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Vail vs Beaver Creek

post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 
I'm going to Breckenridge next month for a conference. I'm going with a friend who I skied Vail with last April. We are getting 3 out of 5 day passes that allow 1 day at Vail or Beaver Creek. I've never skied Beaver Creek and wonder if we should go there instead of Vail?

We will ski one of those on Thursday, Feb 16th. I love the size of Vail and the variety, but feel like I should try Beaver Creek since I never have.

Any thought's from y'all?
post #2 of 21
I was at Vail today...It was epic. Face shots galore...anyways I've skied the Beav probably 3 times and its fun on a powder day but its not vail at all. Stick to Vail
post #3 of 21
Hit the Beav! We were there today 10" rule in effect, Vail is nice (large) but will ski the Beav anyday over Vail, more steeps & less people. And the babes are Hotter (with bigger Trust Funds, if you know what I mean).
post #4 of 21
i'd take 1 day to ski bc, but bc has nothing like vails back bowls. bc has a lot to see+ski but nothing that brings real skiers back every year.
post #5 of 21
If it's a powder day, go to Vail. If it ain't, go to Beaver Creek. I think BC is pretty boring, but it's fun to explore if the other alternative is skiing tracked out, baked junk at Vail.
post #6 of 21
You didn't mention ability level and interest. Beaver Creek is much smaller area and does not have as much expert terrain as Vail. If there isn't fresh snow most of the black stuff is in the middle and gets pretty bumped up. And the groomers at BC can actually be more crowded than Vail on a weekend forcing you onto the limited range of bumped up expert runs. Of course if you are looking for the chi chi (trust fund?) factor then Beaver wins hand down, which is hard to believe if you've skied Vail.

In my book Beaver is a snooze cruise compared to the back bowls at Vail, If you can't find anything uncrowded to keep you amused in the back bowls you are just not looking. And if there is powder stay at Vail, get into the back bowls by 9 am, pack a lunch for Bell's camp in your hydration pack and don't look back.

If I were staying a week I might do BC one day. But if you are looking for variety then I'd do Copper or A basin before I'd do Beaver anyday. You know the more I think about it, I might do Ski Cooper or Loveland before I'd do Beaver. But then I am not a very chi chi kind of guy.

Just my 2c.
post #7 of 21
BC doesn't have as much expert terrain as Vail because BC doesn't have as much terrain total. There are plenty of good steeps at BC, you just have to know where to look. Vail gets tracked out pretty quickly too- at BC the powder lasts for days. My personal pick would be BC hands down, but I'm not a big fan of Vail for reasons other than the terrain.
post #8 of 21
SKi Abasin!

Anyways Blue Ski Basin usually has great snow even on non powder days...Just haven't been real impressed with the Beav...I think they are having the worst year our of the front range so far
post #9 of 21
I think the answer to your question really depends on whether you want to ski on-piste of off. I just returned from BC (this last Saturday) and the skiing was excellent. While BC is definitely smaller than Vail, it contains plenty of blues, blacks, bumps, etc. to keep you busy for a day. If you prefer to ski primarily off-piste, I would recommend Vail for variety.
post #10 of 21
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Originally Posted by boredtoo
I think the answer to your question really depends on whether you want to ski on-piste of off. I just returned from BC (this last Saturday) and the skiing was excellent. While BC is definitely smaller than Vail, it contains plenty of blues, blacks, bumps, etc. to keep you busy for a day. If you prefer to ski primarily off-piste, I would recommend Vail for variety.
Agree. The Beav can be crowdless, which is nice, and there are some good, steep lines. They do have a tendency to all be moguled, though. For sheer variety and wide open views, it's Vail all the way for me.

(And I am a little weirded-out by all of the escalators at the Beav. They might be a plus for some, getting to the potty in ski boots, etc. But I find them just plain weird.)

Mollmeister
post #11 of 21
If you haven't skied Beaver Cr. you should. I discovered it for the first time a couple years ago. Having skied Colorado since 1980 and never been there, I found it a real treat. Plenty of steep runs and mogul runs with nobody on them at all. Even on a powder day.

Do Ilike it better than Vail? No, But it's still worth a day or two of a Vacation.
post #12 of 21
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Originally Posted by mollmeister
(And I am a little weirded-out by all of the escalators at the Beav. They might be a plus for some, getting to the potty in ski boots, etc. But I find them just plain weird.)

Mollmeister
there is one escalator at the Beav meant for skiers and it takes you from the lower level of the village to another flight of stairs in front of the Centennial lift by the ski school entrance; If you don't like the stairs, You can walk up the 75 or so steps if you are too weirded-out. Interestingly,locals and tourists alike choose the escalator. Not sure what bathroom you are going to from Centennial, there are much closer toilets than going down into the village??? Have you been there?

The Beav offers a lot if you know where to find it. It's limited due to it's size but go mid-week and you will find it near empty. There is a ton of snow up there.
post #13 of 21
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Originally Posted by Harry Dunn
My personal pick would be BC hands down, but I'm not a big fan of Vail for reasons other than the terrain.
Ditto. 100%.

L
post #14 of 21
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Originally Posted by Finndog
there is one escalator at the Beav meant for skiers and it takes you from the lower level of the village to another flight of stairs in front of the Centennial lift by the ski school entrance; If you don't like the stairs, You can walk up the 75 or so steps if you are too weirded-out. Interestingly,locals and tourists alike choose the escalator. Not sure what bathroom you are going to from Centennial, there are much closer toilets than going down into the village??? Have you been there?

