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Thread Starter 
hey all,

i'm a new member to the forum, and although i know you guys must get this alot in people's first posts, i'm looking for some guidance in buying skis .

i just got back from my 3rd skiing holiday, and although ive always loved it, it was this holiday that made me really want to get serious about my skiing. we were in Italy, skiing the Sella Ronda and its neighbouring regions, and despite constant glorious sun all holiday-long, the snow conditions remained excellent, and this made for a really enjoyable ski. combine this with great company from close family and the beginnings of your love affair with the Bombardino, and i believe you have the perfect
setting to really discover your passion for skiing.

Anyway, i'm a 5 ft 10, 160lbs, 20-year old male.

Ability? i fit most closely category 7 in a ski buyer's guide i was reading, which says...

"You are now able to link confident parallel turns and are comfortable skiing on most black runs. Steeper and icy slopes may cause you to lose a little of your style, but you are still able to get to the bottom in one piece. You have now started to get the feeling of ‘carving’ your turns and this has brought a whole new dimension to your skiing".

Except ive been able to link confident parallel turns since my first skiing holiday, and am now comfortable skiing on all black runs i can find.

i do enjoy picking up some pace and rolling my edges over on long blue runs, but also enjoy the challenge and adrenaline of navigating steep, bumpy blacks, sometimes drifting off-piste to be humbled by a proper mogul field, and always drifting to the side of the piste whenever i see a jump or drop-off. as of yet, i have not done any proper off-piste skiing, but look forward to seeing what all the fuss is about .

as this was only my 3rd holiday ive so far only ski'd in France, in Morzine and Les Comtamines, and the above. as it was my elders that were doing all the navigating during the holiday, i wasnt even too sure where i was half the time, i just concentrated on my skiing. but i think i remember enjoying Selva and Arabba the most, if that means anything to anyone.

ive always used rental skis in the past, and never really payed any attention to them until i ski'd some Dynastar Contact ST 10s this holiday, which ive found since i got home and looked them up to be very decent skis (?).

i really took to these skis, and by the end of the week my skiing had improved tenfold from what it was at the start of the week. my uncle, who has been skiing most of his life, said i'd "come on a year in a week". i loved how quickly i could link turns on these skis, and loved the feeling of being "locked" into the end of the carve, it seeming solid and almost
automatic.

ive enjoyed reading up on the basics of ski technology these past few days (im an avid follower of PC hardware so the urge came easy to me!), and have a general idea of the kind of ski i'm looking for. it should have a pretty radical sidecut and thin waist, as i now know these are the qualities that i most enjoyed in skiing the ST 10s (116/64/104 for 172cm). but as i'm probably developing rather quickly, im unsure as to whether id benefit more from the wider waist of an all mountain ski and the chance to enjoy taking the skis into the powder when the time comes (it seems to be all trade-offs in choosing skis as far as i can work out!). And as mentioned above, i loved the feeling of being "locked" into the carve, but would too wide a tail not make it harder to execute short turns on the steep blacks that i like (more of the trade-offs!!!)?

this is why i need your advice guys, so all help appreciated .

cheers

ER
post #2 of 7
Hi ER and welcome to Epic,

The Dynastar Contact ST 10 is a very good ski for what you describe, I can also suggest other skis of this type.

Elan S12
Fischer RX6
Head iXRC 100
Nordica Speedmachine 14.1
Stockli Lasercross
Volkl 4 star

The skis listed are more for on-piste than off-piste, but these will be useful in boot-top deep natural snow.

Also consider joining Realskiers, its a great website with an encyclopedia of ski models.

http://www.techsupportforskiers.com/services.htm

Hope that helps!

Michael
post #3 of 7
Thread Starter 
thanks Michael, ill read up on those skis now.

right after ive subscribed . looks like an excellent website, and a good price for subscription too.
post #4 of 7
Welcome. I'm fairly new myself, and really enjoy the exchanges here. To the earlier list, I'd toss in the Dynastar Legend 4800 (172 cm), Volkl AC3 (170 cm), and the Rossignol B2 (174 cm) - they're a little wider than the others B just mentioned, appropriate for your level, can still navigate bumps and carve well, but more versatile if you're serious about starting to go off-piste. If you see yourself mostly on-piste, his list is excellent.
post #5 of 7
Don't forget the Fischer RX series (probably an RX6 or an RX8 depending on whether you want to buy above your current skill or right at it). You may also want to consider the Volkl 5*. BTW, I've heard that the 5* for next year is a pretty amazing ski (completely revamped and slightly renamed).
post #6 of 7
Thread Starter 
cool, thanks for all your advice guys. i've given it careful preliminary consideration, and the skis that most appeal to me are...

1) Nordica Speedmachine 14.1,
2) Elan S12,
3) Volkl 5 Star...

with a distinct leaning toward the Nordicas.

the legend 4800s are still a vague consideration, but i rethought my priorities a little, and found them to be generally piste-related.

research will be on-going, but is mine a wise selection for now would you say? and if so, what are everyone's opinions on these skis please? i've found decent, lengthy ski reviews to be a little thin on the ground. come to think of it, i havent actually seen any. is this usual for ski hardware, or am i not looking in the right places?

thank you for your ongoing help
post #7 of 7
In addition to the site recommended (if you want others opinions on skis) there are some regular ski magazine reviews that are done every year. Ski and Skiing each have fall gear issues with testing done the previous spring of the new gear for that ski year. Ski Press also does on mountain reviews and has their results on line- http://www.skipress.com

You may want to read up on their all-mountain skis for opinions on the Nordica's and others. The Fischer RX8 have been highly recommended on this forum and in many reviews for the right skier type it is designed for.

Once you have read up on a ski, I would still recommend demoing the ski you actually purchase, either through a shop or higher end performance rental or a demo day at a resort where the manufacturer brings a van full of gear to try.

Also think about the type of turns you like to make- long arcing cruising turns (giant slalom) are best with a ski radius of 16 to 21 meters, the shorter quicker turns (slolom) are better and easier with a ski that is under 15 meters radius with 12 or lower very quick and turning enough to unnerver some less experienced skiers. The shorter the ski the smaller the turning radius, so as an example the Fischer Rx8 will be middle of the road radius of 14 meters in a 170 cm ski length, but a much sharper turning ski at 160 cm with a 12 meter. The length and radius can be important and the same ski will be different at different lengths.
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