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Maintaining Position While "Airing"

post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 
my ski tips tend to come back up at me when i grab some air; the steeper the drop the more likely i am to land on my tails. or my ass. (pretty amazing watching some rahlves video last night, how he keeps the skis parallel to the slope's pitch on HUGE airs.)

any movement i might take to inviting kickers? pull the feet back? scrunch the abs? push hands ahead?

help.
post #2 of 19
Approaching the kicker, "load" by bending the three leg's joints (ankles,knees,hips) then exactly at the take-off instan "release" upwards.
This way you should automagically:
-get more air
-stay more centered in the airborne phase
Probably you tend to land on your back b/c approaching the lauch you are afraid of the jump, and get unbalanced toward the rear.
post #3 of 19
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Nobody
Probably you tend to land on your back b/c approaching the lauch you are afraid of the jump, and get unbalanced toward the rear.
ain't no probably about it.
post #4 of 19
Then, by doing the little drill above, you should forget about the "fear" by keping you brain locked onto something else to do.
post #5 of 19
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Originally Posted by ryan
my ski tips tend to come back up at me when i grab some air; the steeper the drop the more likely i am to land on my tails. or my ass. (pretty amazing watching some rahlves video last night, how he keeps the skis parallel to the slope's pitch on HUGE airs.)

any movement i might take to inviting kickers? pull the feet back? scrunch the abs? push hands ahead?

help.
yer natch rxn, just need to unlearn it. keep the skis parallel to the slope even when in the air, unless you have some interest in doing an aerial move of some kind.

in other words, I agree with Matteo:

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Probably you tend to land on your back b/c approaching the lauch you are afraid of the jump, and get unbalanced toward the rear.
post #6 of 19
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by uncle crud
unless you have some interest in doing an aerial move of some kind.
about none.
post #7 of 19
Pick a spot on the horizon that's about at eye level and concentrate on it while popping. You'll pop towards that spot, and if it's about at eye level, it'll keep you pretty well centered.


Keep it steezy.
post #8 of 19
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Originally Posted by ryan
about none.
that's what I thought, I'm about as daring as a rock when I'm in the air. airplane turns feel like 100 feet of flying.
post #9 of 19
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Takecontrol618
Keep it steezy.
always.
post #10 of 19
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Originally Posted by ryan
about none.
I'm not much of a jumper either, but I do play some in the terrain park. I find it actually helps to do some kind of small trick. Even if its just pulling up your knees a little, or doing a small spread eagle, it gives you something to concentrate on. I tend to land a lot smoother, and not just fall out of the air like a brick.
post #11 of 19
Thread Starter 
actually, the halfpipe lures me like a magnet. i'm getting over the self-consciousness of dropping in. i am not smooooov in there but i always come out smiling. good idea, too.

thanks everyone.
post #12 of 19
When I'm "airing" I never have trouble maintaining position unless I'm going for really big "air." I do a lot of aductor/abductor hip flexor work and also concentrate on hammies and glutes...so keeping one cheek up off the chair seat isn't a lot of trouble unless, like I said...I'm going for really big "air."
post #13 of 19
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Originally Posted by jstraw
When I'm "airing" I never have trouble maintaining position unless I'm going for really big "air." I do a lot of aductor/abductor him flexor work and also concentrate on hammies and glutes...so keeping one cheek up off the chair seat isn't a lot of trouble unless, like I said...I'm going for really big "air."
Is this a solo event or do your chair mates participate in the "big air" competition?
post #14 of 19
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Originally Posted by Takecontrol618
Pick a spot on the horizon that's about at eye level and concentrate on it while popping. You'll pop towards that spot, and if it's about at eye level, it'll keep you pretty well centered.
Nothing personal, but NO. Your eyes should be downhill, looking toward your landing spot.

I think your problem comes from a failure to equalize the compression that comes from the grade of the jump. In other words, your "pop" is too weak. And your weight should be forward.

RatherPlay... has some good advice. A simple move or trick can help stabilize you in the air- especially if there's not much speed involved or if it's a particularly long drop.
Make sure your move suits the length of the drop - you want to finish your move just in time to prepare for landing.
You don't want to make a move, finish it, and still have half the drop to go - you'll likely end up out-of-balance that way.
post #15 of 19
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Originally Posted by OldSchool
Nothing personal, but NO. Your eyes should be downhill, looking toward your landing spot.

I think your problem comes from a failure to equalize the compression that comes from the grade of the jump. In other words, your "pop" is too weak. And your weight should be forward.

RatherPlay... has some good advice. A simple move or trick can help stabilize you in the air- especially if there's not much speed involved or if it's a particularly long drop.
Make sure your move suits the length of the drop - you want to finish your move just in time to prepare for landing.
You don't want to make a move, finish it, and still have half the drop to go - you'll likely end up out-of-balance that way.
I'm talking about during the actual pop that you need to keep your eyes focused at the horizon; if you're looking down at the landing while you're still on the take-off you're going to land way forward and pretty much crush yourself. While in the air, yes, watch your landing.
post #16 of 19
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Originally Posted by Takecontrol618
I'm talking about during the actual pop that you need to keep your eyes focused at the horizon; if you're looking down at the landing while you're still on the take-off you're going to land way forward and pretty much crush yourself. While in the air, yes, watch your landing.
Oh, I see. I'd never thought about it like that. I have no idea where my eyes are at moment of the pop.
I'd think that in most instances you can't see the landing area until you're on or leaving the jump, so yes - in the air, watch the landing.
post #17 of 19
Try concentrating on bringing your knees up in the air (and putting them back down for landing). You can try a simple grab such as a safety (grab side of outside ski by boot) to keep your hands from rolling down the windows. I find being compact in the air makes for smoother landings as well.
post #18 of 19
Hey Ryan,

Do you by chance employ a lifting motion of your arms (and upper body extension) on the jump (like I have a tendency to)? If so, take them out of the formula. This certainly made a huge difference for me.
post #19 of 19
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Originally Posted by ryan
my ski tips tend to come back up at me when i grab some air; the steeper the drop the more likely i am to land on my tails. or my ass. (pretty amazing watching some rahlves video last night, how he keeps the skis parallel to the slope's pitch on HUGE airs.)

any movement i might take to inviting kickers? pull the feet back? scrunch the abs? push hands ahead?

help.
If you are going off a roll in the hill, not a kicker in the park, try pre jumping the lip. Pre jump the same way you'd just hop if you were skiing on even terrain. As you go over the lip, look for the landing and let your body align with the pitch of the hill so that you are perpendicular to it.
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