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Spray waxes?

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I was looking at some poles and just wanted an item to get free shipping. I saw some spray waxes, specifically the toko ski wax.

"Swing Wax is a Liquid Spray Wax you apply to base of ski to make the ski glide better and aids you in making smooth, rhythmic turns.

When applied, dries in 5 minutes and then you polish in using the pad on the bottom of the package.

The resulting waxed ski will be protected and slide much better on the snow. Can be applied daily before skiing if desired.

Universal Wax for all temperature and snow conditions."

Are spray waxes useful? or are they just garbage? I just got a brand new pair of skis, so I don't really know how to hot wax other than bring them to a ski shop, but I still want to make sure the bases are properly cared for.
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post #3 of 10
its quite easy to wax your own skis, i was just in the same situation you were in about a month ago; you would do a lot of good by reading all the tuning posts you can get your hands on in this section.

in general tho i think most ppl agree that home hot waxing is far superior to any other type of waxing (including the shop wax)

all you really need to buy to start is a basic ski wax (all purpose is fine, but you can get two colours in the same box which is a better value IMO) and a scraper.

then just put some aluminum foil over your regular clothes iron, set it on a setting so it melts but does not burn the wax(experiment to find this) and you are ready to go
post #4 of 10
Swing Wax works pretty well over a wide temperature range. Depending upon the snow conditions it seems to last about a day. Its handy to have if you are in a hurry or are travelling. I wouldn't use it on brand new skis as a substitute for a good hot wax, but it will help you get a few more days in between hot wax applications.
post #5 of 10
I'm not one of those super crazy wax people... in fact, I've only waxed my own skis twice and sent it into the shop once for a full tune.

Anyway, in regards to spray/liquid waxes... I was under the impression that these waxes would be the most convenient to use... they weren't all that much more expensive than cheap regular waxes... so I figured they would be good... but because the liquid has to dry so quickly, the solvents always seem to dry out the base. Like, my ski's bases don't look shiny and sleek like they do when I get it back from the shop.

After that experience, I decided to do hot waxing as soon as the ski shops are on clearance.
post #6 of 10
The only thing spray wax is actually any good for is for a finish wax, something with a high flouro content; and even spray isn't the best form for it. If its your only option, I guess it would work, but it certainly wouldn't be a first or second option. I would imagine the pressure application would be a better alternative to spray, for both regular waxing and high flouro wax.
post #7 of 10
Spray waxes are worthless because they do not penetrate in the base like a hot wax (if they penetrate at all). A ski base is like a sponge: it absorbs wax wich is later used on the slope. These waxes just wear off and then leave your base vulnerable to snow friction and various debris on the snow.

Hot-waxing can be easy, with the right tools and guidance. A real wax iron will be better for someone who never waxed before since it'll be easier to use. Also, with new skis, the bases are very, very sensitive to heat, so the temperature fluctuations can damage the base if you do not use a lot of wax.

1) Get a cheap universal wax (Toko workshop wax is good at 20$ for a pound)
2) Drip it very genrously on the ski or even crayon it and then drip it, for maximum protection.
3) Make a slow sweeping pass from tail to tip and than tip to tail (monitor temperature: the topsheet should feel lukewarm, nothing more, to the touch).
4) Let the ski cool down (2 hours is good)
5) Scrape
6) Repeat (1-3 times) in order to really saturate the ski with wax. Once this is done, you only need to wax a single time every time you go out (or less in old, fluffly snow).
post #8 of 10
...Further, spray waxes frequently contain solvents to liquify the wax, making for easier spraying...these solvents can penetrate the base, and further remove the existing wax deep inside...
post #9 of 10
I am a new waxer, with a new pair of skis that started to get base burns (because I didn't wax soon enough!!: ).

Whatever you do, WAX!!! I've followed the suggestion from Bears, to read about waxing from www.tognar.com, and learned a lot from it.

Also, if I can hot wax, you can too!! I bought the cheapest ski iron and Zoom all temperature graphite wax from tognar. I also have a plastic scraper.
post #10 of 10
Also, if I can hot wax, you can too!! I bought the cheapest ski iron and Zoom all temperature graphite wax from tognar. I also have a plastic scraper.
This is all you need really. More expensive waxes are also more difficult, in general, to use efficiently. A good plexi scraper will be better in the long run, tough, but really, with such a basic setup, I'd wager to say that you get a REALLY better wax job than what you would get from a shop. PLus, you get to wax more often and protect your investment better.
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