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post #1 of 6
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This is what i plan to demo over the next few weeks. I am a male, 40, 250 lbs, 5' 10", intermediate, but improving. I ski mostly southern New England for now. This is my second season doing alpine skiing,


Rossi Bandit B2 - Tried them yesterday, 166 length, and all i can say is nice skis.
Rossi Z9 oversize
Head Monster i.m. 77
Atomic Metron B5
Atomic Metron m:11
Volkl 5 star
Volkl AC3
Dynastar legend 8000

What would you add,subtract? I am getting better as my son improves, my expirence with ski is the crappy rentals, Rossi cut, so any good ski would feel a lot better. On the bandits yesterday i really felt like i had a connection to the snow, and not just an accident waiting to happen.

I was skiing on a groomed veneer of pp/lg over ice.

Thanks
post #2 of 6
For your current ability and conditions.

Rossi B2/Leg 8000 = Wider than necessary for typical eastern conditions.
B5/M11/Z9 = Bigger shape than normally advisable for an intermediate.
iM77 = Wider and stiffer than necessary for an intermediate regardless of weight
Volkl AC3/5 star = Doable for an intermediate, but somewhat more expensive than necessary.

I appreciate that you are considering "buying up" but it's generally not necessary, even with your weight. Some great skis in the medium price range are the Norduca SUV 10 or 12, and the Atomic Izor 9:7. Any of these will carry you several years down the road and will be ideal for eastern conditions.

SJ
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Originally Posted by SierraJim
For your current ability and conditions.

Rossi B2/Leg 8000 = Wider than necessary for typical eastern conditions.
B5/M11/Z9 = Bigger shape than normally advisable for an intermediate.
iM77 = Wider and stiffer than necessary for an intermediate regardless of weight
Volkl AC3/5 star = Doable for an intermediate, but somewhat more expensive than necessary.

I appreciate that you are considering "buying up" but it's generally not necessary, even with your weight. Some great skis in the medium price range are the Norduca SUV 10 or 12, and the Atomic Izor 9:7. Any of these will carry you several years down the road and will be ideal for eastern conditions.

SJ
For the East, replace z9 Oversize with VS Oversize. At 240 lbs you may still find it too soft. Don't worry about the VS being too unforgiving.

Also add Fischer RX8
and Atomic SX10/11 (you decide).
post #4 of 6
At 250 pounds, even as an intermediate I'd stick to "expert" skis. I am not aware of any "intermediate" skis that are torsionally rigid enough for a 250 pounder to lay into on turns. Not even close. Almost as bad for flex as well. The irony is that at 250 pounds, an expert probably can ski an "intermediate ski" more easily than an intermediate can, because they know how to manage the ski & its limitations better.

As for shape - I guess I'm just a contrarian. The more shape you have (all other things being equal) the sooner you will learn to use it. Lay a B5 over and you know darn well know what edges are. And even with that shape it is fat enough to let you play in a variety of conditions. And it is less likely to catch an edge in soft/slushy/packy snow. Try one in a 162 cm length. You might eventually want other things in the quiver, but you won't "outgrow" them. And you will get good feedback from them about how you are progressing.

I confess I'm not an east coast guy, but as for the VS Oversize suggestion - at 250 pounds the first time you run a 66mm waisted ski into a packable slush situation, don't say I didn't warn you about playing Das Boot and catching edges, and twisting your legs up...

I wasted a scary amount of time and money my first few years skiing on skis that were inappropriate for someone over 200 pounds. Go with an "intermediate" &/or narrow waisted ski and at your weight you too will feel the joy of twisty noodles screwing up your progression...
post #5 of 6
I have the Fischer RX6's (175), RX8's (165) and AMC 76's (176). If you are sticking to hardpack, I'd say go with the RX-8's. FWIW I am 6'2", 280, and prefer stiff skis. I don't ski all that agressively (I am an instructor with no race background), and find that the 8's are just the ticket on groomers, especially on Pennsylvania packed powder (you know, the really shiny snow that everyone else calls ice). The 8's are not so good in soft snow, be it slush, or fresh stuff, and were downright miserable in powder out west. The AMC 76's are a better all-around ski, with very good, but not great grip on ice. The 8's are so grreat on ice it is amazing. The 8's are also very easy to turn, and will help your form. I would also say that the 8's require a little better boot fit than the AMC 76's because a really centered stance makes them sing.
post #6 of 6
Thread Starter 
Thanks for all of the comments. I think i am going to put my son in all day lessons next weekend, he needs more than a 1.5 hours group lesson, so i can demo 3 more pairs.

For this weekend, i have decided on the i.m. 77, Metron:B5 and AC3

My experience in the skinny waist ski has not been positive,crappy old, used rentals, even with the new boots. Sunday i will try the 5 stars, the Z9 and SX10 or 11, which ever thay have.

The shop at the mountain give up to $90 of demo fees back, if you buy from them. All thier skis ar 40% off until the end of the season. Bandit B2 with Rossi axial2 120 bindings for $480. Other ski are priced accordingly. Since i will be spending more than $90 demoing, it probaly will be a good deal for me.
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