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Skier dies on Mount Wachusett

post #1 of 37
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Just heard on the news last night. This is a local mountain my family goes for a short day/half day/night skiing, so hit home hard. I know there are several members here that frequent the place. I don't know any one of them personally, but hope it isn't one of them. There is no mention of the person's identity.

Whoever it is, my condolences to his family...

Be safe, everyone.

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Skier dies on Mount Wachusett
PRINCETON, Mass. (AP) February 10,2006
A skier on Mount Wachusett dies when his ski comes off, spinning him around and landing him in the woods.

Princeton Police Chief Charles Schmohl confirmed the death of the male skier today (Thursday) but had no other information.

Ski area marketing director Tom Meyers says the man was 39 years old.

Meyers says two off-duty police officers were skiing behind the man when they saw him try to avoid another skier on the trail. That's when they say the man's ski came off.

The police officers administered first aid and were soon helped by the Mount Wachusett ski patrol. He was flown from the ski area. Local police and the district attorney's office are investigating.


(Copyright 2006 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)
post #2 of 37
I just heard last night that a skier also died at Bellearye on Wed.
He skied into the woods while in a race on the Nastar coarse and was not wearing a helmet.
post #3 of 37
I haven't seen anything on the news or on the net about that (bellayre)

Details? It may be a legend.
post #4 of 37
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Originally Posted by NYCJIM
I haven't seen anything on the news or on the net about that (bellayre)

Details? It may be a legend.
I have not either. It was told to us last night at our ski club meeting .By the guy who was standing in the start house ready to go when it happened.
post #5 of 37
More info on that accident.


PRINCETON, Mass. (AP) -- A man skiing at Wachusett Mountain Ski Area died Thursday after losing control on an advanced level trail and crashing into some woods, officials said.

Worcester District Attorney John Conte said Robert A. Roy, of Dudley, was skiing down the hill at a high rate of speed and lost control when he turned to avoid colliding with a child.

Roy's right ski came off, and he went off the trail backward where he hit some trees, Conte said.

Two off-duty police officers were skiing behind the man, and helped him when they saw him go down just after 3 p.m., said Tom Meyers, the ski area's marketing director. They were quickly joined by ski patrol members, who brought him to a first aid facility at the mountain.

From there, he was flown off the mountain.

Conte said police are investigating the accident, but said Roy's death appears to be an accident.
post #6 of 37
Very sad....
post #7 of 37
That is a rotten thing to happen. Sad indeed.
post #8 of 37
Speed Kills. Slow down, people.
post #9 of 37
That's why you use race bindings if you like to go fast...

What trail was this on? I have skied Wachusett pretty extensively.
post #10 of 37
I was at Wachusett on Thursday and saw the toboggan being brought in from about 50ft away. The patroler,who is also an EMT(ALS I believe),was working on the man all the way down the hill in the back of the toboggan. He was straddling the man giving CPR as they approached the patrol room. There appeared to be serious head trauma and there was a lot of blood. It does not appear as if this man had a hemet on.

Wachusett was not that busy at the time of the accident. It was really before most of the school groups had arrived.

The accident occured very close to the spot where the young Hubbardston girl lost her life a couple years ago in a similar (speed related) crash into the woods.
post #11 of 37
wow this is so sad. my condolences to the family.

was this on that trial called smiths?
post #12 of 37
I would bet that it was on upper Smith Walton, the trail that we used for GS at the Mass. State Championships last year (or the year before, can't remember). The last time I was freeskiing there, I saw a guy go straight down the trail, clearly out of control, and wind up in the trees at the bottom. I can easily see how this would happen. The trail looks almost flat at the top, then has a decently steep pitch followed by a big roller. The guy I saw went off the roller and lost it, not knowing how to control himself at GS speed in the air. I would think that something like this could easily happen again.

Smith is fun for someone who has the skills, but presents a danger due to the fact that a green trail crosses just after the aforementioned roller. It is fun to take at GS-SG speeds, but one must be very careful at such a crowded mountain, as this episode demonstrates.
post #13 of 37
Was he wearing a helmet?
post #14 of 37
Quote:
Originally Posted by teachskiljp
It does not appear as if this man had a hemet on.
I did not see any evidence of a helmet and based on the extent of injury I saw, it doesn't seem possible that he was wearing a helmet.
post #15 of 37

sad irony

Part of the irony is that he was trying to avoid a kid and that is the key, not, that he popped out of his ski.

My primitive read on this, is that he did the right thing, unlike the other kid who straightlined into that young girl, killing her.

Here's to ya pal! You may have been going to fast and beyond your ability but if the facts are as stated, your last move was the right one.
post #16 of 37
I was there today and saw a racer, who I believe was somewhat of a regular at the mountain, take a spill off of the course and into a chair lift poll that was in the middle of several trees. The course was held up for a good 20 minutes as patrol took him down. Not sure if he's ok, I hope so. I honestly think there should be some kind of fencing along tight or overly steep area's. I also saw some snowboarder take a spill on the rails and had his head miss the platform by inches. I think helmets should be mandatory for particularly dangerous trails. They may not be the entire solution, but its sure part of it.
post #17 of 37
We've skied that trail many many times -- people underestimate it because its a "small" mountain. By definition Wachusett is a family mountain -- and as good skiiers we assume the worst -- that a child will cross or fall and so we never open up the throttle there. It is not responsible to do so on a weekend. I have however, pushed my nerves to the edge on a mid-week morning when the only other person on the mountain was a bored ski patroller...



