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post #1 of 33
Thread Starter 
When I had my, ahem, accident in April, the emergency room people snipped the power strap on my right boot off.

So now I have to buy a new pair. The people at Princeton Ski Shop around the corner were telling me about the heavy-duty ones that don't actually connect through the top of the boot (unfortunately, they were out-of-stock). I'm clueless on this topic... can anyone help me with power strap info -- what and where to buy? I assume that this is a safe item to order over the internet.

Not that it probably makes any difference, but I have Rossi Mountain Viper boots.
post #2 of 33
Isn't the address printed on the inside of the strap? Did you manage to save the one on the other boot? If this is the one that came with the boot, why not contact Rossi? Colleen Price pricec@rossignol.com

[ June 19, 2002, 07:47 PM: Message edited by: oboe ]
post #3 of 33
your other choice is an aftermarket booster strap sold by shops everywhere.
www.theboosterstrap.com

Masterfit University endorses this product also. FYI
post #4 of 33
I got some booster straps for my old boots, when the velcro on teh power straps went all furry and stopped working. i'd like to put them on the Salomons, but the current power strap is attached rather firmly with a rivet thing, and I can't work out how to open it to get the old straps off and the boosters on.
post #5 of 33
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally posted by dchan:
your other choice is an aftermarket booster strap sold by shops everywhere.
www.theboosterstrap.com

Thanks! That's what they were referring to!

[ June 20, 2002, 06:56 AM: Message edited by: jamesdeluxe ]
post #6 of 33
I think it would be a really good idea if you went and bought booster straps like the others said. I used them this year and loved them. The boots become much more responsive.
post #7 of 33
I think it would be a really good idea if you went and bought booster straps like the others said. I used them this year and loved them. The boots become much more responsive. Just make sure you use them right. The instructions on how to install them are vague. Any shop could easily show you the right way.
post #8 of 33
Ant, if it is a rivet, you drill it out, then use another rivet setup or a small (6-32, 8-32) machine screw with washers on both ends and a nut. Set up the Booster strap in the position you need to figure out where you'll put the rivet or screw through.
post #9 of 33
I use the straps that are on the boots UNDER the shell, and OVER the liner/ tongue.

Looks funny, but works well.

I have not tried the aftermarket units.

My impression was they are elastic? I didn't feel this would be better than straps.

CalG

[ June 20, 2002, 08:34 AM: Message edited by: CalG ]
post #10 of 33
Quote:
Originally posted by CalG:

My impression was they are elastic? I didn't feel this would be better than straps.

CalG
they are very heavy duty elastic
they add life to old boots & make newer boots more responsive.

I will have them on every boot I own from here on out, including my a/t boots.
post #11 of 33
Matt and johnj

Do they tear out at the rivit?

Can they strap my boots together to make a handle like the original equipment?

CalG
post #12 of 33
Ant any good boot Fitter should be able to replace the power straps on your boots. I have had the straps on my good ol Technica TNT's replaced twice. It only cost about $10.00 total to replace them.
I have heard about Booster straps but don't know to much about them have others here used them? What do you think? Are they worth the money?
post #13 of 33
My husband has the Booster straps and absolutely loves them - better feel/control. He's a very aggressive skier. I keep meaning to buy a set and forgetting about it...
post #14 of 33
for those of you that have used the power booster strap what have you liked about it & does it help on a stiff boot like a tecnica icon carbon or icon x or do they work better on a lower performing boot. thanks bteddy
post #15 of 33
No, they do not tear out at the rivet ( or screw/washers/nut setup). One is drilling through the nylon web part of the strap. You could also burn the hole through. Yes, I use them to carry the boots. I have them on TNTs and Icon Xs. They might be more noticible with softer boots. I notice them in that they add precision or power or responsiveness to rebound.
post #16 of 33
bteddy,
As john said, the booster strap will have a greater effect on lower performance boot. But the booster beats the factory power strap already on your boots any day. It is definatley worth the money to buy them. I think the around 35 bucks or so. They will bring your skiing to a new level.
post #17 of 33
I had my boosters on some men's soft race boots, Lowa Challenges. Pretty stiff! the boosters definitley improved the feel of them.

I might see about just pulling off the rivet...rivetting the boosters on would be a pain, because you couldn't re-position the strap once the rivet was through it. Bloody salomon.
post #18 of 33
I use the heavy duty booster, 3 layers, on my Icon
Carbons, and they work very well.
Once when I was at Island Lake cat skiing, my friend's third buckle broke, leaving his boots almost unskiable. I loaned him the booster stap
and it got him through the last day!
post #19 of 33
My husband is using them on Tecnica Icon Carbons. He's the type that used to go into contortions trying to get the velcro straps tight enough (the booster straps seem easier to get tight enough to make him happy). So they're definitely still providing support but making it more responsive while you're skiing.
post #20 of 33
Why do you want ANY strap? You need to tip your foot, not lever the front of the boot.

I would argue any strap is a vestigial piece of equipment and that we will all be in softer boots in the near future. Stiff boots are macho and were needed with long straight skis. I'm skiing in a very upright Atomic boot on a 160cm Atomic SL9 and will go to an even softer boot next year.

Have you ever skied with your buckles completely undone? The exercise will vastly improve your skiing.

In addition, if you ski in bumps much a softer boot will facilitate flexion and extension of the ankle and will also improve bump skiing.

