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Simple Waxing Question

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Went today to pick up skis from Mike de Santis over at Summit. I was talking with him about waxing and the best ways to do it and he told me to use a wax called Zoom (?) and instead of hot ironing it on, that it would be a lot better for me to simply take a roller looking object and kind of work it in. Benefits and drawbacks of doing so? How many people do this instead of or in combination with hot waxing? Sorry if this is a rehash, I just couldn't think of what to search for to find a thread on this. Thanks.
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Dominator Zoom

Ray's Way waxWHIZard
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Thanks.
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Dominator Zoom is the wax, I think Mike suggests the Graphite. Available from Tognar or other outfits.

The Wax Whizard is the device. It's been discussed a lot on epic. I have one, it works, I still like to hot wax though. I think Mike would rather we don't mess with our bases at all, thus the conservative approach of using the Wax Whizard. Hot waxing can damage the base if not done well.
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Originally Posted by comprex
Dominator Zoom

Ray's Way waxWHIZard
Damn, beat me by 2 minutes!
post #6 of 23
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Originally Posted by SkiMangoJazz
Dominator Zoom is the wax, I think Mike suggests the Graphite. Available from Tognar or other outfits.

The Wax Whizard is the device. It's been discussed a lot on epic. I have one, it works, I still like to hot wax though. I think Mike would rather we don't mess with our bases at all, thus the conservative approach of using the Wax Whizard. Hot waxing can damage the base if not done well.
That’s the impression I got. He's a pro and I'm not, so I rather just leave whatever he set. Anyone have a link to a good place to pick up some wax (it was the graphite one) and a tool? Also, there any instructions for it here on the board or on other sites?
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I did them one at a time so Comprex couldn't beat me to the link.
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Hydro Graphite Zoom the one to get? He said to use one with no/low-flour wax but I can't see the logic in it. I'd imagine that one with a high-flour content when used on conjunction with something like a FC1 would be a lot faster.
post #11 of 23
The Dominator Zoom Graphite (Hydro yes) is fine. You really don't need a flouro unless you're racing. And note that the regular zoom is a 400g size and the Hyper Zoom is 40g. I bought some. Tiny.
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Well the skis I'm using the wax for are my race skis. Basically ALL I do on them is racing, nothing else. The Zoom Graphite still good or there another type / brand I should be looking at?
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I'm not a racer, but go to the dominator website and read up on what they suggest. The hyperzoom seems good. race wax is expensive I'll warn you. There's a lot of wax, lots of brands.
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Are they're specific kinds of wax that are better for pressure application then others or will any wax work fine?
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Originally Posted by camhabib
Are they're specific kinds of wax that are better for pressure application then others or will any wax work fine?
I don't know really, and as I said, I still like to hot wax.
post #16 of 23
For good pricing on the Dominator wax, you can try
http://www.artechski.com
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Originally Posted by camhabib
Are they're specific kinds of wax that are better for pressure application then others or will any wax work fine?
In general the softer waxes will cork in (or the Ray's Way tool which I have not used) better than a harder wax. Most softer waxes are either warmer temperature or graphite based wax in my experience.
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A synthetic cork generates more heat (from friction) than a natural cork, and may help on harder waxes.
post #19 of 23
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Originally Posted by camhabib
Are they're specific kinds of wax that are better for pressure application then others or will any wax work fine?
I do not like Hertel for pressure application.
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http://www.proformskiing.com/ has good prices on Dominator waxes, too (and artech is great, too).
post #21 of 23
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Originally Posted by comprex
I do not like Hertel for pressure application.
OK. I got me some corks and Hertel Wax! It seems I've yet again, got some wrong stuff!!! Why do you not like Hertel for pressure application?
post #22 of 23
Hertel uses a harder Paraffin which is more durable and creates less friction but is harder to apply with pressure alone.Still, I have never had a problem getting a nice coat of Hertel with a cork.
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Originally Posted by nickitynac
Hertel uses a harder Paraffin which is more durable and creates less friction but is harder to apply with pressure alone.Still, I have never had a problem getting a nice coat of Hertel with a cork.
Thanks nikitynac! I think my ski bases may be saved!!
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