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post #61 of 79
vlad, better just to link to the thread.

Jeff is certainly one of the good ones (he did my XTs), but he spends less time on alignment than some others. Jim Lindsay is another excellent fitter (out of Aspen), and GMOL is now in Vail, as well.

We are fortunate here in Colorado, that's certain.
post #62 of 79
gracias, esteban- i'm still fumbling with the forum's nuances

jeff's a gifted skier, i remember the first day he walked into my mom's ski school for his first lesson. within two years, he was skiing circles around much of the staff, and getting hired and fired with me from places like stowe and smuggler's. he got his bootfitting start while helping me (profoundly) with a team i was coaching, he absolutely devoured every available resource to become a truly great bootfitter (although I typically used gunnar at squaw), and maybe an even better coach and instructor.
he was kicking myass on skis in his third or fourth season. brilliant athlete/technician, and, yes- you colorado guys do breathe the bottled stuff. the resources up there are phenomenal. sometimes i miss my seasons teaching and coaching in summit.
post #63 of 79

Expectedly Pathetic

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Originally Posted by vlad
Golly.

kind of what i'd expect from a level III.
when you run out of any logical argument, forget about actually considering new ideas.
Just accuse the other professional of impertinence, refer to him as 'his highness', and suggest that he's psychologically impaired.

small wonder the PSIA is doing "so" well.

lose the hate. you might actually absorb some new info and improve as an instructor.....
funny, though- thinking along 'party lines', wearing insignia that displays one's party affiliation, suggesting that anyone whom thinks outside those party lines requires psychological counselling or more.....
you would have fit in well in munich in '38
Vlad,

Incrediably pathetic response. At least you were skilled enought to look at my profile and discover the gold pin. Unfortunately everything you posted from there on was presumptive, antagonistic BS.

You nothing about me , how I teach, what I teach, my success with students and presume I fall within some "party line". Your assumptions and correlation don't even rate as laughable they are so weak.

Your reference to Munich-too bad you weren't smart enought to capitalize it- is perjorative ,insulting and demeaning to all who suffered that tyranny.
I'm sure it is beyond you to apologize to all those you insulted with that insinuation.
post #64 of 79
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Originally Posted by mikewil
Vlad,

Incrediably pathetic response. At least you were skilled enought to look at my profile and discover the gold pin. Unfortunately everything you posted from there on was presumptive, antagonistic BS.your assumptions and

You nothing about me , how I teach, what I teach, my success with students and presume I fall within some "party line". Your assumptions and correlation don't even rate as laughable they are so weak.

Your reference to Munich-too bad you weren't smart enought to capitalize it- is perjorative ,insulting and demeaning to all who suffered that tyranny.
I'm sure it is beyond you to apologize to all those you insulted with that insinuation.
actually, i've never looked up your profile. i believe this is the first i've heard directly from you, but paranoid narcissism can be a good thing, in some weird prison cultures, so go, you!

you're busting my chops for not capitalizing "munich"? actually, if we're gonna bust chops for typos, 'enough' doesn't have a "t" in it, braniac. why not bust my balls for not spelling it 'munchen', which is the correct, native spelling? you'll notice i rarely use caps, as forums, to me, follow email decorum, that is, punctuation such as capitalization is pretty much optional.
hell- if you're going to challenge my intellect by noting that i didn't capitalize 'munich' (oooh, look! i'm still not capitalizing it! neither do most germans!), please tell me what your sentence: "you nothing about me..." actually means. that's sho'nuff some bizarre-ass english, there, 'perfesser'....
so, anyway- you go on to tell me:
"your assumptions and correlation don't even rate as laughable, they're so weak"....ummmm... news flash, mensamike: you assumed that i looked up your profile (i didn't).
hey- no bigs...just 'cause you're paranoid, it doesn't mean they're all out to get you.
anyway, ease off, relax, go polish your pin ( ) and hit the bong.
it'll all be better in the morning.
geeziz h. cripes! why are there so many overemotive, intimidatable testosterone cases here?
get a sense of humour, mike. it's a swell thing to have.
it's only skiing and the 'net. relax.
smile!
lightening up will definitely make you a better instructor.

jeeeeziz H!
post #65 of 79
Nolo,
Harold H has taken a verbal or visual cue (the fantom foot) for basicly knock kneed skiers and built an entire system around it. ATS is based on the anatomy of the body in motion as related to skiing and built a teaching system to develope learning those motion skills.
A verbal or visual skill is a small part of effective learning.

