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post #31 of 53
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Originally Posted by vlad
anyone else here ever ski with him?
I haven't skied with him, but I have spent some time with working on product testing for the Dalbello Krypton.
post #32 of 53
how did you like italy?
post #33 of 53
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Originally Posted by vlad
how did you like italy?
Not is Italy, but been on the product giving them feedback.
post #34 of 53
regardless, i'm stoked that dalbello picked up that fumble. seems like the perfect boot for me. my last years riding for raichle had me in F1s, which seemed a mediocre cookie-cutter boot.
I ebayed most of my F1s before even opening the boxes, and found old used flexons with which to run my thermofits.
I still have a pair of flexons from when they gave me the boots i loved.
post #35 of 53
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Originally Posted by vlad
regardless, i'm stoked that dalbello picked up that fumble.
Hardly a fumble. Raichle produced the Flexon from around 1980 with the Flexon 5 to 00 and change when Kneissl took them over. The Flexon had a following from the best mogul skiers on the planet including Nelson Carmichael to some pf the best downhillers too. There are people out there that are "dumpster diving" for Flexon parts to keep ther beloved Fleons alive. Is the Krypton a a better boot? Absolutely, but if there wasn't a Krypton, I would still be in a Flexon. Again Raichle didn't fumble.
post #36 of 53
phil, you missed the point.
it was a fumble, albeit an unintentional, unavoidable fumble.
post #37 of 53
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Originally Posted by vlad
phil, you missed the point.
it was a fumble, albeit an unintentional, unavoidable fumble.
I must have "the point", where was the "fumble", please explain.
post #38 of 53
the fumble is/was raichle's halting of flexon production, we all know the death-in-the-family scenario involved, but stopping production of the winningest ski boot in ski race history is a huge fumble.
post #39 of 53
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Originally Posted by vlad
the fumble is/was raichle's halting of flexon production, we all know the death-in-the-family scenario involved, but stopping production of the winningest ski boot in ski race history is a huge fumble.
There were 4 people (other than me) buying them. As good as the boot was, it was a dynosaur. The molds were antiquated and were also on their last legs. There was not enough left int the "Flexon" tank to keep the product line afloat. Raiichle tried every aspect to keep them around, they (Kneissl) even started calling skis "Flexons", there was just nothing left. Saying that they "fumbled" is like saying VW fumbled when they stopped production of Mexican "Beetles" in the lated 90's.

The Flexon was such a small market segment, it was not enough for a small company like Raichle to put all of their eggs in it's basket any more. Dalbello is a much larger MASS boot builder that they can make the Krypton and not have its future depend on its success. I know there are people who were/are in Flexons that won't convert to Kryptons for various reasons, but after skiing both boots, it is thier loss.

The Thermoflex liner is another great Raichle product that they couldn't sell. Getting people to beleive that they could buy a liner/boot that they couldn't even try on was a huge task.

Sorry, Glen for this huge thread drift, but your namesake would understand. Vlad, if you want to continue this conversation, start a fresh thread and we can get some of the other Flexon Lovers involved.
post #40 of 53
hear here! they can take my flexons when charlton heston pries my cold, dead fingers form them
glen, get a real screen name that doesn't shoplift that of a ski phenomenon
*** I have as much problem hijacking this guy's thread as he has with hijacking the name of a great modern skier with whom i've put in some really fun snowboard turns.
clearly, the success of the dalbello krypton lies in dalbello's R&D decision to get their input form the keystone state for product testing. what do those worldcup athletes in the Alps know, anyway?
incidentally, when you consider bill johnson's enigmatic success on the flexon, and that of many of CH's top DHers, it becomes evident that raichle, with the correct marketing, could have made the flexon amuch more successful product into this century. they product simply suffered substandard marketing, much like the stockli ski and the hooger snowboard (although the latter was austrian).
the swiss aren't as bright with marketing as they are with product development.
hell, look at swissair.....who? same dynamic, same fumble.
crossair will never make it across to our neck of the woods, either.
post #41 of 53
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Originally Posted by GlenPlake
do you know binding mount distance?

GP, those Olin DSNTs are mounted for a 326mm boot sole length right now. They would need little or no tweak for your 325mm boots (but I would definitely re-check the forward pressure once you dial in the DIN, which is easy on the Markers).

Here are some pics:

http://members.cox.net/harmony.hunter/IMG_1277-01.jpg
http://members.cox.net/harmony.hunter/IMG_1278-01.jpg
http://members.cox.net/harmony.hunter/IMG_1279-01.jpg
http://members.cox.net/harmony.hunter/IMG_1280-01.jpg
http://members.cox.net/harmony.hunter/IMG_1281-01.jpg

These skis have a bit more sidecut than old-school straight skis (you can see that in the photo of the tail above), but they are long and the sidecut ratios are much less dramatic than modern shape skis. So they ski like long boards but will carve well when you put them on edge.

