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post #1 of 26
Thread Starter 
Fantastic gold medal run by Dale Begg-Smith!!!

So nice to watch. Great skiing really does look effortless.

An Aussie liftee at Whistler was telling me he didn't think much great would happen for Oz this Olympics. Well, check your TV, buddy...
post #2 of 26
Putting "Aussies" in the title kind of defeats the purpose of the "spoiler" warning, doesn't it?
post #3 of 26
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Originally Posted by jrbd
Putting "Aussies" in the title kind of defeats the purpose of the "spoiler" warning, doesn't it?
Uhhhhh....

Yup.

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post #4 of 26
Is that Wayne Wong guy from Australia? I hear he won the moguls.
post #5 of 26
What were the tricks? Did he do the D-spin 1080 on the bottom?
post #6 of 26
I think the rule change that required the contestants to chug a beer in the middle of the course really favored the Aussies.
post #7 of 26
Found out the Tricks . . .

Winner did a Crossed up backflip on top, Cork 7 on the bottom
Toby Dawson (3rd) did a 720 mute on top, cork 7 on the bottom

Someone else did a double full on top (720 with backflip) and cork 1080 on bottom, but landed poorly and the run wasn't as clean.

Sounds like it will be fun to watch tonight . . . keeping my fingers crossed for NBC to just show each skier in succession instead of switching to other events or lame human interest stories.
post #8 of 26
I haven't watched yet but could not resist checking out the results.

My buddy did watch and his comment was that he thought a big issue for him as a spectator was that many of the runs look similar in that everyone gravitates to the same or similar tricks. When everyone gets to a certain point, the tricks do seem to be similar in that they are approaching the limit of what is physically possible off of a jump that size that is located in the middle of an icy mogul run.

When you get that many world-class athletes on the same course, the differences seem pretty subtle. What is lost is how freakin' hard it is to ski these courses.

I have tried to ski the one at Fortress and had to stop twice to barf. I have watched people ski the Dervish course on Blackcomb in disbelief at the fitness level required just to make it down a course that long and steep.
post #9 of 26
i thought the americans were going to have a better showing :thumbdown:
post #10 of 26
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Originally Posted by mattchuck2
Found out the Tricks . . .

Someone else did a double full on top (720 with backflip) and cork 1080 on
That was 18-year-old Alex Bilodeau, the current Canadian champ. Ex-aerialist...can you tell?
post #11 of 26
Winner did a Crossed up backflip on top, Cork 7 on the bottom
Toby Dawson (3rd) did a 720 mute on top, cork 7 on the bottom
Someone else did a double full on top (720 with backflip) and cork 1080 on bottom


Are the moguls still relevant? This is slowly turning into an aerials comp with some moguls in-between. I already find judging moguls a mix between popularity contest and personal preference, but now you can throw in the circus act in there (which has nothing to do with skiing).

Mind you I still love to watch these guys do their stuff. BTW, I feel the same way about half-pipe or big air or any of the "new school" stuff. I love to watch it, but it has no place in the Olympics.
post #12 of 26
Turns still count for 50% of the score. The winner had the highest turn scores for the day. I suspect we'll see the difference when we get to see it tonight.
post #13 of 26
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Originally Posted by Rio
I think the rule change that required the contestants to chug a beer in the middle of the course really favored the Aussies.
I got a chuckle out of that one Rio.

Didn't mind this spoiler -- the local radio station couln't contain themselves and gave out the results (it won't be on TV in about 14 hours though). This guys is quite a success story... between his skiing successes and his Internet company, he's set for life
post #14 of 26
Congrats to Vail local Toby!! You are da man!
post #15 of 26
I think this is a great story.

I can't wait to see the winning run.

I wonder what American Resort he'll end up coaching at?

Seems like they all end up in Steamboat.
post #16 of 26
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Originally Posted by goriders
I haven't watched yet but could not resist checking out the results.

My buddy did watch and his comment was that he thought a big issue for him as a spectator was that many of the runs look similar in that everyone gravitates to the same or similar tricks. When everyone gets to a certain point, the tricks do seem to be similar in that they are approaching the limit of what is physically possible off of a jump that size that is located in the middle of an icy mogul run.

When you get that many world-class athletes on the same course, the differences seem pretty subtle. What is lost is how freakin' hard it is to ski these courses.

I have tried to ski the one at Fortress and had to stop twice to barf. I have watched people ski the Dervish course on Blackcomb in disbelief at the fitness level required just to make it down a course that long and steep.
I disagree entirely. In 1998, Johnny Mosely did a 360 Mute grab and that was revolutionary. In 2002, Janne Lehtela won doing a f***ing quad twister. No one thought of 720's and 1080.... If we've learned one thing about skiing is that progression is *ALWAYS* possible. Yes the tricks were similary but don't complain. Would rather see a variety of lame ass twister-spreads and cossacks?...and hope that *maybe* somebody will sack up with a spin?
post #17 of 26
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Originally Posted by TomB
Are the moguls still relevant? This is slowly turning into an aerials comp with some moguls in-between.
I suppose a sweet-ass daffy-daffy-spread is more your style?
post #18 of 26
Thread Starter 
OK - I think I'm off the DBS train. This guy has a $40 million business...

So, how does he make his money?
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pop-up ads!!!
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post #19 of 26
what are thsoe skis he was skiing, IDone?
post #20 of 26
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Originally Posted by stephenc
I suppose a sweet-ass daffy-daffy-spread is more your style?
How did you guess?

Seriously, the entire mogul comp seems to be about big air and complex jumps. That is all people talk about and remember. Yet the winner clearly won based on his turns. I was glad to see that. Too bad the Canadian team pissed him off and now he competes with Australia.
post #21 of 26
I understand his money is from Spyware, not pop up ads. Pretty close though.

He is actually a Canadian from Vancouver. He took out Aussie citizenship a couple of years back as he was not happy with Canadian freestyle program. He couldn't attend regular team training and/or events as a result of his internet business commitments and issues arose over that.

Born in Vancouver, grew up in Vancouver, parents still live there and thats where he keeps his black Lambordini (spelling?) BUT he competed for Australia so it is there medal.

Unfortunate that Cdn team could not work out issues with him
post #22 of 26
ummmm - been living here 6 years.....

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Originally posted by Ski Bum Dave:
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Originally posted by skimax:
[qb] yeah 6 years is a fair wack , its not like some of the people that compete after the minimum 2 year qualification , and certainly not that he was world ranked before he changed countries so to speak ..
Its no coincidence however that these folk have to spend large amounts of time out of the country on the world circuit ( tis the same in many sports) but also people like Zali lived os in her youth .. [/qb]
Correct, there is a guy racing in the SB PGS who has been to australia twice in his life.

Dale trains in AUS every year with the team has a residence in Perisher and is dedicated to competing for us. Skiing AUS has been good to him and he definately recognises it and appreciates it.

If you want home grown success look at Fisher, the best result (other than Dale) in moguls since Adrian costa. and robbo who just missed the final. Dale is really the icing on the cake [/QB]
post #23 of 26
I thought Travis Mayer's turns were the best. The aerials are spectacular , but I like watching these giys cook through the bumps. I was looking at the picture of the bump run in SI and the manmade bumps don't look all that tough. What am I not seeing.
post #24 of 26
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Originally Posted by Ski-Dad
I understand his money is from Spyware, not pop up ads. Pretty close though.
Actually your both right. It's pop ups served by spyware.
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post #26 of 26
this thread started Feb 16th 320am....

so what is your problem again?
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