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Dolomite Pro Z 110 - Boot Review

post #1 of 35
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Male, advanced-intermediate eastern skier, looking for a higher performance, closer fitting boot to replace Rossignol Salto STS boots.

Skis: Elan S10 168 cm

Usual terrain: Groomed blues and blacks, typically hardpack. Modest bumps.

Height: 5'11'' (180 cm) Weight: 145 lbs (66 kg). Very slim feet and calves. Moderately high instep.

Footbeds are Superfeet fitted by a qualified bootfitter. Boots have also been planed to correct a 1 degree out of alignment stance. No other modifications have been made to the boots.

I place the powerstrap inside of the shell to improve shin fit and to increase the flexibility somewhat.

Review

I have no other experience with higher-performing boots, but compared to all other boots I've worn the Pro Z's are very precise and responsive. The flex is good for my light weight and non-aggressive style, and my skiing improved immediately. I've experienced none of the tendency of my other boots to continually loosen up throughout the day.

The forward lean is greater than I've experienced before, and I find that I'm now more balanced, with much less tendency to fall into the back seat. This more forward stance does require more of my thigh muscles, though.

The buckles all have micro adjusters, the powerstrap and stiffening bolts in the spine are designed for easy removal if desired. The boots have sufficient shell thickness for modification, if needed. Dual cuff alignment allows for a close fit between your lower leg and the boot if your legs aren't straight. Very good design, I think, and my impression is that the overall quality of the boots is very good.

The liners are thinner than those in the lower-end boots I've worn previously, but are quite comfortable and reasonably warm.

The boots were initially VERY HARD to put on and take off, primarily due to very stiff plastic in the throat of the boot that made the opening very narrow and difficult to expand. (Jeff Bergeron says that the Pro Z is known for being especially difficult in this regard.) But either they've softened up with use or my technic has improved and now I have no problem.

Overall, I'm very, very happy with the boots.

Notes on Fit

For those who may try these boots, especially anyone like me that doesn't have much experience with higher performance boots, please note that they were initially VERY SNUG in the shop and at the bootfitters, with some pressure on the ends of my toes. Both the bootfitter and the seller suggested that I NOT go up a shell size, and both predicted that as my heel settled into the heel pocket and the liner compressed that the fit would be good. They were absolutely correct.

Without that advice (and two previous experiences buying boots too big) I would NEVER have accepted the fit as it was in the shop. Now, after about 40 hours of skiing, they are practically perfect.
post #2 of 35
Great! Sounds like you found a winner.

I am also interested to try the Z series to see how they fit. I noticed that the 110 is not listed on the official website.
post #3 of 35
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Yes, I noticed that too when I was checking out different boots. I can't explain it.

My boots look just like the black version of the Pro Z shown on some of the boot feature pages on the website. The features of the 110 are generally the same as those shown for the 130.

SOMEWHERE I thought that I found web info on the 110, but now I can't remember!
post #4 of 35
nice review Curtis. and good move of confidence, sticking with the fitter's recommended size. many people don't believe that you need to fit for eventual post-packout sizing, not new-in-box sizing. good on you for sticking with the reco.
post #5 of 35
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Originally Posted by uncle crud
nice review Curtis. and good move of confidence, sticking with the fitter's recommended size. many people don't believe that you need to fit for eventual post-packout sizing, not new-in-box sizing. good on you for sticking with the reco.
Exactly. I always said that with consumer models, it is better to get the boot 2 sizes smaller.
post #6 of 35
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I spent more time shopping for boots (and selecting the shop from which to buy) than anything else that I've ever purchased, including houses and cars.

Others have said the same, but you really need to have confidence in your fitter when buying boots. I don't know how someone who isn't an expert could do it on their own, and most retailers (at least in my area) don't know enough to offer good advice.

Jeff Bergeron was also a big help. His advice on this forum kept me on the right track, I think, and gave me enough background to trust the fitter.
post #7 of 35
Did you get the dolomite 2 sizes smaller than shoe?
post #8 of 35
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Good question. The boot size is 8 1/2, and normally I would wear a size 10 shoe. But when the bootfitter measured my foot for the orthothics he said that I'm a 10 1/2.

Also, my arch is long relative to the length of my foot overall, so the orthothic was actually a size 11, trimmed to fit.

Boot sizing isn't simple.
post #9 of 35
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Originally Posted by Curtis
Good question. The boot size is 8 1/2, and normally I would wear a size 10 shoe. But when the bootfitter measured my foot for the orthothics he said that I'm a 10 1/2.

Also, my arch is long relative to the length of my foot overall, so the orthothic was actually a size 11, trimmed to fit.

Boot sizing isn't simple.
I agree that boot sizing is not simple.

