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Skier's Edge Ski Conditioner

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Does anyone have experience with any of the Skier's Edge products that they would be kind enough to share?

I am considering buying one of these devices (the Big Mountain vs. the Plyometric Power) for the new year, however, I'm not sure which one or whether it's a good value given the cost?

Mike:
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We probably have close to 40 threads on this topic in either the Health and Fitness Forum, General Fitness, Ski Instruction and Off Season Sports. The Advanced search function will give you all the info you need.
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For the price of the skiers edge go get yourself a nice free weight setup and cross train. Those things are a big waste of money IMO. Not to mention way over priced. Unless of course you are loaded and don't mind wasting your cash!
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Skier's Edge

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Does anyone have experience with any of the Skier's Edge products that they would be kind enough to share?

I have the WC Plyometric and thoroughly enjoy it. Last year we had no snow and I used it very little. Instead did alot of nightime mountain biking. This year we have mucho snow (over 14 feet fell in January alone!) I use it almost every evening after work. I keep the footies as wide as they will go and practice all manner of wide track turns.

As far as value issues go it might be considered extravagant. But so might a SVST Sidewall Planer vs a FKS Ergo Tool. When I bought mine several years ago it cost about the same as my tournament foosball table. Another extravagance that I enjoy the hell out of.
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Originally Posted by Flying Fossil
I When I bought mine several years ago it cost about the same as my tournament foosball table. Another extravagance that I enjoy the hell out of.
I too know how it feels to thoroughly enjoy fooseball. I am a champ at foosball. I played so much foosball in afghanistan and Iraq I could of went pro by the time I got home. Great game. My goalie is a rocket, my 2 man is pretty powerful too. lol love that game. Won me many a drink in the bar off of foosball.
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Foos

I hear ya, played Tournament Level in college. Best thing I won was a table but couldn't afford to keep it had to sell it always regretted

Now almost 30 years later I have my own table again. Tornado Cyclone II. Ain't nearly as sticky but she is waaayy faster.

My usual afterwork routine - turn on the Winning Runs DVD shoot pull kicks or push kicks 10x - stretch - 3 runs X 100 turns on SK Edge - stretch - side pulls or pushes 10X -3 runs X 100 turns on SK Edge - stretch - center pulls or pushes 10X - 3 runs X 100 turns on SK Edge - stretch - and so on.

I'm pullin in my foos and the Worldcup Winning Runs - in order to avoid the boredom - hell I even look forward to it.

What is really fun is to try to follow along with the Winning Runs SL vid with the SK Edge - make believe clearing the poles following the rhythm combinations etc.

It rains alot out here

- Fossil
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Originally Posted by huckingfellers
For the price of the skiers edge go get yourself a nice free weight setup and cross train. Those things are a big waste of money IMO. Not to mention way over priced. Unless of course you are loaded and don't mind wasting your cash!
The Skier's Edge is not meant to be an alternative to free weights, stair steppers, elliptical machines, treadmills, spinning bikes, etc ...

If you're going to use it as an aerobic trainer then yes there are cheaper & better alternatives. The thing is that it's not meant to be used like that ... It's meant to be used as a plyometric training exercise (doesn't the name say it all?) to SUPPLEMENT all of those other forms of training.

It's all about training your muscles to effectively use all of that conditioning (aerobic) and power (lifting) you've developed specifically for skiing. You can lift all you want, but if you don't train your muscles to react correctly then it's basically "dumb muscle".

You want a cheaper alternative? Buy or build some boxes to jump up & off of, or go out in the yard and do some plyo jumps.
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Originally Posted by Woodee
The Skier's Edge is not meant to be an alternative to free weights, stair steppers, elliptical machines, treadmills, spinning bikes, etc ...

If you're going to use it as an aerobic trainer then yes there are cheaper & better alternatives. The thing is that it's not meant to be used like that ... It's meant to be used as a plyometric training exercise (doesn't the name say it all?) to SUPPLEMENT all of those other forms of training.

It's all about training your muscles to effectively use all of that conditioning (aerobic) and power (lifting) you've developed specifically for skiing. You can lift all you want, but if you don't train your muscles to react correctly then it's basically "dumb muscle".

You want a cheaper alternative? Buy or build some boxes to jump up & off of, or go out in the yard and do some plyo jumps.
Notice the word "cross" train there, "Richard Simmons"
post #9 of 18
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Originally Posted by huckingfellers
Notice the word "cross" train there, "Richard Simmons"
[fake gay accent] Oh my gawwwwwd! [/fake gay accent ... not that there's anything wrong with that ]

Yeah I hear ya, but for the vast majority of the people out there "cross training" means ride a bike and go for a run, or lift some weights and go for a run ...

Not that those scenarios are bad, and they are certainly considered cross training, but they're missing the part that the Skier's Edge provides, which is the plyo component, which is all too important for skiing.