The Beav offers a lot if you know where to find it. It's limited due to it's size but go mid-week and you will find it near empty. There is a ton of snow up there.
This was intended as humor, not as a slam on anyone's favorite resort. Humor. People seem to be finding this a little challenging on the boards of late. I am all for a good laugh. Ha ha ha ha.

I just find escalators at a resort a little stange (and funny), reared as I was on rope tows and ice in the Midwest. 11 years in the west skiing with people in Bogner suits hasn't made an escalator-fed entrance to a ski hill any more *normal* for me. I just find the image of people in Bogner and ski boots riding an escalator giggle-inducing. And yes, some people ride multiple escalators all the way up from the drop-off circle down by the Vilar Center, or ride down to use the public restroom near the ice rink.

Come on, everybody. Laugh a little. And I didn't say I hated The Beav, either. I said it can be empty (which is awesome) and there are some good steeps, although they tend to get bumpy. It's a great hill. I just personally would pick Vail if there's only one day to play with, as Vail is so extraordinary in its breadth and variety.

Skiing is good and should make people happy!
Mollmeister
post #15 of 21
Thread Starter 
Thanks for all the info/advice/opinions. I need to discuss it with my buddy. We had a great time at Vail last year and I'd love to show him the Back Bowls that had already closed when we were there. But, I think we'll just decide based on the conditions when we get out there on the 15th. Either one is going to be better than a day at the office, that's for sure!
post #16 of 21
Just wanted to remind everyone that Seidelh is staying a Breck on a three day pass (presumably for Breck, Keystone and A-basin) with one day only at Vail or BC. I would maybe do Breck two days and A-basin one under the circumstances, especially if he has never been to A-basin. If it's a choice between doing Vail and doing BC one day, especially if its a powder day, I would definitely head for the back bowls at Vail. And again, a lot of this depnds on whether he is a black and blue kind of guy and how well his friend skis. If they like blue groomers then either Vail or Beaver could be their cup of tea.

Again, just my 2c.
post #17 of 21
Thread Starter 
I did forget to add in my earlier post that I love the Back Bowls at Vail and am comfotable on all the blue runs and some of the black runs (speaking for the entire mountain). When we made a wrong turn last spring and ended up in The Slot, I had a great time working hard. My friend was able to do it, but he wasn't happy. He didn't mind Poppyfields, but liked the front side of the mountain better. He didn't really explore as much of Blue Sky Basin as I did and Game Creek Bowl was already closed.

Interestingly, A Basin was the second place I was ever on skis (about 20 years ago) and I haven't been back. Needless to say, I would be interested in getting back there and exploring the mountain, now that I actually know how to ski. Hmmm... too many choices for such a short trip.

Since, I'm at a conference at Breck that meets from 7a-9a and 4p-6p, we have to ski 2 days there, but were thinking of doing one night at Keystone also.

Also, the conference is at Beaver Run and we are staying at Trails End (the hotel was sold out). On the map they look pretty close together, but is that walking distance or should I drive up the hill in the morning? I may or may not be carrying my skis and boots with me.
post #18 of 21
What Lars said. Don't go over to Bachelor Gulch area to ski though. We have skiing as challenging in the MidAtlantic as what's over there.

Great realestate development , mediocre skiing by Colorado standards.
post #19 of 21
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Originally Posted by seidelhd
I did forget to add in my earlier post that I love the Back Bowls at Vail and am comfotable on all the blue runs and some of the black runs (speaking for the entire mountain). When we made a wrong turn last spring and ended up in The Slot, I had a great time working hard. My friend was able to do it, but he wasn't happy. He didn't mind Poppyfields, but liked the front side of the mountain better. He didn't really explore as much of Blue Sky Basin as I did and Game Creek Bowl was already closed.

Interestingly, A Basin was the second place I was ever on skis (about 20 years ago) and I haven't been back. Needless to say, I would be interested in getting back there and exploring the mountain, now that I actually know how to ski. Hmmm... too many choices for such a short trip.

Since, I'm at a conference at Breck that meets from 7a-9a and 4p-6p, we have to ski 2 days there, but were thinking of doing one night at Keystone also.

Also, the conference is at Beaver Run and we are staying at Trails End (the hotel was sold out). On the map they look pretty close together, but is that walking distance or should I drive up the hill in the morning? I may or may not be carrying my skis and boots with me.
Yes, walking distance. Be warned though, it's an uphill walk and if you're struggling with the altitude it can be tiring. I've stayed at Trail's End many, many times, so know it well. BTW, the Quicksilver lift is out the back door.
Enjoy!!!
C.B.
post #20 of 21

Free Drinks at BC

Ski wise BC is no Vail, but they were giving away free drinks Friday night at the Celebrity Chef Cook Off in the Vilar Center..the locals were out in force snarfing up free beers and cosmos ... some times the chic chic factor can work in your favor
post #21 of 21
I love Beaver Creek, it's not all things to all people, but it's a lovely experience. We park at Arrowhead, I really enjoy the ski over through the valley of the mega log mansions to the BC base.

If your friend likes the front side of Vail (perfectly groomed cruisers) then I would say he would love Beaver Creek. Harrier is one of my all time favourite 'whoo hoo' runs.

Ditch the evening session of the conference and do the nightskiing at Keystone, that is a must.
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