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Atomic Review: Metron B5, Sweet Daddy and (07) Metron M11 B5

post #1 of 26
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Review:

We skied Sugarbush today and it was an Atomic demo day. Woo-hoo, I live for demo days.

Weather: 20’s and a blue bird crystal clear day.

Conditions: “Packed Powder”, the morning when we were demoing was B-E-A-utiful.

Trails skied: Each ski had (at least) 2 runs, one down a mix of blue cruisers and a run down Steins Run, both off of the Super Brave chair.

Tester:
42 y/old
"Single digit handycap" skier
5'10" 200lb
30 years on snow.


Skis tested:

Atomic Metron B5 162cm. Everyone has been clamoring for me to get on this especially SSH; Having been on the M11’s for a year, both 162 and 172, I kind of knew what to expect coming into these skis. The heft of the B5 could be felt as soon as I picked up the skis. I will say that I was very surprised about this ski, surprised how disappointed I was in it. As much as everyone raves about the ski and how everyone says I should get on it and let it rip. Nope, un-uh, nada. This ski was too short and too stiff to enjoy especially in the tight bumps on Steins, they just threw me around and beat me up. I think the 162 length and its uber short turn radius had a lot to do with it, I am sure in a 172, I would have been happier, but that is a whole lotta beef (see M11 B5 review).

Atomic Sweet Daddy 172cm. Boy did this ski surprise me. What a nice ski. I expected the ski, with a 20M turn radius to be a bit of a tank. I thought this along with the ski being kind of a lightweight in construction, compared to the Metron series. None of these pre conceived notions were true, in fact they were very far from the truth. I thought I would never like a 80mm wasted ski, but as my new sig states…”80mm is the new 70mm”. This ski was not only very nimble, but it held super on the “hardpack”. Other than having a Metron and liking a lot of lift on a ski, this was the bestest of the three skis I tested.

(07) Atomic Metron M11 B5 170cm. For those of you/us who thought the 162 B5 was too short and the 172 B5 was (possibly) too long.. You/we thought the regular M11 was a tad wimpy and nervous. Well rejoice, Atomic has made a ski for you/us, the Metron M11 B5. The M11 has the strength of the old B5 with the nimbleness of the M11 and the lighter weight of the same ski. The tip has decreased to 124mm from the previous 129mm but the waist stayed the same 76mm, this is an increased turn radius to 15m from the previous 12m in a 170cm ski. Note, there are new sizes too. Where there was previously a 172cm ski, there is now a 170cm, along with a longer (and tempting) 177cm. I am not sure what the shorter tengths are, but I am assuming that (like Volkl) are running in 7cm intervals. Graphics also were improved to a blue/grey motif from the previous blue/gold and prior to that my (ugly) red/gold.
post #2 of 26
Thanks, Phil, and very interesting. Sounds like the M:11 B5 is definitely worth a ride. And as you know I'm very surprised with your experience on the B5, but there you go.

How was the B5 outside the bumps?
post #3 of 26
Re: M11-B5........................I told ya so!!!!...............

Another real surprise was the Snoop Daddy. Quick and nimble for an 88 waist and very good grip too. For last weeks conditions @ Mammoth, I preferred the Snoop to the Mantra, but how it compares in crud remains to be seen.

The M11-B5 impressed me enough that I'm buying a few demos early b/c I can't wait to get customers on them. Gee.......I might even ski 'em meself upon rare occasions.......

SJ
post #4 of 26
Is the M11 B5 replacing the B5 or will the old B5 continue in the line?
post #5 of 26
DD223, the B5 stays in the line unchanged.
post #6 of 26
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by SierraJim
Re: M11-B5........................I told ya so!!!!...............

Another real surprise was the Snoop Daddy. Quick and nimble for an 88 waist and very good grip too. For last weeks conditions @ Mammoth, I preferred the Snoop to the Mantra, but how it compares in crud remains to be seen.

The M11-B5 impressed me enough that I'm buying a few demos early b/c I can't wait to get customers on them. Gee.......I might even ski 'em meself upon rare occasions.......

SJ
I was HUGELY impressed with the grip of the Sweet Daddy's also.
post #7 of 26
Where can you demo this Metron B5:11 near Killington? It is not even in the atomic website.
post #8 of 26
Cyclist, it's an '07 ski.
post #9 of 26
I figured that out eventually. But I still want to demo it at Killington where I will be after the President's day weekend. Don't want to drive all the way to Sugarbush just to get the skis from there. Already have tickets and rooms at Killington. Thanks Phil and Ssh.
post #10 of 26
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Cyclist
Where can you demo this Metron B5:11 near Killington? It is not even in the atomic website.
I had to pull a few favors to get on the ski.
post #11 of 26
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Originally Posted by Phil Pugliese
I had to pull a few favors to get on the ski.
DARN IT. Does that mean it isn't even available for mere mortals like me? Seriously Phil? Awwww shoot .....

