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Atomic SL12 - short review

post #1 of 24
Thread Starter 
Hello,

Just got back from Flachau/Altenmarkt where Atomic factory is so we tested a couple of skies there so I made for you a short review of SL12 Race.

Atomic SL12 Race

The new design (red/white) replacing the old one (yellow/white) but you probably saw that on world cup races and IMHO it looks much better then the old model. The bigest difference is in radius which means that the sidecut is different. The old model (165cm) had r=14,5m and new model is r=12m - so 2,5m difference here.

When you put the ski on the slope you have to know that this is a slalom beast and it want tolerate easy ride. Activate your knees, give the ski some speed and just throw yourself thru turns – you will be rewarded by great stability and control. SL12 is agressive (but now so agressive as SL11), very fast and explosive.

The ski demands full cooperation with skier, decent concentration, no resting (keep this in mind) and a lot of work. On the end of your run your legs will burn like you just entered hell and you'll have ear to ear smile on your face. There is no „Let's take it easy“ with this one because when you put the ski in turn the edge bites like crazy (railroad ride) and will demand more power and more speed while you'll be screaming: „Give me the gates“.

SL12 is much more friendly then the old model, it goes thru snow really smooth but like SL11 it demands speed and good/great fitness level. Groomed slopes, hard snow and ice combined with fast and short turns are their home. With this ski you can go on pure ice slope and you would think it's a butter. The ski is pretty stiff and it will transfer vibration directly on your boot (nothing new but not so brutal like SL11 – ok, not sure about that coz I have Atomic Racing Department SL:11 and did not compared regular SL:11 version with SL12).

If you are good skier with good fitness level and you love short turns with a lot of speed then SL12 is what you want. If not, just forget about it because slow or regular ride and easy gliding on slope with this one is a waste of money and a waste of fun.

Kind regards...
post #2 of 24
Which length did you test? 165cm as well? What binding did they have? Same as last year?
Owned a pair of SL9.11 about 3 years back, before they've been stolen and I loved this ski. Now I'm on Rossi 9S, not as aggressive as the Atomics but o.k.
post #3 of 24
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Originally Posted by elkam
Which length did you test? 165cm as well? What binding did they have? Same as last year?
Owned a pair of SL9.11 about 3 years back, before they've been stolen and I loved this ski. Now I'm on Rossi 9S, not as aggressive as the Atomics but o.k.
there was no SL 9.11 that i am aware of. Did you mean SL 9.12. a completely different ski than the SL11
post #4 of 24
Thread Starter 
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Which length did you test? 165cm as well? What binding did they have? Same as last year?
Yes I've tested 165cm. Bindings were Neox412 I think (didn't really looked at bindings to much). The only diference I saw was the color coz they were white/red to match the ski colors.

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Owned a pair of SL9.11 about 3 years back
As Atomicman I also did not heard about SL 9.11 but I looked up on google and this came out. I don't know maybe 9.11 was some special model? Did not try this year Rossis but people say it's much better then 2005 model. Although I tested Fischer World Cup SC 2006 and 2007, and have to tell you that I liked them more then Atomic. Great ski, not so much hard work as on Atomic, pleasure to drive fast or slow, wonderfull stability whatever you do. If you love SL skies you should try World Cup SC or even SL (a little bit more agressive) and prepare yourself to be impressed :-)
post #5 of 24
By "race" do you mean race stock or production? My understanding is that the production was changing a great deal but that the race stock wasn't going to change all that much.
post #6 of 24
Thread Starter 
No, no, not race stock - regular SL12 production. I have race stock SL11 but tested regular version of SL12. It's just that on regular SL12 was written "Race" but no, those are not skis from Atomic Racing Department. I apologize for confusion.
post #7 of 24
Sojke, if you ski the Volkl Racetiger SL WC please tell me. I am very interested in this ski.
post #8 of 24
Very useful review..thanks!
post #9 of 24
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Originally Posted by sywsyw
Sojke, if you ski the Volkl Racetiger SL WC please tell me. I am very interested in this ski.
I ski the racetiger slc wc and it is absolutely incredible. I use it freeskiing and it is one of the easuer slalom race stock rides i have tried. Its edge hold is awesome and it is a lot of fun. It holds its own in bumps and cut up snow also. I highlhy reccomend it. If you get it make sure you get the world cup piston plate and the marker comp bindings.
Have fun!
post #10 of 24
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Originally Posted by skierecs7
I ski the racetiger slc wc and it is absolutely incredible. I use it freeskiing and it is one of the easuer slalom race stock rides i have tried. Its edge hold is awesome and it is a lot of fun. It holds its own in bumps and cut up snow also. I highlhy reccomend it. If you get it make sure you get the world cup piston plate and the marker comp bindings.
Have fun!
Thanks for the input. I was hoping for a freeskiing-frindly ski. My current ski is the P50 SLC WC and i love it. It is soft. I weigh 155lbs. Thwew has a sticker on one of the skis but i have no idea what the numbers and letters represent.
Could you tell me if the ski is soft or not? I guess it is pretty soft if it is freeskiing friendly. Do you ski the 165?