Craig
post #42 of 53
Quote:
Originally Posted by vlad
hear here! they can take my flexons when charlton heston pries my cold, dead fingers form them
glen, get a real screen name that doesn't shoplift that of a ski phenomenon
*** I have as much problem hijacking this guy's thread as he has with hijacking the name of a great modern skier with whom i've put in some really fun snowboard turns.
clearly, the success of the dalbello krypton lies in dalbello's R&D decision to get their input form the keystone state for product testing. what do those worldcup athletes in the Alps know, anyway?
incidentally, when you consider bill johnson's enigmatic success on the flexon, and that of many of CH's top DHers, it becomes evident that raichle, with the correct marketing, could have made the flexon amuch more successful product into this century. they product simply suffered substandard marketing, much like the stockli ski and the hooger snowboard (although the latter was austrian).
the swiss aren't as bright with marketing as they are with product development.
hell, look at swissair.....who? same dynamic, same fumble.
crossair will never make it across to our neck of the woods, either.
heh, i didn't even start this thread... jack it like a 16 year old before junior prom if you feel so inclined. And when Glen R. Plake frequents this board, i'll be more than happy to let him borrow my username. Also, let me warm the sports fans out there that wearing your favorite player's jersey might mislead others into thinking that you are, in fact, that player. :

Now back to the thread jacking!!! Keep it rocking, boys... don't disappoint!
post #43 of 53
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Originally Posted by skier219
GP, those Olin DSNTs are mounted for a 326mm boot sole length right now. They would need little or no tweak for your 325mm boots (but I would definitely re-check the forward pressure once you dial in the DIN, which is easy on the Markers).

Here are some pics:

http://members.cox.net/harmony.hunter/IMG_1277-01.jpg
http://members.cox.net/harmony.hunter/IMG_1278-01.jpg
http://members.cox.net/harmony.hunter/IMG_1279-01.jpg
http://members.cox.net/harmony.hunter/IMG_1280-01.jpg
http://members.cox.net/harmony.hunter/IMG_1281-01.jpg

These skis have a bit more sidecut than old-school straight skis (you can see that in the photo of the tail above), but they are long and the sidecut ratios are much less dramatic than modern shape skis. So they ski like long boards but will carve well when you put them on edge.

Craig
those skis remind me of the k2 4s i have. i skied a pair of 198cm 4s and they were too bulky to have any fun with... especially in the moguls. Also, from my experience, those old marker bindings are trouble.
post #44 of 53
glen-
ALWAYS a pleasure too come across someone who can deflect a good ballbusting right back at the buster....
like i said, you look eerily familiar to a cat who instructed in jersey....
..now, back to the prom
post #45 of 53
Quote:
Originally Posted by GlenPlake
those skis remind me of the k2 4s i have. i skied a pair of 198cm 4s and they were too bulky to have any fun with... especially in the moguls. Also, from my experience, those old marker bindings are trouble.

Nah, the K2 "Four" series were true shape skis. Depending on which model/flavor you had, it may also have been an intermediate ski. The DSNT and Merlin skis were all-mtn expert skis (though, some of the Merlin series did sprout shape-ski sidecuts in later years). Some of the older Marker bindings may have had probs, but these M44 are from 1998 and I haven't heard of any issues with them.

Craig
post #46 of 53

The Head WC Slalom Ti's are gone.

Well, Glen, my offer of free (less shipping) skis has expired.

It didn't sound like you were too interested, and another Bear pm'd me asking for the same deal. I figured 24 hours was enough for you to decide if you wanted to take me up on the deal.

Those skis are now promised to someone else. You wouldn't have liked them anyway. They abhor moguls (because I trained them well).

Good luck in your search.
post #47 of 53
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Originally Posted by Bob Peters
Well, Glen, my offer of free (less shipping) skis has expired.

It didn't sound like you were too interested, and another Bear pm'd me asking for the same deal. I figured 24 hours was enough for you to decide if you wanted to take me up on the deal.

Those skis are now promised to someone else. You wouldn't have liked them anyway. They abhor moguls (because I trained them well).

Good luck in your search.
Right on brother, i think someone else would be better fit for such a righteous slalom ski. I did very much appreciate the great offer though. btw... how is the Hole doing this tram-finale season?
post #48 of 53
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Originally Posted by GlenPlake
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btw... how is the Hole doing this tram-finale season?
We're doing "okay".

If we've had a better season in the last 25 years, nobody can remember it.

It's been, ummm, good.
post #49 of 53
anyone else have some offers? i only have a month left until winter park...

gp
post #50 of 53
Thread Starter 

Do tell?

If you could have ANY skis you wanted, what would they be? Maybe someone will treat you like a Make a Wish Foundation kid....
post #51 of 53
Thread Starter 
P.S. you may want to post a picture of yourself looking very ill. Come on, we know you're ho enough.
post #52 of 53
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Originally Posted by MisterK
P.S. you may want to post a picture of yourself looking very ill.
Let's not encourage him... plus he already did post some ill-looking pictures, as well as some ill-looking video in another thread.

I have a pair of P30 RS's at home (180cm) that might fit your bill. They are shaped, but not too shaped, and are so old they can't possibly be very stiff anymore (180cm). By the way Glen, I think you're looking way too long for a bump ski. A majority of your bump skiing problems stem from your skis being a little unmanagable. Even if you stuck with something semi stright and shorter you would be better off (possibly why you don't like your K2 4's - 198cm?).

Later

GREG
post #53 of 53
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Originally Posted by HeluvaSkier
Let's not encourage him... plus he already did post some ill-looking pictures, as well as some ill-looking video in another thread.

I have a pair of P30 RS's at home (180cm) that might fit your bill. They are shaped, but not too shaped, and are so old they can't possibly be very stiff anymore (180cm). By the way Glen, I think you're looking way too long for a bump ski. A majority of your bump skiing problems stem from your skis being a little unmanagable. Even if you stuck with something semi stright and shorter you would be better off (possibly why you don't like your K2 4's - 198cm?).

Later

GREG
i can agree on the length issue, but i think it also depends on the ski type. those 195cm Kastles i used were definitely much easier to ski bumps on than my 188cm Fours. The 198cm Fours i mentioned were just something i tried for fun... they are substantially more ski than i would like to have.

Do you have any pics of the P30 RSs?
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