Originally Posted by Thatsagirl
SnowbirdDevotee, thanks for agreeing on my assessment that it's more fun for a single skier to stay at Alta. I know many people who went that route, hooked up with others, and really had a great time.

Mom, if you buy the joint ticket, Snowbird's not even 10 minutes away. It's a lift ride up Alta and a ski down the back side of Snowbird and vice versa to return to Alta. Very convenient.

Thatsagirl
Also, there are two free shuttle options between Snowbird and Alta, so if you are staying at either it's only a quick shuttle ride to the other. Stay up canyon and ski both.
post #21 of 21
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Originally Posted by BobbyChicken
Haha, nobody likes Brighton with its incredible backcountry skiing. The awsome mountain with less crowds. But I wouldn't mind if some more people would go so they would actually build a hotel...
Or Solitude. (But they do have some lodging)

Both are totally under rated. And very "under"crowded
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