Thanks a lot!
Jamie
post #11 of 24
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Originally Posted by sywsyw
Thanks for the input. I was hoping for a freeskiing-frindly ski. My current ski is the P50 SLC WC and i love it. It is soft. I weigh 155lbs. Thwew has a sticker on one of the skis but i have no idea what the numbers and letters represent.
Could you tell me if the ski is soft or not? I guess it is pretty soft if it is freeskiing friendly. Do you ski the 165?
One more thing: could you tell me what the numbers and letters represent? I assume your pair has a sticker.
FWIW, on my ski it is written "070" and the letter is "A". Do you have any idea what they mean? I am pretty sure one of them is the flex. Perhaps an A flex=softest? This is important for me to know if i am going to buy a new ski.

Thanks a lot!
Jamie
I ski the 155. I am 5' 7" and weigh around 168lbs. I wouldn't call the ski soft. It still takes some muscle to move around. However I would call it soft when referring to other race skis. Skis like the atomic sl11, elan sl world cup ski, and fischer world cup ski are very stiff and hard to use as a freeski. The race tiger can definitely be used as a freeski. It doesn't really allow you to relax but doesn't kick you hard like other race skis. The skis are up in my mountain house so I am not sure what the sticker says, but I will try to find out and post next time ski. I hope this helps.

Eric
post #12 of 24
I was refering to other race stock skis when i said it is soft. I ski the 165. You have the women's ski and i was thinking of getting the same length.

Jamie
post #13 of 24
i ski the mens version and now that I think about it, it is a stiff ski. I skied my other skis (head im88) this past weekend and I was getting used to those which are easier than the racetigers. I bought them from a reputable guy who sais they are what is used in the world cup by racers like ted ligety!
post #14 of 24
Yes but you said you ski the 155. This is the women's length. Men are using the 165. Anyway, if i get the racetiger, it will probably be the 155. My P50 165 is an exception. Back in 2003, i think the men were racing on 155s (if i remember correctly). The 165 is probably stiffer than the 155.

Jamie
post #15 of 24
Yes I would imagine the 165 being stiffer than the 155.
post #16 of 24
The Volklguy i know confirmed that this morning. The 165 SLC WC is stiffer than the 155. It makes sense b/c the 155 is the women's ski and they could use a softer flex. This is what Atomic did with their women's ski. It has a softer flex than the men's model.

Oh, and sorry for the thread hijack
Jamie
post #17 of 24
The SL 12 looks like it has a slalom carver sidecut. Anybody know what is happening with the race stock? Dimensions? Turn radius? Will it be the SL 12 WC or are they still going to make the SL 11 WC?
post #18 of 24
Gruess Gott!

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Originally Posted by Sojke
As Atomicman I also did not heard about SL 9.11 but I looked up on google and this came out. I don't know maybe 9.11 was some special model?
Isn't the sl 9.11 the old detuned beta race version from 2001/2002 which eventually morphed into the sl 9? I think these had bright yellow (not gold) topsheets with red graphics.

