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Buying first skis - Need help! (8/10 skill level)

post #1 of 24
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Hi folks, hope someone can help.

I've been skiing now for the past 23 years and I'm only now ready to buy my first set but I want to obviously make the right decision as it could be a costly mistake! I have my own boots and got em custom fitted so they're sorted.

I'm 6'3" and weigh 196lbs and reckon I'm a pretty decent skier.

I'll be doing mostly on-piste stuff including moguls, aiming for fast sharp turns (although my mogul technique could be better!). Every now and again, I'll go into some trickier stuff through trees and rocks. I'm poor (crap in fact) in deep powder!

I want to try my hand at some rails if I get a chance and have the balls.

I've always gone for a long ski for speed but just back from Tahoe where I had a shorter ski and it was great fun in the turn :-)

I'm off to Zermatt in Switzerland in about a month so I'd love to get my skis by then.

Any suggestions?
Cheers,
Knoxy
post #2 of 24
Quote:
Originally Posted by knoxy
Hi folks, hope someone can help.

I'm 6'3" and weigh 196lbs and reckon I'm a pretty decent skier.

I'll be doing mostly on-piste stuff including moguls, aiming for fast sharp turns (although my mogul technique could be better!). Every now and again, I'll go into some trickier stuff through trees and rocks. I'm poor (crap in fact) in deep powder!

Any suggestions?
Cheers,
Knoxy
Hi Knoxy and welcome to Epic,

The Atomic SL9 in 160cm, Head iXRC 1100 in a 170cm,Fischer RX6 in a 170cm, Nordica Speedmachine 14.1 in a 170cm, Volkl 5 star in a 168cm.

These fit the above description.

Hope that helps,

Michael
post #3 of 24
An RX8 might be nice as well. You should let us know what you've been skiing (boots as well) so that we have a better idea of what you might like.
post #4 of 24
Thread Starter 
Hi guys,
Cheers for getting back to me, appreciated! The boots I have are the Rossignol Power 90's.

Funny you should mention the RX8 - I noticed them when I was looking up the RX6, and was thinking of mentioning them to see if they would suit.

I live in the UK and I can't really seem to find many places that stock the Fischer brand though. I'm in Switzerland and thought about buying there except that country tends to be very expensive!!

As for ski's that I have used, they've all been rentals and I've never really paid much attention to what they were apart from the fact that I'll hire the performance ski's - last few years, they've all been carver skis. Fat on the ends, narrow in the middle.

I tend to go for the black runs (single/dbl diamond) and I can nail the normal mogul fields pretty well. When they get really big (large peaks and troughs) I tend to struggle more but get down em okay, my technique just looks and feels worse


Cheers,
Knoxy
post #5 of 24
You may be able to pick up (and demo), some nice Stockli skis while in Switzerland. Their web site has a number of centers.

Sharp turns and fast cruising ... try the SC.
post #6 of 24
I have the RX8s in 175 and like them alot. I weigh 225-230.

Mark
post #7 of 24
don't make a mistake and buy a ski with too skinny a waist. get something in a 75 to 82 mm. at waist, hopefully in zermatt the snow will be soft, and unless you're on hardpack and ice all day you'll appreciate the versatility. besides, it'll let you ski the soft stuff and allow you to get to the pow, and that's where the real fun is. the wider the waist, the easier in the deep stuff. don't be intimidated and take your skiing to the next leve. good luck
post #8 of 24
If you are having trouble finding fischer skis in switzerland you might consider a quick trip to italy. The Cisalfa sports stores seem to carry alot of different models: RX4, RX6 and RX8---also an RX5--which I am trying to get more info on since I bought them last year.
mcs
post #9 of 24
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by beebedave
don't make a mistake and buy a ski with too skinny a waist. get something in a 75 to 82 mm. at waist, hopefully in zermatt the snow will be soft, and unless you're on hardpack and ice all day you'll appreciate the versatility. besides, it'll let you ski the soft stuff and allow you to get to the pow, and that's where the real fun is. the wider the waist, the easier in the deep stuff. don't be intimidated and take your skiing to the next leve. good luck
Hmm, what about the Stockli Stormrider XL's? They're wider for a bit more variation in skiing conditions. Reviews seem to be favourable too...

Knoxy
post #10 of 24
After 23 years of renting, why not renting again during your trip to Zermatt with the goal to really test various skis you consider to buy! Zermatt should have plenty rental shops with all kinds of skis for you.
You said in the past you didn't really care what you've rented and you obviously went along quite well.
Another thing you should consider is the number of ski days per season. You said this is about 10. With that number I would probably continue to rent - latest models every season - no hassel with service - ...