OOh might I mention glm, the Cliff Taylor thing, or Ruatt (pivot around the tips) or the Aruburg (reverse sholder).

Some are more techniques not systems.

RW
post #66 of 79
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Originally Posted by Ron White
Nolo,
Harold H has taken a verbal or visual cue (the fantom foot) for basicly knock kneed skiers and built an entire system around it. ATS is based on the anatomy of the body in motion as related to skiing and built a teaching system to develope learning those motion skills.
A verbal or visual skill is a small part of effective learning.

OOh might I mention glm, the Cliff Taylor thing, or Ruatt (pivot around the tips) or the Aruburg (reverse sholder).

Some are more techniques not systems.

RW
(you mean "arlberg'?...that's STILL taught- yikes!)
glm was making a bizarre semi-comeback about 10 years ago, as i remember. my family was dead-set against it in their school in the very early '70s.... i've always thought that for new tech shaped skis, a li'l smattering of GLM is actually somewhat helpful. cliff taylor. didn't he sing 'wild thing' with the troggs? oh, wait- that was chip.......
post #67 of 79
OOh, I wouldn't have posted if I read all of the posts. I don't like getting into the middle of a pi$$ing match.

RW
post #68 of 79
don't worry-there's NO pissing match. nothing to see here, keep moving
anyway- did you mean the arlberg technique (which i had to learn as a tyke, and which i have still seen being employe din europe), or is there an aruburg system? i seriously am interested.
thanks, ron, and again, ignore the wreck along the road, plough forward with a grin and look always to the light
it's only skiing!!!!!
post #69 of 79
vlad,
Sorry for the typo, did the other kids in your class pick on you??

RW
post #70 of 79
Thread Starter 
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Some are more techniques not systems.
Why did the ATM (American Teaching Method) change to the ATS (American Teaching System)? Is a system somehow more, better, stronger than a method? I don't get why people think attaching the word system to a detailed explanation (manual) gives it more weight.
post #71 of 79
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Originally Posted by Ron White
vlad,
Sorry for the typo, did the other kids in your class pick on you??

RW
ron- i asked very, very politely, thinking you blessedly may have meant a methodology I wasn't aware of.
no sarcasm involved. Incidentally, when the spelling is that far off, it's not considered a "typo". It's a total misspelling.

why the anger, Ron? I do typos every post I tyoe,a nd many absolute rearrangements of letters, etc.
at ease, big fella.
It's only skiing, and it's only "The Net".

we're not enemies, my friend.
post #72 of 79
"It's only skiing"

...is that the title of "the book?" [I see the reference made a lot in your posts]
post #73 of 79
Quote:
Originally Posted by nolo
Why did the ATM (American Teaching Method) change to the ATS (American Teaching System)? Is a system somehow more, better, stronger than a method? I don't get why people think attaching the word system to a detailed explanation (manual) gives it more weight.
i remmeber this early 80s changeover vividly.
it was resultant of folks like chris easton and willie tate having the prescience to realize that soon, people would make their withdrawals from cash machines, and the homonic acronym would turn all examiners into money changers were drastic semantic measures not taken, immediately.
post #74 of 79
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Originally Posted by HeluvaSkier
"It's only skiing"

...is that the title of "the book?" [I see the reference made a lot in your posts]
stop the presses!
TITLE CHANGE!!!!!

Actually, it's called:
"The Unbearable Lightness Of Skiing"...catchy, right?
I mean, I am a czech resident
Milan "Vlad" Kundera
post #75 of 79
Maybe an idea for a second?
post #76 of 79
Quote:
Originally Posted by nolo
Why did the ATM (American Teaching Method) change to the ATS (American Teaching System)? Is a system somehow more, better, stronger than a method? I don't get why people think attaching the word system to a detailed explanation (manual) gives it more weight.
pardon me, ma'am, but I think our friend in Wisdom MT could tell you some informative things about this.
post #77 of 79
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Originally Posted by vlad
ken beat me to the morphology punch.
many of you posters here are still so sealed and strapped into the box that you miss the big picture of the incredible variety in pupil morphology.
shame.

Is this the pot calling the kettle black?
post #78 of 79
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Originally Posted by SkiDogNW
Is this the pot calling the kettle black?


errr.....if you can find a case of me saying that all skiers have the same somatotype, then i guess it would be. but being no such case exists, welllll, i guess it isn't.
post #79 of 79
Hey Vlad,
The ATM comment is a hoot! It reminds me of the ATM scene in the movie The Stepford Wives.
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