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Originally Posted by Sojke
Did not try this year Rossis but people say it's much better then 2005 model. Although I tested Fischer World Cup SC 2006 and 2007, and have to tell you that I liked them more then Atomic. Great ski, not so much hard work as on Atomic, pleasure to drive fast or slow, wonderfull stability whatever you do. If you love SL skies you should try World Cup SC or even SL (a little bit more agressive) and prepare yourself to be impressed :-)
So if you had to choose one and you were primarily looking at a free ski you would pick the Fischer over the Atomic? And then the SC over the SL? What about the Elans, have you tried those?

Vielen Dank,

Kaj
post #19 of 24
i need a slalom ski for dry slope racing they can be 155 or 160 id prefer 155 my last skis were race department fischer sl which i loved but r now recked im considering some atomic sl12 but not sure they seem springy not sure if there to soft i also have the option of head isl fischer fires atomic sl11 sl12 and st11 st12 what do u all think im really stuck im tall 6 foot 2 14 stone very powerful in my skiing what do u all think ??? ohh and how do u post at "thread" on here i dotn no?
post #20 of 24
Accidentally I found this web page trying to find some thing about my SL12 on the google just for fun… and here it was.
I recently bought my SL12 Race from Atomic racing department! Oh… I must tell you that this is the ski with the capital letter.
I haven’t tested normal SL12, so I will not be able to compare them. My previous ski was Head XRC 1200i. They are totally different skis so won’t go into details. When I tested Atomics for the fist time I felt in love immediately . Before that I tested new model of HEAD WORLDCUP SUPERSHAPE. My girl friend bought the ST12 also from Atomic racing department and they are 156, so if you like the performance of Atomic race department skies but would like a bit more lighter, shorter and no that monstress skies as SL12 then I would suggest these one. Atomics are much more harder than my XRC or new WC Supershape. I just couldn’t get enough of this ski, so I just have to buy it. All though they have only one length 165 which was a bit longer than my precious XRC (156) still they are quite easy to turn, but off course as it was all ready mentioned it does not tolerate any compromises – you have to go hard on that ski. It is really just made for the racing slope.
The difficult part abut this ski starts on the powder or very soft and deep snow. This ski is much too heavy for that. They weight about 8kg which is quite a lot!
Any how, this is not all mountain ski but if you like the speed and you have the gut & muscles for it then do not hesitate to get pair of these. :
BTW: they cost quite a lot unfortunately… :

Nice to join this forum!
post #21 of 24
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Originally Posted by janis.musins View Post
Accidentally I found this web page trying to find some thing about my SL12 on the google just for fun… and here it was.
I recently bought my SL12 Race from Atomic racing department! Oh… I must tell you that this is the ski with the capital letter.
I haven’t tested normal SL12, so I will not be able to compare them. My previous ski was Head XRC 1200i. They are totally different skis so won’t go into details. When I tested Atomics for the fist time I felt in love immediately . Before that I tested new model of HEAD WORLDCUP SUPERSHAPE. My girl friend bought the ST12 also from Atomic racing department and they are 156, so if you like the performance of Atomic race department skies but would like a bit more lighter, shorter and no that monstress skies as SL12 then I would suggest these one. Atomics are much more harder than my XRC or new WC Supershape. I just couldn’t get enough of this ski, so I just have to buy it. All though they have only one length 165 which was a bit longer than my precious XRC (156) still they are quite easy to turn, but off course as it was all ready mentioned it does not tolerate any compromises – you have to go hard on that ski. It is really just made for the racing slope.
The difficult part abut this ski starts on the powder or very soft and deep snow. This ski is much too heavy for that. They weight about 8kg which is quite a lot!
Any how, this is not all mountain ski but if you like the speed and you have the gut & muscles for it then do not hesitate to get pair of these. :
BTW: they cost quite a lot unfortunately… :

Nice to join this forum!
You really can't compare a Race Stock SL12 to A Supershape. You should be comparing the SL12 Race Stock to a Head iSL RD Vist WC. I think you would be pleasantly surprised.
post #22 of 24
You think RD Vist are better than Atomics? I’ve heard of them but unfortunately never got my hand on them.
post #23 of 24
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Originally Posted by janis.musins View Post
You think RD Vist are better than Atomics? I’ve heard of them but unfortunately never got my hand on them.
I was speaking of the Head Race Stock slalom with a Vist plate.
post #24 of 24
yep, I've got it!
So have you tried it? Is still better than SL12?
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