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A mis-alignment story (badly illustrated)

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Skier: 5'9" female, 30s, beginner (half a day previous experience on snowblades at Vail). Swimmer, inline skate instructor. Known pronator, particularly on right foot.

The boot: Nordica Beast 10, purchased at top local shop

The week ski trip (away, with lessons):
Day 1:

Joins group class with 3 others. 2hours very slow-paced wedging instruction in the am. Extremely tired in the afternoon, reports chafing sore spot in boots. Very visible irritation and swelling above left foot navicular bone. Local boot fitter places instep shims under existing DownUnders. No further skiing that day.

Day 2:

2 hours very slow-paced wedging instruction in the am. Navicular rubbing is gone. Very frustrated at lack of progress, feels she's working too hard to make wedge turns. Reports knee pain (severe in left knee)

Day 3:

2 hours very slow-paced wedging instruction in the am. Very frustrated student. Has trouble initiating wedge turns. Reports painful knees (particularly left knee). Instructor refuses to condone moving to other slightly more challenging terrain.

Afternoon jaunt to the green from the top of the hill results in a series of pictures:
Standstill wedge
Green run2
Just prior to left turn
Profile shot

After skiing comprex put a 10mm foam/felt heel block in both boots as a temporary fix.

Day 4

Frustration still there, but definitely feels more forward in the boot and reports no quadriceps soreness. (quote "That's the one thing that didn't hurt"). Am fun race and pm sortie into some green run trees results in a series of pictures:

Close up- Sous Bois II
Pic. 2
Pic. 3

Day 5: did not ski; return home.

Subsequent visit to original bootfitter, as reported to me:

Alignment jig shows knees are maybe 1 degree in.
Right ski boot sole nowhere near flat.
Cuff of right ski boot adjusted to maximum deflection possible
Heel lifts not removed.
Underbinding cants suggested, and experimentation with temporary shims
No further work was done.

Day 5 (night skiing at local ski bump):

Initial report of very, very wobbly feeling. Reports of chafing/pressure at right boot cuff, back towards the calf. When asked to place skis parallel while gliding, the best possible was a pigeon-toed (toed-in) stance with the right foot. When the skis are placed side-by-side, reports knee-out (bowlegged) sensation. Sideslipping exercises show clear inability to find outside edge on left ski.

She quit after 5 runs of braving a couple of hundred bussed schoolkids.

Definitely not having fun yet.
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Wow. I see so many people, usually women, who look just like that in the wedge. I'm seeing a few things there. Her knees are coming right in (ouch), but a question: is that happening 'naturally', or is she doing it? A lot of people who are nervous do that, especially if their menfolk have been instructing them (put your knees in! Put them together!).

Her feet appear to not be tipping inwards as much, in the wedge. In fact, her lower legs almost look like they are rolling outwards. So she wouldn't be getting much inside edge, despite all the work she's doing.

Has anyone made her a proper corrective footbed, with a big arch AND some posting under the inside of the heel? I suspect that is what would make the difference.

When I get someone like that, I tend to start with a narrower wedge on the flattest terrain available, and teach them to turn it rather than go for the bracing braking wedge. With some but not much inside edge, that is a better option for control and thus confidence.

Interesting pictures, she looks very uncomfortable about just about everything.
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