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post #31 of 44
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Originally Posted by JohnH
Watch her ski. When she turns or makes a wedge, does she "use" her hands also, or are ther hands and arms remaining quiet? If she can keep her hands and arms quiet through an entire run, and she wants poles so that she looks like everyone else and to use them in lift lines and pushing around, there really is no issue.
I think that is a pretty good guideline. Here is one of her run this weekend:


As you can see, her hands are all over the places. So I guess she just have to spend more time on her skies to develop more balance to quiet down those hands.
post #32 of 44
Man, that is great stuff. She's a natural. I love the way she weights the down hill ski. I like watching kids with good stance. She is right over the ski and relaxed.

No poles needed yet from my viewpoint.
post #33 of 44

I watched you video. Very cool. Your daughter has no fear. How old is she? She has the same habit my 4 year old daughter has. When she turns left, her left arm points left and her right hand, with elbow up, comes in front of her chest. It looks like she's guiding an airplane into the gate at the airport.

For now, and for probably another year or two, I would not recommend poles. If she is begging for them, maybe get a short pair of poles and let her use them when she needs to push around at the bottom of the hill, then take them from her when you get on the lift and give them back when you get to the bottom again.
post #34 of 44
Thank you for posting the video.

While it is clear that she is swinging her hands around alot, that is no guarantee that she would continue to swing them while holding onto poles.

Telling her that she moves her arms too much to have them is not good for the little ego. She'll might say that will stop, or she might be very hurt.

I'd tell her she can't have them this year -- it's too late in the season. And only maybe next year. Then work on stabilizing her arms.

The drill: Hug the teddy bear. Pretend she is hugging a large teddy bear. So big that she can't get her arms around it.

If she can do that, she's ready for poles. But DON'T tell her that!

Good luck
post #35 of 44
I like that teddy-bear make-believe thing. Silver trays and beach balls are for grown ups.
post #36 of 44
No, beach balls, and chasing them around on the snow, IS for kids.
give it a try before you knock it. I came up with this when I was a teeen teching kids only.
It is absolutely wonderful.

keep the poles away from the kids, and the adults, for some time......
post #37 of 44
I guess it depends on the kid's personality. For some kids, the teddy bear beats any beach ball hands down; for others, it is the other way around.

I agree about the poles. But you know, when the kids get too nagging - let them try. Before the first hour with poles is out - they will start asking you to hold the poles while they are having fun skiing without them. Been through that phase much more than once.
post #38 of 44

Lose the poles, get your kid a lynx.

post #39 of 44
Thread Starter 
So, I held her back one season and allowed her to start using
her poles this season. She is 6 now. I haven't really taught her
how to use it and she obviously doesn't have much clue:


How/what should I teach to kids at this age regarding pole planting?
post #40 of 44
I actually spent the season BEFORE we added poles pointing out skiers who were using their poles correctly or incorrectly to my daughter as we rode the chair. I've never been able to explain how to do things, so pointing at other skiers as examples has always worked better.
post #41 of 44
Balance, Rotory, Edging before Poles---unless deep snow or on moguls.

Moguls not in a deep v....Like I see so much.
post #42 of 44
6 is what I was gonna say. Based on:

At the K ski club, the 5 year old group is not required to use poles. But the 6 year olds are (at least ours were when they were 6).
post #43 of 44
My four year-old's now in his second season and his instructor asked him to bring his poles for his second or third lesson this season. I was leaning toward the no-pole camp for a couple reasons. One, I remember seeing kids in Austria skiing without poles until about 8 or 10, and if the Austrians do it...And two, one less thing for Mom or Dad to carry to the hill. But I found that there are two benefits to the little guy having poles. First, his hands don't seem to get as cold now. Don't know if it's from the gripping or if he's moving his arms a little more. And second, most importantly, he can push on the flats. Not as well as an adult, but he can push. That's a real plus if you're skiing somewhere that has a lot of runout sections.
post #44 of 44
One more thing to consider.....

Can your kid get on the chair him/herself?? If not....keep away from the poles....either you or your instructor or some other adult helping the instructor for classes bigger than 3----will have to not only worry about your child, the other children but add poles to the mix. Kids don't want to drop them---"they are their poles after all" They should be focused on "Grabbing Metal" which is my montra each time we get on the lift. Generally there is a bar behind the seat.
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