What say you pull some plugs for a fellow epic ski member - with the possibility of purchase?? Seriously!
post #12 of 26
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyclist
DARN IT. Does that mean it isn't even available for mere mortals like me? Seriously Phil? Awwww shoot .....

What say you pull some plugs for a fellow epic ski member - with the possibility of purchase?? Seriously!
Sorry, but no.
post #13 of 26
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyclist
DARN IT. Does that mean it isn't even available for mere mortals like me? Seriously Phil? Awwww shoot .....

What say you pull some plugs for a fellow epic ski member - with the possibility of purchase?? Seriously!
Easy answer. I will have demos in 1-2 weeks. Just swing by the store in Sacramento on your next trip to Huntah..................

SJ
post #14 of 26
SJ,

I might just take up on your offer on those new B5:11's since I will be in Tahoe the end of March to meet up with my brother from California and he could pass by to pick up a pair from you. What are the length options on those skis?

Also, what is the price range (meaning retail purchase) with the lighter (lightest?) neox bindings?
post #15 of 26
I am curious as to the weight of Sweet Daddy's and the M11:B5's in comparison to some of the older, lighter Atomic skis like the C9 and R:11. My father needs a lighter ski than his 188 Intuitiv 74s because of his knee being unstable.
post #16 of 26
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Originally Posted by Wassnowboarder
I am curious as to the weight of Sweet Daddy's and the M11:B5's in comparison to some of the older, lighter Atomic skis like the C9 and R:11. My father needs a lighter ski than his 188 Intuitiv 74s because of his knee being unstable.
The Sweet Daddys were very light yet held very will on the harder snow. They are coming out with a Slim Daddy with a 74 (or so) waste in 07. The M11B5 didn't feel much different than my current M11's. but were much more stable due to the B5 addition.
post #17 of 26
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Originally Posted by Cyclist
SJ,

I might just take up on your offer on those new B5:11's since I will be in Tahoe the end of March to meet up with my brother from California and he could pass by to pick up a pair from you. What are the length options on those skis?

Also, what is the price range (meaning retail purchase) with the lighter (lightest?) neox bindings?
I have ordered demos in 164,170,176. I don't think I'll get the 176 (drat!!). The bad news is that it carries a B5 (ish) street price of $849 ski only. I am trying to mitigate that a little by finding a deal on some '06 Neox bindings, but I don't know yet if I can get them or not.

SJ
post #18 of 26
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SierraJim
I have ordered demos in 164,170,176. I don't think I'll get the 176 (drat!!). The bad news is that it carries a B5 (ish) street price of $849 ski only. I am trying to mitigate that a little by finding a deal on some '06 Neox bindings, but I don't know yet if I can get them or not.

SJ
I am tempted to go with the 176.
post #19 of 26
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil Pugliese
I am tempted to go with the 176.
Absotively!!

That's why I'm bummed that there won't be any 176's until late.....:

SJ
post #20 of 26
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil Pugliese
I am tempted to go with the 176.
Phil,

Are not your B5's in 162? If they are, wouldn't you be better off in a 170 B5:11?
post #21 of 26
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Originally Posted by Cyclist
Phil,

Are not your B5's in 162? If they are, wouldn't you be better off in a 170 B5:11?
No, I am on a 172 M11. I did demo a 162 B5 and hated them, read the first post. I am getting the 170 M11 B5 as replacement for my bent M11's. I would have prefered the 176. but they aren't in the country yet.
post #22 of 26
would the B5 11's be lighter than the B5's on skis with almost the same lenght?
post #23 of 26
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Originally Posted by Cyclist
would the B5 11's be lighter than the B5's on skis with almost the same lenght?
Whaaaat?
post #24 of 26
Does anyone know if they will have the M11 B5 in colorado any time soon?
post #25 of 26

mEtRoN_-_-_-

hey man whats shakin-say, tried the m10 162 and 172 tried the b5 172 gave it all day loved it,skied itself-does the new b5 m11 ski like on rails like the b5 and plow through powdering chunk without skippin a beat-?
post #26 of 26
Phil: I agree with you on the 162 B:5's - too short and stiff. But, on the 172's, it was a different world. Yeah, they needed to be loaded up, but they gave it back with slingshot carves. Most importantly, they were smooth, stable and flowing. I suspect your experience would have been different on the 172's, especially after skiing for the 172 M:11's for a year.

I've no doubt the M11 B5 is a killer ski. With the increased radius, I suspect the longer lengths would be more suitable. I look forward to giving them a try.

Your conclusions regarding the Sweet Daddy are what I expected. They look lightweight, but feature Atomic's firm Densolite core. I'd love to have a pair in my quiver.

Hmmm: Marriage or skis...marriage or skis?
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