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utah best resorts with no new snow?

post #1 of 17
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Hi Folks, will be travelling to utah feb 11-18. 4th visit in five years. always have had new snow during my previous stays. the long range forecast for that time period looks somewhat disappointing/dry. where are the best places in utah to ski if there hasnt been any new snow for a week or so?
all opinions appreciated

ps whistler is getting hammered

thanks with regards
post #2 of 17
that is very simple, the 4 cottonwood resorts. snowbird and alta rule, but the big c's are nice for a 1/2 day.
post #3 of 17

Just back...suggestions...

We skied Alta Jan 22-28. Last snow was Jan 19/20, and it was cool/sunny first two days, then warm/sunny next two.

We found the backside at Alta held up REALLY well, especially Greely bowl, Gunsight, and the trees/bumps skiers left of Greely Hill. Also the chutes and pitches skiers left of High Rustler (Stonecrusher et al) were well sun protected. All the above mentioned would be dangerous on ice, but on semipacked it was joy.

Our patience paid off on the final day of our trip, by the way...10 inches new, falling all day, and exactly zero lines.

We skied Snowbird only one day, and with Gad 2 closed (now reopened) and Mineral Basin too sun affected, we didn't go back. Part of the reason was inertia, as we were staying on-hill at Alta, part was a sense of less interesting choice, but I'm sure that opinion will raise howls of protest, and for sure one day maketh not any vast experience.

No experience elsewhere in Utah.

Have fun!
post #4 of 17
Deer Valley is psychotic about grooming, so if that's your thing you can bet their trails are in decent shape. Otherwise, head to the cottonwood canyon area and look for the hidden stashes.
post #5 of 17
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Originally Posted by ChrisBowers
Deer Valley is psychotic about grooming, so if that's your thing you can bet their trails are in decent shape. Otherwise, head to the cottonwood canyon area and look for the hidden stashes.
Get off the groomers and you should still be able to find some untracked. DV will have plenty of untracked after a dump. When it dumps every one heads to the Cottonwoods, yets 2-3 days later there is still untracked to be had. Many other here have said this in other posts.
post #6 of 17
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Originally Posted by extremeskier
Hi Folks, will be travelling to utah feb 11-18. 4th visit in five years. always have had new snow during my previous stays. the long range forecast for that time period looks somewhat disappointing/dry. where are the best places in utah to ski if there hasnt been any new snow for a week or so?
all opinions appreciated

ps whistler is getting hammered

thanks with regards
God forbid. A trip to Utah w/o new snow?!?

The latest GFS model shows a continental (artic origin) front moving past on the 14th & 15th. These might not be huge snow producers, but what does fall is the lightest, fluffiest snow you can get. We had one in mid December that left 8 -12" on the mountains, and big smiles on everyone's face. If not that, then there's always hiking for turns. You can get freshies two weeks after a storm.

Powdr
post #7 of 17
I'd say forget LCC. The snow is superb, but Alta and Snowbird are most quickly tracked-out (unless you're a well-ensconced local who knows all the stashes).

If you seek fresh long after a storm, Solitude is a better bet. Honeycomb canyon has fresh days after a storm, if you keep traversing the far side the canyon.

Even better, Powder Mountain rarely runs out of fresh tracks. It's a bit of an odd layout, and off the beaten path. But, if you want the goods, they've got it in spades.

Finally, if you've given up on fresh, head to Snowbasin. They have the best groomed runs I've ever seen - Wildflower and the Men's Downhill run are unsurpassed for in-bounds vert.

Strawberry is another great Snowbasin lift for hammering vertical. Most runs there also have excellent fall-line orientation, and the lifts are state-of-the-art.
post #8 of 17
I think the posters after me didn't really read the question, I doubt you are going to find much fresh snow, except for a turn or two, at any resort(maybe powder mtn??) when it hasn't snowed for a week in SLC.


For sure, whenever it did snow, one week prior the LCC resorts had more, and in my way of understanding, except for the very high parts of the PCMResorts, the LCC resorts will hold up much, much better, top to bottom. Deer Valley might be a good choice for fluff, 2-3 days after a storm, but 7 days later, just say no! If it has been cold for those 7 days, less of an effect, but if it has gone into the 30's in PC, forget it and stay on the other side of the hill.
post #9 of 17
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Originally Posted by SnowbirdDevotee
I think the posters after me didn't really read the question, I doubt you are going to find much fresh snow, except for a turn or two, at any resort(maybe powder mtn??) when it hasn't snowed for a week in SLC...

Yes, I *did* read the question. I quite clearly told the OP of the time-honored strategy of hiking for turns, least of which can be done in Cottonwoods due to over-use. I assure you, that far more than a turn or two can be had several weeks after a storm, mid winter, with temperatures in the 30's during the day. It's called re-crystallization, and it forms a wonderful surface nightly durng non-stormy periods. You just have to not look through Snowbird colored lenses to find it.

Powdr
post #10 of 17
Lets face it most people are lazy and don't want to hike for thier turns. Even a very small trek at PCMR to get to the Desert is too much work for a lot of skiers. Treking up to Pinecone is totally out of the question.
Getting some fresh tracks 7 days into a dry spell is going to take some doing no matter where you ski. Solitude would be a good bet so would Snowbasin. Powder mountain is a good choice.
post #11 of 17
Utah49, "let's face it", your a knowledgeable local, it's a whole different ballgame for you.
post #12 of 17
I agree with Powdr that a small amount of hiking can make a big difference in snow quality and is worth the extra effort. It helps to have some local knowledge though and proper safety training is essential. You might want to consider signing up for the Interconnect tour. The guides will take you between DV/PCMR and the resorts in the Cottonwood Canyons via the backcountry and they will find some nice stashes for you to ski. I did the tour for the first time on Sunday and had a great time. You can also hire backcountry guides (i.e. Exum) for a similar price and have more flexibility about which terrain you ski than you would on the Interconnect tour. We may try that next year. In terms of resorts, we were pleasantly surprised by Solitude (Honeycomb Canyon in particular), which we skied as part of the Interconnect tour. It gets about the same amount of snow as Alta and Snowbird, but because the crowds are non-existent, I would think that powder stashes would be much better preserved.
post #13 of 17
does anyone know the long term forecast for feb 18-25th.


park city area
alta
post #14 of 17
it looks like they have some snow on the way
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post #16 of 17

Hey SBD: Remember.....

when you said this:

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Originally Posted by SnowbirdDevotee
I...I doubt you are going to find much fresh snow, except for a turn or two, at any resort(maybe powder mtn??) when it hasn't snowed for a week in SLC...
well, what about this?


Found this today (2/25/06), SEVEN days after the last storm, with the temps in PC in the 30s & 40s. Three runs of it the whole way down, 1000K vert each. You just gotta know where to look. Hope your enjoying Snowbird this week. If you want some untracked while your here.....

Powdr
post #17 of 17
Powder Mountain has the least amount of traffic of almost any resort. It's also huge so it doesn't get tracked out as easy. They have an area called powder country which is pretty much lift served back country. Lots of powder back there but it ends at a road where you have to take a quick shuttle back. The Paradise chair leads to some pretty steep terrain also. I have found feet of snow in some areas days after a storm. Cheap lift tickets, cheap food, and 7 dollar cat rides to more areas. It drags you up but what the hell. Not a bad place to spend a day.
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