Have fun in Zermatt!
post #11 of 24
The RX 6 is a great ski, you can't go wrong with Fischers in general!
post #12 of 24
Thread Starter 
Cheers for advice guys, appreciated - think I'm gonna go for the RX8's.

PS: If I 'did' decide to try my hand at a rail, how mucher tougher would it be on these skis? I know they have quite a narrow sidecut in the middle and I'm assuming that makes quite a difference!

Knoxy
post #13 of 24
Definitely give the rx8s a try. Also the atomic metrons probably an m11 or b5 would workl well too. You would also love the head supershape.
post #14 of 24
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Originally Posted by knoxy
PS: If I 'did' decide to try my hand at a rail, how mucher tougher would it be on these skis? I know they have quite a narrow sidecut in the middle and I'm assuming that makes quite a difference!

Knoxy
If you take new RX8's on a rail in a terrain park, I'm gonna come across the pond and swat you in the back of the head! Well, on second thought, if you wanna ruin em and buy new skis all the time, go right ahead! I'm sure you could slide it, but if a rail is what you want, you are buying the wrong ski... sounds like you know that though.

Better thought: HUGE GS Turns down your favorite black groomers (over and over till your lips turn blue from the wind!) then a few bangin' runs down a nice steep mogul run, followed by several pints of your favorite lager. Then... REPEAT... till you start falling!!! Have fun dude! New skis are a great feeling!
post #15 of 24
Gotta concur on not recommending rails. I don't know how it works on the pipe/park type skis, but wouldn't that just kill the tune, edges, and overall durability of a regular ski?
post #16 of 24
Yes it does ruin a regular ski. Last year I stupidly tried to ride a rail with my regular skis ('01-'02 Dynastar Ski Cross 66 Autodrive) and blew out an edge. The skis have never been the same since. I'm now in the market for a new pair of skis myself (which isn't such a bad thing as I can now take advantage of the mid-fat developments but the expense kinda hurts).

My advice: stay away from rails unless you have park skis and know what you're doing. You'll regret it!! Someone at a ski shop once told me (I don't know whether it's true) that as soon as you take a pair of skis on a rail, you immediately void the manufacturer's warranty!! I don't imagine that's true for twin tip skis designed for park and pipe but the point is, most skis are not designed for rail riding.
post #17 of 24
If you want to get RX8's in Europe for a good price, there is a German company named Ski Bilek. I know this from the snowheads.com forum as they all seem to get their RX8's there.
post #18 of 24
Thread Starter 
ski-bilek - yeah, i'd heard about em from the same guys!

i learnt that i will never be buying a pair of skis in the UK

I will also be taking my skis nowhere near a rail if i do buy em!
post #19 of 24
Yeah, railing is not the best idea for new edges. If you've been renting for years and years, you must have some favs, yes? Disagree you should pop for a new pair of RX8's (or anything else) unless you have a sense of what you like in a ski beyond the length. Do you prefer French or Teutonic? Do you like lively or damp? Power or finesse? Do you tend to steer bumps and trees, or carve groomed, or want to improve your pow float? More specifics would help folks here get beyond my-sticks-rock-you'll-love-them-too.
post #20 of 24
Knoxy

As you describe your skiing ability, you really need to demo skis before you buy. If you were able to line up all the skis that are suitable for your ability and style, you'd find a few that felt dreadful to you, many that are OK, and a few that put a huge smile on your face. Demo as many as you can. Buying skis from someone else's suggestion is for skiers that don't have the ability to feel which skis are working for them and which skis are not...and which are working against them.


Ken
post #21 of 24

buying rx8's

nows the time to buy the RX8 in europe---seems the discounts are big. in italy anyway.
i just got pair of new RX8 with FX12 bindings for €420.00
happy hunting.
mcs
post #22 of 24
Thread Starter 
Cheers guys! My RX8's turned up the other day and look great, can't wait to try em out in 2 weeks. Found them for a great deal, £230 including shipping and fitting with the FX11's! Wahoo!
post #23 of 24
Thread Starter 
Bought em direct from Germany which is why I saved a packet :-)
post #24 of 24
Quote:
Originally Posted by beebedave
don't make a mistake and buy a ski with too skinny a waist. get something in a 75 to 82 mm. at waist, hopefully in zermatt the snow will be soft, and unless you're on hardpack and ice all day you'll appreciate the versatility.
Not to be argumentative, but living in Utah I ski an SL ski w/ a 65mm waist for my every day ski. (But fat and long for full on powder days.) Because it is so shapley it has plenty of float for soft stuff, and is reasonably stable in cut up crud, and I love having the direct edge feel that a small waisted ski can give one. I know many people who are far better skiers than I am who ski something similar alost all the time. Different strokes..
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