So they are 2 sizes smaller. This is excellent IMO.
post #10 of 35
Thread Starter 
Yes. And from my limited experience, I'd have to agree that "shoe size - 2" is probably a very good place to start.
post #11 of 35
hi curtis

i sized down -3 and i think i will JUST be ok eventually
amazing boots........i am carving up a storm

get rid of the dolomite strap and get a booster strap

and visit a surefoot shop if you can someday to discuss various options

(no i don't work for them)
post #12 of 35
kudos to you curtis for calling yourself an 'advanced intermediate' and taking the plunge into a pr. of plugs!

i've been skiing for 48 yrs and i cannot believe how good these things are.

if you have the right skis, a passion, and maybe a good instructor, there should be good things in store for you
post #13 of 35
and yes, dolomite is an obscure company with a useless website

a friend told me "what do you expect - it's italian"
post #14 of 35
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Originally Posted by stelmar
and yes, dolomite is an obscure company with a useless website

a friend told me "what do you expect - it's italian"
this friend of yours used to own a Fiat or Lancia, I take it?
post #15 of 35
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by stelmar
hi curtis

i sized down -3 and i think i will JUST be ok eventually

amazing boots........i am carving up a storm

get rid of the dolomite strap and get a booster strap and visit a surefoot shop if you can someday to discuss various options

(no i don't work for them)
I'm leaving tomorrow for a three day skiing trip and I'm planning to pick up booster straps. Really looking forward to trying them out.

And I agree, great boots. I thought they may be too much for me, but now I think any good solid skier would really benefit from stepping up to a boot of this quality. Really worth the investment of time and money to get a good boot, properly fitted.
post #16 of 35
Quote:
Originally Posted by stelmar
and yes, dolomite is an obscure company with a useless website

a friend told me "what do you expect - it's italian"
I'm guessing your friend isn't Italian.:
post #17 of 35
it's not all bad - italians do food and vino very very nicely
post #18 of 35
I know this might sound nuts, but I'm thinking about buying a pair of these online. Found a new pair for $300. I'm 5'10", 150 with a size 10 foot. While I know there isn't any way to tell other than trying them on, do those with experience think I could pull off a 9, or 27.0? That is the available size.
post #19 of 35
What size do you wear in a Tecnica or Atomic shell?
post #20 of 35
Not sure about that. I live in Oklahoma City right now and there isn't much in the way of accessibility to gear.
post #21 of 35
What are you in now?

You might be able to get away with it if you don't have much big toe volume and your 4-5th toe are a LOT shorter than your big one.

Risky, though, and you may have an ebay special in the end.
post #22 of 35
Yeah, sounds kind of risky and I have some toe volume - they are long spindly guys. What about these guys saying you can potentially go down 2 sizes, though?
post #23 of 35
I did find some 28's now, they were hidden on the same site. While maybe not perfect, I wonder if that wouldn't be a better bet.
post #24 of 35
2 sizes from what is the question. 2 sizes down from a Tecnica Rival-level boot? I could see that. 2 sizes down from an Atomic Tri-Tech? Possibly. 2 sizes down from a Salomon Crossmax? Probably not, maybe 1. 2 sizes down from a Tecnica XT? Not.
post #25 of 35
I read it that they were going for 2 sizes down from foot size.
post #26 of 35
Hey thanks for your help, Comprex. I won't beat you up any further with theoreticals.
post #27 of 35
I think the prospects are good if you wear a 10 shoe, a 27 shell will be fine assuming you're feet are regular width and not wide and you don't have a high instep. I think you'll have enough length in the shell. I wear an 11 running shoe , usually buy a 10 street shoe and have a 26 shell Atomic boot which is a more voluminous boot than the Dolomite but I had enough length without doing any modifications to the shell. Plus the toe next to my "big toe" is significantly longer.
post #28 of 35
I talked to another boot technician who said 27 might be pushing it, so I went ahead and went with the 28. I figure even if they are a half size too big they will be miles ahead of my mid-nineties dolomites, and for $300 that isn't too bad. Thanks for the advice.
post #29 of 35
I wear a size 11 Nike and have the Pro Z 130 in a 311mm shell. I think thats a 26/26.5 shell (boot says 8.5). It required a little grinding at the toes. The 25 shell would have been too small without serious grinding.
post #30 of 35
I can't stand it any more....:

2 sizes down from shoe size? Based on what? Every shoe I try on is different. I generally wear a 10.5 or 11 shoe but have been as low as a 9.5 in Brooks running shoes. I had my foot shell fit at Green Mountain Orthotic Lab. The techs there agreed that the 28.5 Tecnica XT17 I scored for $55 was correct for my right foot. Unfortunately, my left foot is a full size smaller (27.5). I have worn the XT's for 10+ days and assume they are not going to pack out any more. My toes touch the end of the liner on my right foot and I have no lateral slop. There is no way in hell I could squeeze into a 26.5 (2 sizes smaller). Can't do it. No way. I tried. It wasn't discomfort, it was physics. All the grinding, stretching, punching in the world wasn't going to squeeze my Cinderella's step-sister foot into a 26.5 shell.

I'm hoping to find the XT's in 27.5 for my left foot this weekend at the Syracuse Ski Swap. That's where I found them last year. I'll wear 2 different sized boots and have to keep my skis straight....

The only way to know what size is correct is to get a competent shell fit. If anybody gives you any advice other than this, you're likely to be unhappy.
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