Tip the boot. Don't pressure the tongue!
post #21 of 33
Originally posted by Rusty Guy:
Have you ever skied with your buckles completely undone?

every morning at Keystone! They told me it was Not Allowed, but i did it anyway. And sometimes on bunny hill when feet were hurting quite a bit.
It's one of our Oz warm up exercises.

Tip the boot. Don't pressure the tongue!

I quite like bashing the fronts of the boots in short turns.
post #22 of 33
RustyGuy,
Quote:
Why do you want ANY strap? You need to tip your foot, not lever the front of the boot.
I was always told by my ski coach that I should have pressure on the tongue of my boot. Why do you say not to do this?
post #23 of 33
I have heard that with the newer skis that softer boots will work. After trying new boots on for next year I pulled out a pair of Garmonts I had put away. The ones with steel staps around the shell. Now those are some stiff boots that fit like a vise.
post #24 of 33
Don't let slider fool ya. His boots are like from the 70's. Then he puts on the special pants and the whole deal changes.
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I dunno about this Booster Strap thang. I have some, but I'm not sure if they make any difference or not. :

They are kinda cool lookin though. Really make me feel macho when I'm puttin on my boots.

Cheers,

[ June 23, 2002, 11:21 AM: Message edited by: SCSA ]
post #25 of 33
Rusty, Barnes told us last year that the boots don't need to flex, and that stiffer boots are better. He won't tell us why, though....
post #26 of 33
Quote:
Originally posted by ant:
I got some booster straps for my old boots, when the velcro on teh power straps went all furry and stopped working. i'd like to put them on the Salomons, but the current power strap is attached rather firmly with a rivet thing, and I can't work out how to open it to get the old straps off and the boosters on.
Go to a sailmaker, parachute rigger or microlight manufacturer. They will have the tools to make a repair and the heavy duty velcro if there is enough length on the old strap to make a join.
post #27 of 33
Quote:
Originally posted by 9.12 skier:
RustyGuy,
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Why do you want ANY strap? You need to tip your foot, not lever the front of the boot.
I was always told by my ski coach that I should have pressure on the tongue of my boot. Why do you say not to do this?</font>[/quote]1/ You want to be able to move your boot at the same time you move your foot in ANY direction, up/down/left/right/tip.

2/ You want to flex your ankle to quickly change your CofG/COM

Try all these to compare control.

1/ Fix your foot to a stiff boot (Booster strap over plastic and liner tongue, all buckles tight) = Boot moves exactly in time with foot but you can't flex ankle too well. Often cuts off circulation.

2/ Clamp your foot into your boot as well as you can. Leave your booster strap loose = Not so much control as leg moves before foot and boot reducing reaction time of boot and lever force. Your leg has to move further for same effect.

3/ Secure your foot snugly and firmly into boot. (Booster strap over liner and under plastic but REALLY firmly, Ankle buckle tight, Calf Buckle TIGHT) = Restricted circulation and restricted ankle movement.

& my favourite

4/ Secure your foot snugly and firmly into boot. (Booster strap over liner and under plastic but REALLY firmly, Ankle buckle tight, Calf Buckle loose) = Fantastic control and unrestricted circlation.
post #28 of 33
9.12- I think there are a great many "coaches" out there teaching technique that dates back to the seventies.

Straight skis responded to pressure on the front of the boot. A shaped ski needs the skier to be standing on the "sweet spot" of the ski.

Stand in your bare feet and close your ankles, or drive your knees forward. See what this does to the rest of your body. It's the old "benz ze knees pleeze" adage. We don't need to do this now. Buy a pair of boots with the right ramp angle and delta angle. Then go stand on your skis and forget about leveraging the front of your boot.

milesb- I think what Bob said was we could ski in concrete boots IF our bodies are doing the right things. I may well be mistaken, however, I don't recall Bob making any statement advocating "stiff boots". Again I could be wrong. I think he advocated lateral stiffness.

I try to ski with a fairly erect tib/fib that is in essence "neutral in my boot. Remember "the great quiz"? The only pressure I try to build is at initiation on the medial side of the inside leg. My leg is on the tongue of my boot however I don't try to lever the boot or drive the leg forward.

[ June 23, 2002, 07:55 PM: Message edited by: Rusty Guy ]
post #29 of 33
I was skiing Perisher last week, when their hiring clinic was on. So many of them skiied in a very fixed, forward flexed position. Most of them were kids, so someone's still teaching it, or maybe they were self-taught as is often the case here.

As for stiff boots, I'm going back to them after these X-waves wear out (i'm studiously not putting cat tracks on them!). I get severe achilles pain and nerve pain up the back of my legs. I have almost no dorsiflexion, and soft boots were a bad choice. I've put heel lifts in and that's helped, but it's still agonising especially early season.
post #30 of 33
Booster straps--Ray the inventor gave me a pair at SIA to try . I threw them in my back pack . Took a little air and came down and blew out the power strap on my solomans and did a garage sale.It was my left boot so I pulled out the Booster strap and put it on ,for the first time my right hand turns were as strong as myleft hand turns. So last year picked up a pair of Nordica "beast" that have the booster stap as orginal . Fantastic. I am a boot fitter and after that expierence every time I sold a high end boot I would loan my Booster straps out and they would come back to get a pair , these are in boots like the Icon and X-wave and all the Nordica w series with the integral Booster strap were the first boot to sell out.
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