Originally Posted by uncle crud
the Gore Tex is a middle layer that sits behind the outer shell (what's pilling) and outside the inner liner. the outer shell can pill away, it won't affect the Gore Tex.
beyond that, "looks like complete crap"? man, if you're a runway model, that MIGHT be important (although I question the value of runway models in the first place), but what are you talking about?
The North Face is a "fashion" brand not a true performance brand. you are getting what you paid for.
took the words outta my mouth. goretex is never the top layer...it's actually like white saran-wrap looking stuff that's used as a laminate.
modern North face is NOT what it was in the 70s and 80s, when the stuff was actualluy manufactured in Berkeley.
I used to ride for them, and I wore only their mountain parka and mountain pant. with their sponsorship, they gave me only the predecessor to their modern disco-bondage homoerotica, their 1990 "Rage" line. can you say fudgepacker?
anyway, i promptly traded that sh*t out with a store in Tahoe City for some good ole' Mountain parkas and pants.....the marque has gone rapidly downhill since those halcyon days of scott schmidt and lowell hart wearing the early mountaineering north face gear.
much like snowboarding itself, north face clothing has been shanghaied by corporate amerikan pillow-biters whom fawn over their deep-pocketed, mirror-addicted poseur following.
ahh, snowsports in the 21st century......