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Originally Posted by doublediamond223
I would bet that it was on upper Smith Walton, the trail that we used for GS at the Mass. State Championships last year (or the year before, can't remember). The last time I was freeskiing there, I saw a guy go straight down the trail, clearly out of control, and wind up in the trees at the bottom. I can easily see how this would happen. The trail looks almost flat at the top, then has a decently steep pitch followed by a big roller. The guy I saw went off the roller and lost it, not knowing how to control himself at GS speed in the air. I would think that something like this could easily happen again.

Smith is fun for someone who has the skills, but presents a danger due to the fact that a green trail crosses just after the aforementioned roller. It is fun to take at GS-SG speeds, but one must be very careful at such a crowded mountain, as this episode demonstrates.
post #18 of 37
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yuki
Part of the irony is that he was trying to avoid a kid and that is the key, not, that he popped out of his ski.

My primitive read on this, is that he did the right thing, unlike the other kid who straightlined into that young girl, killing her.

Here's to ya pal! You may have been going to fast and beyond your ability but if the facts are as stated, your last move was the right one.
Exactly. He was probably going too fast for his ability, BUT, he tried to do the right thing. Trying to avoid an accident is often the thing that injures people. But he tried to do the right thing and his bindings couldn't cope whatever demands he put into them.
I just hope he never felt what happened to him. This is just sad and rotten.
post #19 of 37
Lets not make assumptions here! Who knows if he was skiing faster than his abilities allowed. But I can say I have had some close calls with trees with could have turned out tragically. Accidents do happen, Hence the word "Accident". I also wear a helmet, back protector and kidney belt.

It sounds to me like an equipment failure. Maybe pre-released?

R.I.P., prayers go to his family!
post #20 of 37
Very sad. This is a good reminder to ski in control, which means always being able to see/avoid downhill skiers.
post #21 of 37
This is why I ski a 13 din setting.
post #22 of 37
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Originally Posted by Highway Star
This is why I ski a 13 din setting.
What are you as tall asa giraffe and weigh as much as an elephant and have a foot the size of a sasquatch?
That is a great way to cream your knees !!!
Better off investing in a decent pair of bindings and setting the DIN correctly.

I ride rossi power 120's on never once have they pre released on me.
post #23 of 37
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Originally Posted by huckingfellers
What are you as tall asa giraffe and weigh as much as an elephant and have a foot the size of a sasquatch?
That is a great way to cream your knees !!!
Better off investing in a decent pair of bindings and setting the DIN correctly.

I ride rossi power 120's on never once have they pre released on me.
You're obviously the expert here.


Not.
post #24 of 37
Quote:
Originally Posted by Highway Star
You're obviously the expert here.


Not.
Awww poor baby can't handle anothers opinion. Did you drop your nook wittle baby?

Down boy, Down
post #25 of 37
Quote:
Originally Posted by doublediamond223
That's why you use race bindings if you like to go fast...

What trail was this on? I have skied Wachusett pretty extensively.
Race Bindings I've always used and it's a must (in my case) to be cranked up higher on the DIN than the specs at the shop.
I have NEVER had "proper" DIN specs that didn't cause pre-release in both heel and toe.
Have always done this previously but bought some 175 Allstars in Dec w/ the Marker race bindings and forgot to crank them up. Sure enough last week I was bombing down a run at Sunday River...pretty close to the woods and pre-released for no apparent reason....I cranked up the DINS to 12 (out of 14) on both toe and heel.
I don't suggest everyone do this but at least in my case the last thing I want to be thinking about while skiing is my ski coming off for no reason.
post #26 of 37
Quote:
Originally Posted by huckingfellers
Awww poor baby can't handle anothers opinion. Did you drop your nook wittle baby?

Down boy, Down
Your opinion is stupid.
post #27 of 37
Quote:
Originally Posted by Highway Star
Your opinion is stupid.
Thanks
post #28 of 37
I know someone who lives like 20 min.away from there....Im pretty sure it wasnt him but i hope it wasnt any of his buds!
post #29 of 37
Quote:
Originally Posted by huckingfellers
Thanks
Look, I was going to let this go, but you're asking for it. Don't PM me telling me how to behave, douchebag.

Your post about my din settings is so stupid I can't belive it. As I've posted before, I'm 6'1, 190, and ski a small boot with a 293mm bootsole. On a din chart, I get 9.5 for level III and 11 for level III+. I've skied many din points higher than normal for many years, freeskiing at 12 din when I weighed 165 lb and racing at 14 din...on markers, which I would prerelease from all the time at 12. I bought my first pair of 997 11-17 din in 1999, and didn't look back. I currently own 8 pairs of race stock bindings, 5 salomon, 3 look. I freeski on a 13 din virtually all the time, because I'm quite skilled, do VERY agressive things on skis, and do not like to come out of my bindings unexpectedly, EVER, PERIOD.

I'm not the only person who skis a higher din, I know many people skiing 1-2 points higher than level III+. If you are on a Din of 11 or higher (such as any normal sized agressive adult male with an average boot sole), you should probably consider buying race stock bindings for your next skis. They are stiffer, stronger, more durable, and last much longer than plastic commercial bindings, even 14 din bindings. They can be had at reasonable prices if you look for deals.

Personally, I prefer to not pre-release into trees, but that's just me.
post #30 of 37
Are Race bindings less likely to pre-release at the same din than (edit not and) non race bindings? FR as opposed to FX for example. Or is it simply a matter of the DIN.
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