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Video of Expert Instructors

post #1 of 22
Thread Starter 
In parallel with the thread on "Qualifications for MA" I for one would be much more interested in video of the expert instructors who post here. Examples of skiing on groomers, bumps, crud, and soft snow would tell me much more about someone than a list of their certifications.

Is it possible to start a Sticky Thread on this?
post #2 of 22
Certainly, if we have some video to post. I'll talk with David about this during the ESA. ...and I hope to have some of this level of skiing to post here following the Academy.
post #3 of 22
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Originally Posted by Si
In parallel with the thread on "Qualifications for MA" I for one would be much more interested in video of the expert instructors who post here. Examples of skiing on groomers, bumps, crud, and soft snow would tell me much more about someone than a list of their certifications.

Is it possible to start a Sticky Thread on this?
and in race courses Don't leave us guys who rail 'em out
post #4 of 22

yep

and

If it's free it's for me......

I love video!

signed,

mr visual learner esq

hrstrat57

ps, I am buying: Weems DVD when it comes out tho....can't wait for that one!!!!
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post #6 of 22
Good stuff....HH can turn em never been a doubt...

If that could be cleaned up and presented in a manner like the Italian demo team it would be awesome. Keep em coming.

Italians still winning....the video battle quality wise anyway. HH can ski tho...just a bit.

I wish HH and Lito would update breakthrough III.

I might buy it...tho I like free better.

and I still like Weems. A lot.
post #7 of 22
Hey Softy,
Harb doesn't post here. But I'll drag your link over to the PMTS thread for you.

Come on over guys, I have something to show you in the link that you might find quite interesting (read; comical)
post #8 of 22

Wedge Hammer

Ok, here we go: http://media.putfile.com/Verbier_2004_Skidemo-1

PS, not for picking apart..... just as a reference.
post #9 of 22
Si,

I see where you're going, but I don't see how somebody ability to turn the skis realates to their ability to see what other folks are doing while they are turning them.

L
post #10 of 22

nice play!

tdk6,

That is a nice professionally crafted video....

Well done! Added to my resources

Why did you undertake such a big project? I can only imagine how much work you put into it....must have been fun tho!!

Well done again.
post #11 of 22
Tdk, ditto, thanks for the video! Rip it up!
post #12 of 22
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Lonnie
Si,

I see where you're going, but I don't see how somebody ability to turn the skis realates to their ability to see what other folks are doing while they are turning them.

L
Well I think it does. I have had the pleasure of skiing with a few of the regulars here on Epic over the past few years. It is my impression that their analysis is usually influenced by how they ski themselves. Furthermore, I think that if someone is able to perform at a certain level and experience the resulting sensations, they are much more likely to properly assess another person's skiing doing the same things.
post #13 of 22
strangely, re Si's post (#12), I think that both Si and Lonnie are correct. Lonnie makes a good point that is an objective truth I think, but Si has reasons for thinking that high-level skiing informs the instructor or coach's ability to teach and diagnose. and I think both are correct.
post #14 of 22
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by tdk6
Ok, here we go: http://media.putfile.com/Verbier_2004_Skidemo-1

PS, not for picking apart..... just as a reference.
Thanks! I find that extremely helpful as a reference to better understand your comments.

One more thing I'd like is to see you ripping in the steeps as agressively as you can.
post #15 of 22
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Originally Posted by Si
One more thing I'd like is to see you ripping in the steeps as agressively as you can.
tdk6, show that slow motion clip on the windslab you put up awhile back. BTW, I enjoy your videos because they are always so politically correct and polite (thanking us for watching).

Later

GREG
post #16 of 22
Yep. I think we need to see videos from the ones instructing..just as we would expect our teacher to give a demo. If we can see them moving, and read their posts then we can perhaps better understand what they are trying to convey. However, its also true that a coach does not have to be able to ski as well as the student in order to coach effectively. I doubt many World Cup coaches can ski as well as their racer students. They are dealing with real hot athletes. I know a few race coaches that were solid skiers themselves, but definitely not what I would consider "hot" skiers. Usually they were a little older. Maybe they were hot when they were younger I dunno. But their teaching advice was spot on.

So it goes both ways.

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Originally Posted by uncle crud
strangely, re Si's post (#12), I think that both Si and Lonnie are correct. Lonnie makes a good point that is an objective truth I think, but Si has reasons for thinking that high-level skiing informs the instructor or coach's ability to teach and diagnose. and I think both are correct.
post #17 of 22
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Originally Posted by HeluvaSkier
tdk6, show that slow motion clip on the windslab you put up awhile back. BTW, I enjoy your videos because they are always so politically correct and polite (thanking us for watching).

Later

GREG
Sorry I have missed this request.... here you are:
http://media.putfile.com/Verbier_2004_4
Thanks for requesting .
post #18 of 22

battle with the slab visuals

Tdk6

Rippin'....just rippin'....notice in particular everyone else on the run sideslipping.....

Tdk6 = NICE
post #19 of 22
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Originally Posted by Si
Thanks! I find that extremely helpful as a reference to better understand your comments.

One more thing I'd like is to see you ripping in the steeps as agressively as you can.
You are wellcome. Yes, the ripping in steeps needs to be captured on video but usually then we just ripp and dont film. If everything turns out the way I have planned Im going to Verbier together with my cameraman (brother) in a week and we will make a some new filming.

BTW, my problem has allways been that Im too controlled. Thats why I have included some of those wobbly phases of my skiing in the videos to show the viewer something interesting. Glad you like it.
post #20 of 22
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Originally Posted by hrstrat57
Tdk6

Rippin'....just rippin'....notice in particular everyone else on the run sideslipping.....

Tdk6 = NICE
Thanks, look at this guy sideslipping on the same hill a couple of years earlier:
http://media.putfile.com/One-skier-down
post #21 of 22
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tdk6
You are wellcome. Yes, the ripping in steeps needs to be captured on video but usually then we just ripp and dont film. If everything turns out the way I have planned Im going to Verbier together with my cameraman (brother) in a week and we will make a some new filming.

BTW, my problem has allways been that Im too controlled. Thats why I have included some of those wobbly phases of my skiing in the videos to show the viewer something interesting. Glad you like it.
Tom, that's an interesting comment. One of the things I love most in watching others ski (or skiing with others) is to see them cut loose with both confidence and abandon (I'm not talking about recklessness here). Falling back into the comfort zone of an easily controlled mode is common for most skiers. However, I think that new levels of enlightenment and joy awaight those that can venture beyond that. Keep up with the great video (and other) posts. Watching something like this sure makes me want to join you there
post #22 of 22
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Originally Posted by Si
Tom, that's an interesting comment. One of the things I love most in watching others ski (or skiing with others) is to see them cut loose with both confidence and abandon (I'm not talking about recklessness here). Falling back into the comfort zone of an easily controlled mode is common for most skiers. However, I think that new levels of enlightenment and joy awaight those that can venture beyond that. Keep up with the great video (and other) posts. Watching something like this sure makes me want to join you there
Si, thank you very much for your kind words. Im out on the mountain to have a good time and I will film and give positive ma's for anyone asking for it. If you cannot join me there you have alredy joined me here . BTW, nice thread.... did you notise that the new sticky is a direct offspring of this thread? Thanks si and Greg.

Tom
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