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Bindings mounted offcentre on my Gotamas?

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
I treated myself to a pair of Gotamas last week and had them fitted with a pair of Rossi Scratch 100 turntable bindings.
They looked fine, but after reading on here about people getting their skis with the bindings mounted offcentre to one side I got curious.
Upon looking closely they did indeed look offcentre. I thought it may be the light so got a tape measure and indeed both skis are the same, being 3mm more of a gap one side than the other.
If any of you guys and ladies know whether this is acceptable or not, what may have caused this, and whether this will affect the performance of the skis would be very grateful for any feedback.

Thanks,

Chris
post #2 of 15
3mm can usually be corrected by loosening the screws and retightening with some preassure in the direction the binding needs to go, the shop who mounted them should do this for you. The order the screws were tightened can affect the positioning of the binding. The screws should be screwed down loosely in an X pattern, ie. Front Right, Back Left, Front Left, Back Right...then torqued to spec. this helps prevents the binding "walking" left or right.

Most binding jigs don't open wide enough to accomodate modern fat skis. It's frustating and the options available, add-on foot extenders, are flexy and cause more problems than they solve. The indusry needs to catch up with itself, fat skis are the rage but the equipment to mount them isn't available to the technicians. It's an engineering problem every time a fat ski gets mounted fun!!
post #3 of 15
Being in an area where a lot of fat skis are mounted, i can attest that the Jigs leave something to be disired, however whenever I mount fat skis I will put the Jig on, then lightly drill a dimple, take the jig off, then measure. If its off, I will recenter then repeat, if it's on you can usually just drill out the dimples. I have not had much luck recentering a binding that is more than couple of mm's off so 3 might be pushing it but it can't hurt.
post #4 of 15
Whiteroom and SkiSnowKing have it.
You would think the binding manufacturers would
get with it. Though maybe they have and shops
are not buying (if they don't mount alot of fats)
Especially since the binding companies are owned
by ski companies (for the most part).
3 mm difference is 1.5mm off center, you should
ski them and see if you can feel it.
post #5 of 15
Thread Starter 
Hello again guys, thanks for the replies

I took the skis back and we came to agreement that they would fit a pair of Salomon S912Ti bindings on them instead as they had a jig for Sally bindings that would fit the fat skis.
Only problem is that they have had to mount the bindings 1.5cm behind the "freeride" centre mark to avoid hole collision.
I'm willing to give them a try like this but am wondering how the goats will ski in this kind of configuration?
post #6 of 15
I tried the Gots 2cm back (183's) and thought they sucked, they were harder to turn and gained no stability. I was reading the Footloose BB last year and they recommended trying their demos 1-2cm back, but I really like them on the mark, or maybe a few mm's back. Volkl's tend to have their skis marked for a more rearward mount anyway.
post #7 of 15
Did they try to shift the binding over? 1.5mm is do-able, try that before mounting 1.5 cm back. Make them try the loosen-push-tighten method first.
post #8 of 15
I'd ski them slightly off center before I'd remount 1.5cm back. But I REALLY think the off set is fixable, unless thats already been tried and 3mm off is the correction for WAY off.
post #9 of 15
Thread Starter 
Whiteroom, I'm afraid they never got to try the moving sideways push, just went straight for the other bindings further back to avoid hole collision.
I've had some feedback from some other people and they reckon I will be ok.
Guess i'm going to have try them and find out the hard way I guess.
post #10 of 15
Seems like a Tyrolia-Railflex binding or a similar binding with built in adjustment would resolve a problem like this relatively easily?
post #11 of 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by steveturner
Seems like a Tyrolia-Railflex binding or a similar binding with built in adjustment would resolve a problem like this relatively easily?
I agree, especially on a 2nd mount where you could be locked into a position that might not be optimal. I have the Railflex on mine, has worked out well, little bit higher than other bindings, but not bad, could be a bit of an advantage on groomers. The mount holes are spaced out much different than other bindings so the holes tend not to interfere.
post #12 of 15
The railflex system is great, but if the rail is off center the binding is off center. I'm talking side to side off center not fore/aft. The rail does have an effect on how some skis perform i.e. better carving but slower in edge set rebound. In some applications lift is detrimental to freeride skiing, if you want a loose feeling ski that can smear turns it can cause a bit of 'locked on edge' feel, great in a carving ski...not so fun in gnarly terrain.
post #13 of 15
Rant:

We have seen way too many strings like this! And imagine how many of the less-astute-than-Bears general skiing public are skiing on mis-mounted stuff?

WHY do ski shops think they have the right to sell you incorrectly assembled (and irrepairable) goods? Would we accept a car that had the steering wheel mounted on the wrong side? How about if they moved it and left a repaired (but visible) hole in the dash on the wrong side? No way.

The shop owes a new pair of identical or equivalent skis mounted correctly in ALL cases. You paid your hard earned money for these. They should make you whole, or take a trip to small claims court. Maybe if more of us did this a) they would take more care in mounting and b) in training employees.
post #14 of 15
These threads caused me to look closer at my new mounted skis just received yesterday from Ken Jones in NH. Rear lifter plate on Look 12 was slightly (5mm) back on one of the skis vs. the other.

Kinda wish I never read the posts!
post #15 of 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by NE1
Rant:

We have seen way too many strings like this! And imagine how many of the less-astute-than-Bears general skiing public are skiing on mis-mounted stuff?

It boggles my mind -- I have free-drilled and mounted bindings on skis, without a template, and they come out fine. How can shops with drill jigs and templates screw it up??? If I can do it right with masking tape and rulers they ought to be able to get it right with the no-brain-required jigs. I guess not.
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