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Elan SLX/ Fischer WC SL 165cm - anyone tried them?

post #1 of 13
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I currently have some 2004 Labs that are starting to disintegrate: not a lot of edge left, maybe enough for this season, and the flex is starting to get very soft. I like them out of the course, but they arwe just "too-easy" to ski on race day: doesn't seek the falline and just feels flat. This may be due to their ripe old age, but they always felt kind of dead due to their soft flex (and very soft tail): forgiving unless you go into the backseat, wich I tend to do somewhat when things get hairy.

With that in mind, and after searching around, I've came to the conclusion that the Elans and Fischer might be what I'm looking for:
a) I really like the feeling of the Fischer GS that I have (smooth, while full of energy)
b) I want something more burly, but quick and stable (on the damper side of things)
c) They come flat, meaning you can mount anything you want (the Fischers have a plate) and I have bindings lying around wich are just waiting to get mounted

I'm 5'6" and around 150 lbs, and, obviously, a racer.

PS: I'm talking about the "cheater tips" Fischers, not the 166cm version. Still race stock, but a bit softer for smaller guys like me.
post #2 of 13
Tried 'em both, and they both rock. I like the Elan a little better, but you can't go wrong either way. I wouldn't discount the Volkls either..... Their SL is pretty dialed in this year.
post #3 of 13
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Tried 'em both, and they both rock. I like the Elan a little better, but you can't go wrong either way. I wouldn't discount the Volkls either..... Their SL is pretty dialed in this year.
Thanks! What plate/binding were on the Elan?
post #4 of 13
I own a pair of race stock Fischer 165 WC slaloms and they're awesome skis. One thing to be aware of though, as I'm sure you know, most Fischers are paired with that VIST plate or something similar, and if I remember correctly start out somewhere in the neighborhood of 30-33mm off the snow before you even mount up a binding. Not sure if you need to get by the FIS regulations, but you'll need to be careful about which binding you choose.
post #5 of 13
Fischer race skis are extremely popular around here because they are a very "white bread" type ski- they dont really favor power or finesse, leaving it up to the skier how to handle them.
post #6 of 13

cheaters no more allowed

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Originally Posted by jeffr
PS: I'm talking about the "cheater tips" Fischers, not the 166cm version. Still race stock, but a bit softer for smaller guys like me.
jeff,

take notice that from this season on the Fis limit is 165 +/- 1cm and that skis that are shorter but come with SL tip are no longer allowed!
post #7 of 13
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I own a pair of race stock Fischer 165 WC slaloms and they're awesome skis. One thing to be aware of though, as I'm sure you know, most Fischers are paired with that VIST plate or something similar, and if I remember correctly start out somewhere in the neighborhood of 30-33mm off the snow before you even mount up a binding. Not sure if you need to get by the FIS regulations, but you'll need to be careful about which binding you choose.
I'll slap on some S916, wich, if memory serve, really don't have that much lift, so I'll probably get around 50-55mm.

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take notice that from this season on the Fis limit is 165 +/- 1cm and that skis that are shorter but come with SL tip are no longer allowed!
Ok, so that pretty much leaves me with the option of going with the full-on 166 or with the Elans.
post #8 of 13
hey man I'm a J2 that races in VARA (vermont) and I'm on Heads. My buddy coinsidentally was on Elans last year and Fischers this year. His Elans last year were awful, sorry to badmouth them but I do not like Elan ski's.
Fischers are stiff stiff stiff, but very very good ski's if you can turn them. It doesnt sound like you would be able to. NO offense at all, I'm just saying.
The possibility of the production race Atomics (softer than race stock Atomics) might be a good idea.
Or Heads? I love heads. They are very very springy, very stable, and very "turney". If you are worried about a lame ski that will die out, you dont have to worry about that with Heads. They are also medium/stiff. Sounds good for you.
I'm 5'9 and weigh 165 and love them.
post #9 of 13
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hey man I'm a J2 that races in VARA (vermont) and I'm on Heads. My buddy coinsidentally was on Elans last year and Fischers this year. His Elans last year were awful, sorry to badmouth them but I do not like Elan ski's.
Fischers are stiff stiff stiff, but very very good ski's if you can turn them. It doesnt sound like you would be able to. NO offense at all, I'm just saying.
The possibility of the production race Atomics (softer than race stock Atomics) might be a good idea.
Or Heads? I love heads. They are very very springy, very stable, and very "turney". If you are worried about a lame ski that will die out, you dont have to worry about that with Heads. They are also medium/stiff. Sounds good for you.
I'm 5'9 and weigh 165 and love them.
What did you not like abou the Elans? Overall feel? Too dead? Not stable enough? And no offense about the comment about the Fischers, that's why I was asking about the cheater model, wich is meant for lighter guys like me.

Production Atomics, you don't even want to hear me on this one Especially the slalom version.

Head? Surprised to hear that they are now turny and springy, because when I tried them in 2004 (the ugly gray ones) it was damp as all hell and very, very, very stable, but it felt like skiing the quivalent of a bigrig. Unbendable unless on bullet proof race day ice, but very powerful. Maybe things have changed since then. BTW, the gs last year was a freaking machine: that thing ripped and ripped and ripped, so maybe things have REALLY changed.
post #10 of 13
I havent tried the elans but i own a pair of 2005 Fischer WC SL 156. I'm 5"10 130lbs and they are not to stiff for me. I used to race FIS and i wish i would've had these skis to help me win some races. They are very lively and demand to be pushed. I dont have the VIST race plate on mine, but a blank plate.
post #11 of 13
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I havent tried the elans but i own a pair of 2005 Fischer WC SL 156. I'm 5"10 130lbs and they are not to stiff for me. I used to race FIS and i wish i would've had these skis to help me win some races. They are very lively and demand to be pushed. I dont have the VIST race plate on mine, but a blank plate.
Thanks, but I really need a 165, both for speed and regulations (I'll probably race a master slalom or two next year at Stoneham).
post #12 of 13
PM ScotSkier. He purchased both a pair of the Elan SLX WC's and Head i-SL RD's from me. Last I heard, he was loving the Elans, and hadn't tried the Heads. The Elan is a great ski: stable, lighter underfoot than some of the heavier Austrian skis, very powerful, no speed limit, energetic, and somewhat forgiving. There are several people on the board who are skiing them as well, if you do a search. Maybe the guy above who didn't like them had a bad tune? They don't come tuned, and a bad tune will make it ski terribly. I have only skied the Fischer 166cm: it was stiffer, and better for heavier skiers. Sorry I don't have feedback on the 165cm.
post #13 of 13
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Cool, I bought some Fischer from him that he said ripped and I'm loving them, so I guess we both have the same skiing dynamics. Did you sold him the ski with a plate or compeltly flat?
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