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Lost a partner, need advice!

post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 
I am taking the family skiing in Feb., however the Doc. just informed my wife that she should not ski (bulging disc in her back).

She has a brand new pair of skis, which my daughter could ski, but she (my daughter) is still renting boots, since her feet are still growing.

I'll get to the point.
Last season, my son (also rents boots) wanted to try my skis out the day I was sick, so he walked over to the rental shop & asked to have the bindings adjusted for his rental boots.
The shop said that the skis/bindings (since they didn't belong to the shop) would have to be tested?
Overnight!

I know someone claify this for me.

Sorry for the long thread

Ray
post #2 of 16
This thread doesen't make sense to me. What exactly is the problem?
post #3 of 16
I'll take a stab at it.

The question, if I may rephrase, is why would a shop require an overnight adjustment on skis that the user owns when renting boots.

Rental bindings are designed for quick adjustment, consumer bindings are not. The shop will require time and charge real money to adjust a consumer binding, expect this.

I would buy boots for the kids. This will be more cost effective than renting boots and adjusting your ski to the rental boot.

Cheers,

Michael
post #4 of 16
A lot of ski shops offer a "trade in" arrangement for children's boots and other equipment. Most of these deals work on the principal that you pay X number of dollars for, say, the boots. When the child outgrows the boots, you take them back and get boots that cost X dollars plus some. They credit you for the X dollars and you only pay the plus some. There are places that make this guaranteed credit all the way to adulthood.
post #5 of 16
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by deltat
This thread doesen't make sense to me. What exactly is the problem?
Sorry!

barettscv said it, I just wasn't sure what the big deal was when matching rental boots to consumer bindings.

Thanks Kneale

I was not aware that such an exchange was offered by some shops. I'll look into it while in SLC next month.

PS, I may have to print this page.
If deltat had trouble with my grammar, the shop may be totally confused by my cajun.

Thanks again.
post #6 of 16
Quote:
Originally Posted by rayl1964
I am taking the family skiing in Feb., however the Doc. just informed my wife that she should not ski (bulging disc in her back).

She has a brand new pair of skis, which my daughter could ski, but she (my daughter) is still renting boots, since her feet are still growing.

I'll get to the point.
Last season, my son (also rents boots) wanted to try my skis out the day I was sick, so he walked over to the rental shop & asked to have the bindings adjusted for his rental boots.
The shop said that the skis/bindings (since they didn't belong to the shop) would have to be tested?
Overnight!

I know someone claify this for me.

Sorry for the long thread

Ray
First, let me agree with you, that you took your sweet time getting to the point. What was all the other irrelevant discussion about? Reminds me of my... uh, never mind!

My advice is to get a new wife. One with the same size feet... maybe a little thinner and definitely a lot younger. You will probably get your monies worth out of the new wife, including the money wasted on her skis.

Sincerely,
Concerned Forum Member
post #7 of 16
When a shop adjusts your bindings they have a level of responsibility to the accuracy of the binding settings and release tensions.
They will test your binding for it's release values and expected reliability.

This a test anyone should have if they buy used gear .
They must have been busy and didn't have the time or personnel to do it at a moments notice.Nothing unusual.

Yeah , it sounds simple to just switch and you could have done it yourself if you knew enough..But you can't blame a shop for acting responsible
post #8 of 16
Thread Starter 
Thanks Garry

Maybe I should have asked the moron in the previous post to make the adjustment!

Actually the shop in Utah made the adjustments. No problem.
post #9 of 16
Quote:
Originally Posted by rayl1964
Thanks Garry

Maybe I should have asked the moron in the previous post to make the adjustment!
A shop, under the perameters of the manufacturer is required to test a binding according to the particular person, height, weight, sole length and skier type. I will be more polite to answer that way than the way you replied.
post #10 of 16
Thread Starter 
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post #11 of 16
rayl1964, so sorry to hear about your wife's injury. Hopefully she will be able to join you on trips and find things that keep her engaged. I recommend that you consider mounting rental or very adjustible performance bindings, like RailFlex on your wife's skis (if already mounted, please reply what was put on). Adjustible length bindings can be very easily changed as your daughter's foot changes, or can be changed to let your wife ski when she recovers. Most ski shops will carry these type of bindings. They are economical and very easy to use and adjust. If you already have bindings mounted, how much difference is there between your wife's and daughter's foot size?

Release checks are often done by stores to check the binding against the DIN rating. There is normally a very small variance between DIN and the release check. You probably have never seen a high volume rental or demo shop perform torque release checks; but they do set the DIN based on boot size, skier weight and ability. For some reason, it seems most binding mounds do a torque release check to verify a specific mount releases at or near the DIN torque value.

Finally, consider buying boots for your son and daughter. There is a large used market for youth boots. You buy them, use them and resell as necessary, and your costs go down. Its really more convenient to own than rent; even if its only for a year. The equipment is generally higher quality and more suitable to helping your kids progress and enjoy skiing. Since you are in LA, you may need to check EBay. You may not get a perfect fit, but it will probably be better than most rentals.

BTW, glad to hear you and blandry know each other. Appreciate the message
post #12 of 16
Quote:
Originally Posted by rayl1964
She has a brand new pair of skis, which my daughter could ski, but she (my daughter) is still renting boots, since her feet are still growing.

I'll get to the point.
Last season, my son (also rents boots) wanted to try my skis out the day I was sick, so he walked over to the rental shop & asked to have the bindings adjusted for his rental boots.
The shop said that the skis/bindings (since they didn't belong to the shop) would have to be tested?
Overnight!
I know someone claify this for me.
Sorry for the long thread
Ray
The binding manufacturers have a very exact procedure that shops have to follow or they will not be covered by indemnification. Every boot and binding in the shop has to go through a release check at certain intervals. This ensures that all their equipment is compatible and when they do a boot/ski rental, they don't have to do a release check. There's 2 problems with putting rental boots with a customer's own ski. The first is that consumer bindings don't have the range of demo bindings, and if the rental boot is not close in size to the boot the binding was originally mounted for, the ski will need to be remounted. The second problem is the binding/ski will need to be release checked with special equipment, and that takes time. Some shops will flat out refuse to do it, and suggest putting the skis back in the car and renting skis. Some shops will do it.
post #13 of 16
Here is an example of some strategies used by other members to get boots for their kids. I was thinking that a sticky in the gear swap or family skiing forum might be good for getting members together to swap / buy /sell. What do you think?

Thread link
post #14 of 16
remarry a new improved wife
post #15 of 16
Thread Starter 
As Cirquerider alluded to at the end of his post, and before we are escorted away, I have to clarify something for the EPIC community. I do, unfortunately, know blandry.
Therefore, don't be alarmed by his sarcasm, week attacks, or bad taste.
Thank You
rayl64
post #16 of 16
Watch out then, rayl1964... he may be trolling for something... :
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