I just take exception to the comment that the Skier's Edge is a "waste of money" becuase it truly is a valuable piece of equipment. It is expensive, but I don't have the space for plyo boxes and the weather is typically too crappy to get motivated to go outside and train consistently.

I do however agree that it's not the silver bullet of training ... no one thing is.
post #10 of 18
LOL, is Richard Gay? Just kidding I am sure he is. (that is a sin)

I have boxes set up, I also use a 10 pound medicine ball. Hold in hand at face level while squating in a 90 degree posistion. Throw the ball off a wall high over your head with both arms as you push through it while going to a standing posistion. As you recatch the ball progressively go back into your 90 degree squat. This is an excellent exercise as it works all your muscles in one motion. Great for skiing! But you definately need to be agile and not just powerful. Strictly weight training just does not cut it for skiing , I agree there. I take back my waste of money comment. Just way to much for me to pay. I get a much better workout for way way way cheaper than the skiers edge.

I don't explain things that well so i hope I didn't confuse anyone. I usually do.
: sometimes myself
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Originally Posted by Flying Fossil
tournament foosball table. .
sweet!!
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along with plyo boxes ,if you have room, you can build a 'side strike' .About 4' long 2' wide .each end is a fixed box cut at a 45 degree angle. Stand in between boxes ,should be about 3' of flat area in between boxes.there is a seriesof rapid hops ,jumps and foot work drills that has you bouncing off those 45 degree boxes.
If only I could remember where I first saw this I'd give you guys a link.
Also if you have a long ladder ,put it on the ground and run some ladder drills.
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Skier's Edge Is Definitely Worth It!

I train with weights 4 days a week, but find it difficult to get a good leg workout, because back problems and concerns I have with the long-term impact on my discs from doing barbell squats keep me away from the squat rack. At the same time, I want to get a good pump from my leg workouts without gaining too much mass in my legs (I run long distance as well and have felt the negative effects of carrying too much mass in my legs). WHEN I saw the advertisment for the Skier's Edge, I really wanted to try it out, but had to search around for someone in my area who owned one. I wanted either the BIG MOUNTAIN or WORLD CUP version.

Luckily, I found someone with a BIG MOUNTAIN IV recently and was really impressed with the quality of the workout I got from just a short time on board. The machine is really smooth and offers good resistance and rail slope, which, when combined with the crouched stance the pole length puts you in, offers an excellent leg workout that really hits your glutes and thighs when you do it correctly. I imagine it's even more of a blast on the WORLD CUP version, because of the steeper slope and 3rd resistance band. I could tell immediately that the fatigue I feel in my thighs from a couple of hours on the slopes on my first day out would no longer be a factor with regular training on this machine. It also tracks right for skiing and keeps your upper body quiet for strict fall-line skiing. If you keep your form strict and the movements precise with your weight forward on your shins, you should see a great benefit. (Also, My wife thinks it will finally give her the rear-end and thighs she lost in her 20's without torturing her bad knees.)

In terms of endorsements, you've all seen the national ski team endorsements on the machine. I saw some of the proof during a story aired on Good Morning America about the school that several winter olympic skiers (including Bode Miller) attended in Maine or New Hampshire that combined every day ski training with academics (I believe it's called Caraballo or Caravello). When the cameras panned across their indoor training center, the Skier's Edge World Cup was front and center and in use. It's one thing for Skier's Edge to sponsor a team, but another to realize that coaches who know about physical conditioning and ski training have chosen the machine to train their young hopefuls.

I can't say enough about it. I'll gladly fork out the $1,500 for the WC model.
post #14 of 18
Here's a mixed review about the Skier's Edge...
Good cardio
Not great for ski technique.
Pricey

I set the individual foot bases quite close together and step with only the new outside foot. Keep the upper body as still as possible (this improves with experience). If weather permitted, I'd rather use a bike to hill climb out of the saddle (works small core stabilizing muscles) and not use a Skier's Edge.


Ken
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Don't buy retail! Otherwise, like to use mine in front of the TV just for something to do rather than sit and do nothing. Watch Ebay and other online places to get one. I got mine here in Indiana from a want add in a trader paper and paid $225 for a series three last year and it is in almost new conditon. It is worth that to me! If you call the factory, they sometimes have factory seconds on sale or refurb models too.

Ty
post #16 of 18
I think they are a waste of money.

I sold mine on Ebay for more then I originally paid.
post #17 of 18
yea, for workout music, you basically need hard-hitting euro-dance music.... nothing else does the job really. Search around on iTunes for "euro club hits" or check this link: http://electricfilebox.com/tracks :
post #18 of 18
I got mine last summer because after breaking my tibia and my ankle during the pervious ski season, jogging was declared off limits. It didn't turn me into Bode Miller (thank goodness!) but it is a good low impact workout. I use it while watching Warren Miller tapes.

I haven't used it as much during the winter, but intend to spend a lot of time on it from now until July 7, when I leave for Santiago. :
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